Shared Hosts Offers Php-opcode Caching
Jul 19, 2008
why so few shared hosting companies enable a php op-caching system on their system (xcache, apc, eaccelerator).
Is there some specific technical reason in place?
Usually I run my own servers, but it happens from time to time that you need a quality shared hosting in order to reccomend it to a friend, for a personal blog, a small website, maybe your own personal blog that you're not keen to host on your dedicated servers already used for big projects ...
Now, as everyone using php applications knows, software like xcache or eaccelerator gives a nice speed bost to page generation. I run xcache on all my servers and vps (mainly running vbullettin and wordpress) and never encountered any issue.
Installing one of those (eg. xcache) is a 5minutes procedure, and even for kiddie-hosting companies that won't know how to build php, the ability to compile eaccelerator is in the cpanel easy php build software, so you don't even need to know how to rebuild php to enable eaccelerator in cpanel.
Despite all these facts is quite impossible to find a decent webhoster with xcache or apc/eacc enabled ...
The only one claiming to have eaccelerator is medialayer : "# Zend Optimizer, IonCube, and eAccelerator" this is a quote from their website.
How come nobody else undertakes this step?
What I have been noticing is most premium shared-hosting provider I encountered run their server with a lot of free memory .. so why not impress the customer with blazing fast page generation times (wordpress footer displaying "page generated in 0.071 seconds" impresses also the non-technical savy customers) enabling such a simple feature ?
There should be something I am missing, for sure.
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Apr 21, 2009
know a hosting company with a plan or an option to have access to unlimited IP address?
Or at least near it, like new 20 IP's/month would be ok i think
No matter if its shared hosting, vps or dedicated, if you know a company that offers it,
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Mar 26, 2007
which webhosts offers "real" unlimited shared or dedicated hosting? alot of companies say unlimited but in their terms it says they'll suspend your account if you exceed reasonable use and they don't tell you what this is.
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Oct 6, 2009
Why don't all shared web hosts use litepspeed?
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Sep 5, 2008
Is it possible to get a rough description of the benefits of a VPS host over a shared host?
1) Support. Should support with a VPS host be better than my current shared provider? They offer live chat and a ticketing system. Tickets can take hours to get a response, live chat minutes but often there are no support operaters to answer the question.
2) Uptime. Will uptime be improved upon? My current host tends to range from 97%-99% in a month. Importantly will it suffer from soft outages where parts of the account are down (such as MySQL or http)?
3) Traffic. What levels of traffic will base VPS packages handle? Will a few semi active forums (say max 20 users on 3 forums) be manageable alongside several PHP/MySQL galleries and several hundred normal PHP pages?
4) Load. Does the load usage of other customers on the same server effect your account in the same way it does in a shared environment? Can one user bog down the entire server for everyone else?
5) Management. How much control is given to a user in managed VPS environment. Can you restart OS yourself (and do things like edit the firewall blocks)? Do you have to keep the OS (Linux in my case) and things like Apache and PHP up to date yourself or is that done for you.
6) Usage Policies. Are the usage policies in place in a VPS environment (limiting the amount of CPU process and memory you can use). If yes are they higher than in a shared environment.
Is it possible to get a little more on a few of the hosts I've looked at (if possible I'd like to be below the $50 a month mark).
JaguarPC ($20 / $40)
WiredTree ($50)
LiquidHost ($60)
Is it a case of picking any of these and getting a similar support and hosting service?
WiredTree seems to offer a decent compromise of price against value. Given that my site is still pretty small at the moment, would the smallest JaguarPC package be a better fit (so I'm not spending money for specs I'm not using).
Unfortunately disk space is a fairly big factor as the site uses quite a few image and small video files (I'm using something like 2GB at the moment but this would increase fairly rapidly over time). Does that mean a shared host is better suited for my needs?
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Jan 20, 2008
This thread [url] is a perfect example of how some shared web hosts act to sell. This one might not be posted from someone who plays for the web host but it illustrates a shameless promotional model.
You just need to hire 10 dudes to give them a blog or small web site and "some orders" to post threads about your business. They get paid per result (paid per sale made) Nothing wrong if those guys go to promote in "advertising and requests" sections. But they come to flood sections where we're comming to meet each other, to talk and share some knowledge and information.
Forums like SitePoint were the first quality social networks. They came out many years before anyone knew what Web 2.0 was? Let's not allow good communities to be conquered by adv posts.
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May 22, 2009
Not sure if there was similar thread earlier. But just want to find out hosts which offer shared hosting and have their own DCs. The ones I know are:
Pair
FutrueQuest
LiquidWeb
HE
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Sep 2, 2008
I'm with one of the big shared hosts. Support is patchy at best, which isn't a problem until you require help at which point it's agonising as you have to wait an age to get an unsatisfactory response.
At the moment the server I'm on is suffering from consistent outages (it's been up and down over the last few days). Support has been hard to get hold of at times (right now my site is completely unacceptable for me and there's no-one tending the live support chat - which is the only chance of getting a prompt response).
My question is should I be actively looking to improve my situation (it's amazingly frustrating to spend the best part of a day doing small updates, which because of instability, take hours instead of minutes) or should I just wait until it blows over (to be fair server issues tend to be fairly infrequent, but they do flair up every so often). I can't really afford to pay that much more than I am (say $20-$50 a month max) so am I stuck with shared hosting or is there anyway to pay a little more (my current package costs around $10 a month) to get better support and stability?
After a initial look around would something like MediaTemples GS or the low end MediaTemples dedicated virtual service be suitable? The pages do have moderate database use (a few forums and galleries) and use around 50GB a month bandwidth (which would climb slowly in future months)?
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Aug 23, 2008
This is my first time with shared hosting and I went with hostgator because they are well known. Well, my site is getting decent traffic but well within my disk space and data transfer allotment, and I get this email saying my site has been suspended and my site is inaccessible.
Dear customer,
Due to an excessive amount of Apache requests on our gatorXXX server we have been forced to suspend the directory /home/username/public_html/sitename at this time as all other users on the server are experiencing issues due to this :
...http requests list...
Please let us know when you're ready to investigate and address this issue so we can work with you further. Thanks.
Sincerely,
Ford Merrill
Systems Administrator Supervisor
HostGator.com LLC
Is this what most shared hosts do? Just suspend your account once your site starts getting traffic?
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Oct 7, 2008
Im a webdesigner so when looking for hosting i try to find one that is simple to manage, hardware powerful, lots of ready to install scripts and a beautiful webmail like Atmail or Zimbra.
So im looking for a powerful / quality high end "shared" hosting package.
Until now i have looked at:
- Mediatemple
(as @mail, exelent support but slow in Europe)
- Mosso
(is always good to be powered by rackspace but i think that the cloud hosting concept is still unsstable. Any experience?
- SimpleHelix (realy fast magento demo store, lots of scripts, @Mail and seems to have a fast network to europe)
So any advices on premium shared hosting?
An in Europe, any company similar to mediatemple or simplehelix?
Budjet: up to 100 $
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Jun 30, 2009
768MB VPS with DirectAdmin. I will be using phpBB, Joomla, and MediWiki and would like to install an opcode cacher. The 3 most popular ones appear to be: APC, xcache, and eAccelerator.
wouldn't be able to install an opcode cacher on my own without instructions I can just copy and paste into the command line. So my priorities are that it's easy to install/update, it doesn't take manual tweaking to get it working properly, and it's known to have less issues. With phpBB, Joomla, and MediaWiki in mind, which opcode cacher should I go with?
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Dec 8, 2007
Running gallery2 on a box with 4GB RAM. Tried PHP 5.2 w/XCache then with eAccelerator, both caused segmentation faults after a couple days.
"In a previous article, I stressed a common problem with all PHP op-code caches/accelerators: they die with segmentation faults every once in a while."
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Anybody using logwatcher? How many faults per day do you get? If you're using a cache and never get segfaults how busy is your site and how do you prevent them?
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Mar 4, 2009
I'm developing a PHP application which will be hosted on IIS7 and I'm interested to see if it is possible to get dynamic caching working when using an MVC pattern (I'm currently using the Zend Framework and it's Frontcontroller implementation).
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Mar 27, 2009
Does anyone have this weird problem?? For php applications, they're not so much of an issue. But recently I started to put up .NET applications and there it started so many problems.
The first and most annoying is the caching problem. Whenever i uploaded an aspx file with some change, it takes ages to show up. I have to wait like many many hours to finally see the new version.
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Dec 1, 2007
I've got APC installed and caching op-code fine, and I'm preparing to use the data caching. I did a small test according to the manual:
PHP Code:
<?php$bar = 'BAR';apc_store('foo', $bar);var_dump(apc_fetch('foo'));?>
Returns:
string(3) "BAR"
All good. Then I run just the fetch bit:
PHP Code:
<?phpvar_dump(apc_fetch('foo'));?>
Returns:
bool(false)
It seems that the data is not caching beyond the execution of the file with apc_store in it. How to fix this? Or am I misunderstanding the way data caching works in APC? May be a silly question but I'm working with this for the first time and would appreciate help.
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Aug 26, 2007
When I downloading some files from my ftp on server, this files ALWAYS caches by server.
E.g after downloading 50MB file, server's cache are much bigger than before downloading.
In effect my board which is installed too on server has got less memory space for current php/mysql operations. How can I modify or disable that server caching? I have got Debian 4.0 and PhpAccelerator.
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Oct 7, 2013
I updated our Apache 2.2. to Apache 2.4.6. (on Windows 2008). Now, I'm not sure if caching with mod_cache and mod_cache_disk is working properly.
Reproduce:
- Restart Apache and clear the cache
- Open a simple html site on the webserver
- If you take a look at the cache-directory, two files are generated (i.e. 12aabcd1234.data and 12aabcd1234.header)
- Wait a minute or two and refresh the site, doing a second request
You see that:
With Apache 2.2, the files in the cache-directory are not updated after the second request. They have the timestamp from the first request. With Apache 2.4, the files in the cache-directory are updated on the second request. They have the timestamp from the second request.
So it seems to me, that Apache 2.4 is not really caching. On every page refresh, Apache is updating the files in the cache.
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May 2, 2009
Currently I cache php to html in a folder, and any time I upload index.php the whole site recaches. It also is set to a specific time such as 1 day, and the specific page will recache on someone hitting a page in 1 day from last cache.
The problem is when there are thousands of people on, and the index.php is uploaded the site crashes due to connections to the database, and possibly writing to the folder as well.
What is the best way to cache these files to html, and not have it crash every time I try to update things on the site. Also it needs to be something somewhat simple.
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May 31, 2009
we have little problem on our server - from some time it starts reporting some errors:
kernel: spamd[6479]: segfault at 9a16000 ip 467840ac sp bffe9b5c error 6 in libc-2.5.so[46713000+13e000]
kernel: webalizer[12318]: segfault at 81a80cc ip 080d9279 sp bff2f230 error 4 in webalizer[8048000+b2000]
kernel: spamd[6515]: segfault at 9cbb000 ip 467840ac sp bffe9b5c error 6 in libc-2.5.so[46713000+13e000]
kernel: pure-quotacheck[16285]: segfault at bf3c9ff8 ip 46769d76 sp bf3c9fec error 6 in libc-2.5.so[46713000+13e000]
kernel: php[14910]: segfault at bf727da0 ip 080b0edc sp bf727d30 error 6 in php[8048000+64d000]
errors appear 2-3 times every 10min and always in this 4 programs: webalizer, php, spamd, pure-quotacheck
and second thing there is problem with some file caching or sth - for example when we restarts named it reports:
/etc/named.conf:23564: open: /var/named/slaves/slaves.named.conf: file not found
file of course exist but funniest thing is when we remove this line from named.conf and tries restart it, error appear again, even when this line is empty in named.conf and there is no other include of this file
even after server restart (without this include in named.conf) it still reports this error
server config: C2Q Q9550, 8GB ram, 2x500GB in hw Raid1, Centos 5.3 32bit, cPanel
maybe someone have any idea what it could be, and what else we can check ?
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Aug 20, 2014
I would like to setup a caching Bind nameserver for which I need to modify the file /etc/named.conf. The file is automatically created by Plesk however and I am unable to find information on how to modify the file in Plesk.
Code:
#ATTENTION!
#
#DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE BECAUSE IT WAS GENERATED AUTOMATICALLY,
#SO ALL YOUR CHANGES WILL BE LOST THE NEXT TIME THE FILE IS GENERATED.
// $Id: named.conf,v 1.1.1.1 2001/10/15 07:44:36 kap Exp $
Any way to modify named.conf?
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Jun 5, 2008
I use Virtuozzo with layeredtech, and since I'm on the move anyway, thought I'd like to try out some different Virtualization products before the migration.
Allot of these products like bare-metal installs though... which is why I'm particularly looking for "virtual media" on the KVM.
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Jul 26, 2008
If i had a server i would much pefer that the center had a forum
community and live support to help when and if you're unsure.
I guess that would be an extra managed service with most providers
I couldn't handle if i had a prob and i had to wait on forum replys
A good deal on a dedicated while good support is allways available.
Someone that offers unmetered monthly bandwidth packages.
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Jul 10, 2008
There is a new page on Rackspace's website where they are offering to match the price of any hosting company that sells the same package of specifications. It sounds like there will be no compromise on the standards of service included in the deal.
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Apr 26, 2008
I have been looking at the offers in the Web Hosting Talk->Advertising Forums->Web Hosting Offers->Dedicated Hosting Offers forum and I cannot find any explanation for the transfer value.
When an advertiser says 10Tb Transfer (ignore case, as I've seen an advert where it is 10TB in the subject and 10Tb in the body)
Anyway, my question, is the 10Tb in bits or bytes (cannot determine from the case, already established inconsistencies here)
Also, over what period of time is the 10T bits/bytes, E.G. is is that amount of data per day, week, month, year etc.
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Mar 20, 2008
What company you recommend for Server Administrations (Linux and Windows).
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Aug 19, 2007
Are there any colo companies that offer either the purchase or license rental of cPanel/WHM? I'd like to find a colo that is in the St. Louis, Chicago or Atlanta area if possible.
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Sep 26, 2007
the original domain registrar itself finally joins the VPS fray. Just saw this on their website:
[url]
After roughly a year or so (I think) of offering the hosting we all know, looks like they've finally decided it's time to take the next step.
(to think I'll be moving my domain name away from them next month...)
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Jan 11, 2009
Has anyone noticed how there is more and more hosts which offers 10tb bandwith on dedicated server lines?Looks like soon that will become standard on all hosting datacenters.
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Oct 5, 2008
I'm an existing customer of Hosting Company X and notice that they have recently launched an offer that is a higher config than what I have right now, at the same price.
When asked about it, I was refused the higher config citing that new offers are not applicable for existing customers. I've been with them for over a year and have been experiencing very good support from them, but this one issue baffles me.
Why are existing customers less important?
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