Dealing With ThePlanet Sales Staff Is Like A Trip To The Dentist
Apr 17, 2008
I've been pretty happy with my servers with theplanet/ev1servers for the past, err, 5 years. But the OSes were out of date and it seemed like I could stand to get some significantly improved hardware for what I'm paying now (or, comparable hardware for a lot less).
I put in a RFQ from ThePlanet to see what I could do as far as upgrading my current server, hoping for something a little better than buying a new server while the old one is up and moving everything over, and also hopefully avoiding re-paying a one-time fee I had for a secondary hard drive.
Now I have no problem whatsoever with the result -- that my only option is to buy a new server, they won't migrate my HDs, and they won't upgrade my current server, and they won't give me any kind of credit for the second hard drive or let me transfer it to a new server. I get where they're coming form, even though it might make sense to figure out something a little better for a customer of 5 years that's dropped about $25k over that time period.
The problem is their sales staff. I'm surprised that theplanet (at least theplanet I remember from when I signed up) would have sales people so apathetic and basically useless.
Getting information I requested in my initial ticket took back-and-forth with a sales rep over the span of over 24 hours (and I still haven't really gotten an answer on one part, about my secondary hard drive). Actually looking at the ticket now, the initial response was over 24 hours after I opened a ticket (and it was opened during working hours).
Heck, the first two responses didn't even include a price for the hardware he wanted me to buy, just if I wanted to proceed and buy it.
Figuring it beats waiting I did one of their instant chats and before answering my questions I was told to be sure to give the guy credit for the servers I order. In fact, him telling me his contact information and to choose him were the only complete sentences I got, and roughly 80% of the communication I received.
I haven't needed support on my server recently, so I can't speak to if this is the quality of their support department now. I don't think I'll be around to find out though.
(Executive summary: Hello SoftLayer!)
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May 19, 2008
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I would expect that my issue is forwarded to level 2-3 admins when level 1 staff can't provide a sound solution/fix. This is the case sometimes, but not always. Most importantly (and this occurred to me today) level 1 staff should never, in any form, have access to a customer's VPS without prior consent/approval. Maybe I'm coming off as a little paranoid here, but I'm not fond of the idea of inexperienced individuals going through my stuff. Limiting access to just level 2/3 admins can only mean good as far as security is concerned.
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(I was originally going to paste a screenshot of my last support ticket, but I now think it won't be neccassary as my post adequately conveys my concerns)
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Additional information about the those responsible for the hack attempts are as follows
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CustName: ----------------(hidden by me)
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StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 75075
Country: US
RegDate: 2005-08-27
Updated: 2005-08-27
Apparently this person was trying to use the dfind hacker tool to find vulnerabilities on my server. The IP address belongs to AT&T Yahoo; and I've already contacted them by email. I believe that subsequent hack attempts have originated from this IP, however, the IP address has been masked by the use of proxies. I think that this may be someone I know because the IP is only about an hours drive from me. I'm starting to suspect a disgruntled former client who has friends living where that IP's from.
Has anyone here had any similar experiences?
What do you think AT&T Yahoo's response will be?
Is there anything else I can do or should not do?
I am also considering reimaging my server because of system issues but I am concerned that would erase any information needed for investigative purposes. I have saved my log files, though, on a CD but I'm thinking that AT&T Yahoo or whoever investigates this needs the server as it is.
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I did not wish to continue with the Reseller account so i simply did not bother to pay the due RESELLER invoice, however i paid the VPS invoice, BUT my VPS account got banned and the reseller went on being active.
What sort of stupidness would you guys call this? Carelessness or slow at understanding? This kind of services can never be expected from a well known host.
I've liked their services, but i must say after this i am really disappointed.
Here's a screen to show things better :
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Is their pre-sales support usually this poor? Before contacting them I checked out their reputation on WHT and they looked like their product and support were top notch.
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May 17, 2009
I was on WHT when i saw the banner ad of highvelocity and landed on the specials page and saw Core2Quad server. I opened live chat as it said in the banner ad for free stuff and upgrades.
Dave from hivelocity came on chat and we started negotiating and after a while i was offered Core2Quad, 8GB, 750 GB, 500 GB, 1500 GB with 100 mbps etc. for $184. I said okay and asked him to send me the quote so i can buy it in evening or the next day as I had to get approval for the funds from the boss.
To my surprise I got the approval etc. for 3 months pre-pay but I did'nt get the quote from Dave which was prmoised to me by Dave in 1 hour after live chat session. I in evening went agaion on live chat and no response. After waiting alot on livechat i opened a support ticket and it has not been answered till now.
Today i again went on live chat and after 15-20 mins of waiting Ron came up with the following chat we had:
Quote:
Please wait for a site operator to respond.
All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
You are now chatting with 'Ron'
Tapan: where is Dave ?
Ron: Hello. How may I assist you?
Ron: Our sales representatives are unavailable at this hour. However, if you could provide me your requirements, along with your email address, your full name and phone number, I can have one of our sales representatives get in touch with you as soon as possible.
Tapan: i already had detailed talk with dave yesterday and he was going to send me a quote in 1 hour
Tapan: there's no quote
Tapan: no email
Tapan: i even opened a support ticket
Tapan: there has been no reply to it
Tapan: is this the top notch service dave was refering to ?
Ron: dave is away at the moment
Ron: May I know your full name please
Ron: also let me know if this email is good for you tapan@avissoftware.com
Ron: I will have dave to get back to you on this
Tapan: Tapan Bhanot
Tapan: tapan@avissoftware.com
Tapan: i am trying to contact him since yesterday
Ron: Thank you tapan
Ron: and we are sorry for the delay
Ron: do you know his email ?
Tapan: no
Ron: dave@hivelocity.net
Ron: you can send him an email
Tapan: ok
Tapan: are you sales also ?
Ron: I will also have him to get back to you on this
Ron: nah
Tapan: ok
Ron: I am from tech support
Tapan: ok
Tapan: ok thanks bye
Ron: Bye
By the looks of this you can imagine the High Level of Support Dave was telling me about. I opened the livechat for a sales staff and a tech support guy is answering the live chat. This is really good!
I've had server with LT, Sago etc. and nowhere I have seen such crap at pre-sale level. How would they expect customer to return to them when they are behaving like this at the first step ?
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We have been dealing exclusively with Dell, but are looking into HP as well now. How aggresive can they be in their pricing? At what price volume will they start to be very aggresive?
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GigeNet's servers is pretty cheap when you order high specs, and they support it, with great SLA and many other features.
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Aug 8, 2008
I have had a bad experience with a servepath sales rep, I wonder if the entire company acted in such ways as its really really bad and stupid way to do business.
2 days ago I wanted to subscribe a dedicated server. I looked around and found servepath and decided to go with them initially. Went through their online chat and the sales rep gave me a quotation after several questions from me. Took the sales rep more than 1 1/2 hour to give me the quotation. The sales rep said it took 3 days to get the server ready for me..which seemed long but I asked him to send me the quotation anyway. While I waited, I did more research on the company and looked for other potential companies.
It seems that there were lots of complaints about servepath's customer service, So I looked elsewhere and that's where I found SingleHop instead. I had some issues with the billing but the co-founder - Dan Ushman emailed me and assumed me that they don't charge until the order is processed (since it was not processed yet, they cancelled it and I made another order). It took them no more than 3 hours to get the server up and running! This was impressive compared to servepath's 3 days to get the server up and running.
All went well until the servepath sales rep emailed me asking why I haven't reply him on the quotation. I just told him that I signed with another company. He then replied:
I put those quotes together on the spot for you as you gave me your word you were going to sign that night. Do you consider that respectful business etitquete?
So I replied like this:
I understand your frustration, but I waited for almost 2 hours before I got the quote, I was in a hurry so I decided to sign up with another company and after doing more research. I believe its natural in business you may not necessarily get the business all the time, as a sales person you should know that.
He further replied:
When someone gives me their word – I believe them.
So I replied:
There was not at any point I promised to sign up with you. I did mention I chose the package and decided what I wanted but did NOT promise I wanted to sign up with you.
Apart from the reason that you sent in the quotation > 1 hour, you also mentioned the server could be ready within 3 days only. As I wanted the server fast, I decided to go with another hosting company who could (and DID IT) in less than 24 hours. I hope you understand this. I'm thankful for your time.
And he stopped replying my mail after that. From what you can see, this sales rep really has a bad attitude. I'm no sales person but if you give a quotation to someone, it does NOT mean you will get that sale. And even if the person DID promise you, that's not the right way to react. He should ask me instead why I didn't choose servepath and how to improve their package, etc so that they can serve pple better..and not shoot the customer..
So guys, don't ever deal with servepath, you will regret it. Take my word, go with SingleHop, they did an excellent job.
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