Mosso Caching
Mar 27, 2009
Does anyone have this weird problem?? For php applications, they're not so much of an issue. But recently I started to put up .NET applications and there it started so many problems.
The first and most annoying is the caching problem. Whenever i uploaded an aspx file with some change, it takes ages to show up. I have to wait like many many hours to finally see the new version.
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Mar 4, 2009
I'm developing a PHP application which will be hosted on IIS7 and I'm interested to see if it is possible to get dynamic caching working when using an MVC pattern (I'm currently using the Zend Framework and it's Frontcontroller implementation).
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Dec 1, 2007
I've got APC installed and caching op-code fine, and I'm preparing to use the data caching. I did a small test according to the manual:
PHP Code:
<?php$bar = 'BAR';apc_store('foo', $bar);var_dump(apc_fetch('foo'));?>
Returns:
string(3) "BAR"
All good. Then I run just the fetch bit:
PHP Code:
<?phpvar_dump(apc_fetch('foo'));?>
Returns:
bool(false)
It seems that the data is not caching beyond the execution of the file with apc_store in it. How to fix this? Or am I misunderstanding the way data caching works in APC? May be a silly question but I'm working with this for the first time and would appreciate help.
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Aug 26, 2007
When I downloading some files from my ftp on server, this files ALWAYS caches by server.
E.g after downloading 50MB file, server's cache are much bigger than before downloading.
In effect my board which is installed too on server has got less memory space for current php/mysql operations. How can I modify or disable that server caching? I have got Debian 4.0 and PhpAccelerator.
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Oct 7, 2013
I updated our Apache 2.2. to Apache 2.4.6. (on Windows 2008). Now, I'm not sure if caching with mod_cache and mod_cache_disk is working properly.
Reproduce:
- Restart Apache and clear the cache
- Open a simple html site on the webserver
- If you take a look at the cache-directory, two files are generated (i.e. 12aabcd1234.data and 12aabcd1234.header)
- Wait a minute or two and refresh the site, doing a second request
You see that:
With Apache 2.2, the files in the cache-directory are not updated after the second request. They have the timestamp from the first request. With Apache 2.4, the files in the cache-directory are updated on the second request. They have the timestamp from the second request.
So it seems to me, that Apache 2.4 is not really caching. On every page refresh, Apache is updating the files in the cache.
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May 2, 2009
Currently I cache php to html in a folder, and any time I upload index.php the whole site recaches. It also is set to a specific time such as 1 day, and the specific page will recache on someone hitting a page in 1 day from last cache.
The problem is when there are thousands of people on, and the index.php is uploaded the site crashes due to connections to the database, and possibly writing to the folder as well.
What is the best way to cache these files to html, and not have it crash every time I try to update things on the site. Also it needs to be something somewhat simple.
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Feb 24, 2009
Are they good? They seems to be backed by Rackspace, which is a plus.
Are they a decent provider to deliver 100% uptime? (scheduled downtimes aren't a problem)
I know 100% uptime isn't really realistic, but AFAIK, Rackspace has been delivering 100% uptime for ~2 years? And Mosso has a large cluster, so I don't think downtime can be that often...
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Jan 2, 2009
I have been running my sites on dedicated servers from The Planet for 4 years now. I go through about 500,000 page views per day with a fairly intensive web app (1000+ queries/s). Mosso keeps coming up and it is really interesting me. The promised peace of mind would be a relief and I often have trouble with site lag during peak times even with fairly high end servers. I am wondering if Mosso could work for me or if it is just too good to be true.
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Jul 19, 2008
why so few shared hosting companies enable a php op-caching system on their system (xcache, apc, eaccelerator).
Is there some specific technical reason in place?
Usually I run my own servers, but it happens from time to time that you need a quality shared hosting in order to reccomend it to a friend, for a personal blog, a small website, maybe your own personal blog that you're not keen to host on your dedicated servers already used for big projects ...
Now, as everyone using php applications knows, software like xcache or eaccelerator gives a nice speed bost to page generation. I run xcache on all my servers and vps (mainly running vbullettin and wordpress) and never encountered any issue.
Installing one of those (eg. xcache) is a 5minutes procedure, and even for kiddie-hosting companies that won't know how to build php, the ability to compile eaccelerator is in the cpanel easy php build software, so you don't even need to know how to rebuild php to enable eaccelerator in cpanel.
Despite all these facts is quite impossible to find a decent webhoster with xcache or apc/eacc enabled ...
The only one claiming to have eaccelerator is medialayer : "# Zend Optimizer, IonCube, and eAccelerator" this is a quote from their website.
How come nobody else undertakes this step?
What I have been noticing is most premium shared-hosting provider I encountered run their server with a lot of free memory .. so why not impress the customer with blazing fast page generation times (wordpress footer displaying "page generated in 0.071 seconds" impresses also the non-technical savy customers) enabling such a simple feature ?
There should be something I am missing, for sure.
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Nov 13, 2007
As far as the control panel being so easy, managing clients, billing, registering/transfering domain names. Is there anything comparable?
Im wondering if the $100 per month is worth it?
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Nov 18, 2008
I'm a longtime lurker and finally decided to register today. This place has been great for hosting info., etc.
I've been piggybacking on a friend's Mosso hosting account for about six months. That is, I pay a % of the $100 full-account price, as I haven't needed the full allotment of space, bandwidth, etc.
While I like Mosso and especially the simple control panel, etc., it seems like they've had a tough run of stability problems lately. Other than a couple instances of my site taking a few seconds to load, I haven't been impacted myself (that I can tell).
HOWEVER, I've noticed Mosso very recently has changed the format of their Status blog by eliminating the archives and only showing the latest post or two. This tells me Mosso is concerned with the number and length of outages they've had lately, as it's no longer possible to review recent downtime issues as it was for most of the past few years. (I was watching Mosso long before switching to their hosting.)
Further, maybe I'm just paranoid, and it seems like others would be complaining if it's true, but lately I've suspected some email is going AWOL. There have been several instances lately when I've checked my email after a day or two and noticed 10- and 12-hour gaps with no emails (not even spam). I've also had weird stretches where I've sent emails to a dozen people but only received replies from half of them. (These are friends and business associates; people from whom I'd expect a 95% reply rate.)
After a lot of comments, and especially complaints, on this board over the past couple years, it seems like Mosso rarely comes up here anymore, which seems like it should be a good thing. I'm curious if others here have had recent experience with Mosso and, if so, if they've had any problems.
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Apr 21, 2008
I'm moving away from Mosso after their service is kinda shaky and expensive. For now, my websites don't need scalability.
I looked at WiredTree but they seem to have problems (as posted here) but they do seem like the best of the bunch.
What I'm looking for is managed VPS with spam protection, great uptime, and fully managed (updating software, helping out with DNS changes, etc.)
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Dec 18, 2008
Would you buy from a Mosso reseller and how much would you pay?
Would you buy a plan from a Mosso (mosso.com) reseller? If so, how much would you pay?
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Nov 26, 2007
I’ve gone through a few monster threads about these hosts but for people like me who really like to research projects before making an investment in time/money this site is perfect! Most of the articles about these two hosts and their “grid cluster” type services are a bit outdated and so I thought a new thread was in order to give updated feedback and experiences of these platforms.
The deal is I'm based in SE Asia now, and I have clients mainly in BKK & Singapore.
There are lots of fly by night hosts and resold resellers of reseller hosting providers so there's no real consensus, from what I can gather, as to which would be the best most viable option if your anything bigger than a SOHO. Ok, well that could probably be said of the US market as well since these things tend to fluctuate and a great host one month is being shat on the next but there is no market domination in Asia everything's scattered.
In terms of uptime promises I've seen 98%, 99%, 100% and even the infamous 200% or your 4.95 back guarantees, you get my drift, but probably THE hottest names on the market right now if you're a designer or blogger based on my month of research in October-November of 2007 are:
MediaTemple . com
&
Mosso . com
For reference I'm a web developer so most these offers are designer centric (hosting multiple sites, separate reseller panels, gobs of space, oodles of bandwidth, and ability to handle major spikes in traffic.) Mediatemple even has some spiffy iPhone integration into their CP so you can sched ur chron jobs while getting ur drink on at the local starbucks in ur best apple fanboi attire if one so desires...
At the moment (MT) logos are propagating throughout the blog-o-sphere at an astronomical rate. Almost every trendy designer or blog has either been on, is currently on, or knows someone sister’s uncle’s cousin on Media Temple. I half suspect there are people affixing the (MT) logo just to get in on the cool factor while enjoying the 200% uptime guarantee from 4.95 hosts. But all that aside their offerings are quite impressive for the Grid Server and Dedicated Virtual.
The GridServer concept sounds amazing, exactly what I needed a service to handle the massive influx of visitors my ego imagines I get all the time from DIGG (aka the digg effect) and the ability to host multiple domains with enough space/bandwidth at a reasonable price. So I read the reviews, yes there were growing pains from 2006, a few more in 2007 but people were generally saying things improved as well they should.
So I gave it a shot! I decided to test their GS service out using my resource intensive JOOMLA (mySQL/PHP) a luck-foad of extensions and modules installed to drive up my sql queries, and a server side image processing suite that dynamically scales images for slideshows on demand (slideshowpro). With a 30 day money back guarantee it was worth a test why not.
Now to be fair, I'm in BKK (Thailand) atm so perhaps my results would be different but on the GS running my CMS and image resizing progs (also sql driven) holy crap pictures were taking minutes to resize and send... MINUTES! It was as though every pixel was being pulled from one part of the grid, processed at another, sql query goes to the sql side of the grid and if you jumped twice and pat yourself on the head twice while bouncing a quarter off your foot without letting it drop maybe a picture would come through.
That was pretty disconcerting considering the company that develops my slideshow software is... HOSTED ON (MT), but he's on the (DV) servers I do believe.
Responsiveness of the site was horrendous, and maybe if I was running a very lean mean blog only CMS this would be ok but I have calendaring, site wide translation into 14 languages, Dynamic image processing, Forums, HD videos, my porn collection, and a host of other things my clients don't know about...
Anyway, I'm still testing MediaTemple out and have for the time being bit the bullet and decided to upgrade to the DV line of servers which I've heard good things about for $50/mo that also has a 30 day money backer. Online research shows people who've been having issues with the GS seem to find happiness on the DV servers. I'm still transitioning my databases to this platform but it must be the transpacific journey because it's still seemingly slow! Faster than GS but still 2-4x slower than my bargain basement (Singapore based) shared hosting test servers in every way.
The problem is people who are currently on DV are saying it's not digg-proof, whereas the GS tends to be more so if you can live with the performance although I've been hearing some evidence to the contrary as of late. With regard to the DV solution buckling here's one example of a very popular blogger/designer who was making the jump:
"I’m looking for a better hosting company to host my sites. Do you have any good ones to recommend? This site and Best Web Gallery are hosting at Media Temple, 512mb dedicated-virtual server. Lately, my sites have been down almost every day. I’m getting very frustrated with Media Temple and I want to move out. I’m tired of restarting my server (VPS) everyday.
Their tech supports told me that my WordPress sites use too much SQL and CPU resources and I should upgrade to higher hosting plan. But I already upgraded three times since hosting with them: from SS (shared hosting) to GS (Grid-Service), then GS to 256mb DV, and now 512mb DV plan. My site has proved that they can’t handle the Digg Effect.
Recently I got dugg twice and my site was down immediately as soon it made popular to Digg front page. So, I don’t think upgrading will make any difference. I think it is time to move and find a better host."
via ndesign-studio . com
Well that just won't do, clients of my caliber like asiandogwhistles . com are constantly under bombardment from sites like Digg and Fark. So to hear this from a 3rd generation (MT)er doesn't look good and I'm over in Asia so add another 150 ping on a good day but if a whale farts near the optical cable in the pacific it can spike to +250 ping. My whale ping theory is currently being circulated in various academic circles if you must know…
That brings us to now, and right now we are trying to figure out how viable Mosso's solution could be but most of the posts here are from last year. I have written this essay in hopes of being able to get UP-TO-DATE reviews of the Mosso system from users who have spent some time on it. If you are in my boat, your situation will be similar to this:
1. looking to step up from Shared Hosting
2. looking for reliability to handle digg/fark/slashdot
3. looking for a service that just works with little management
4. Ability to add multiple sites with custom user panels
5. Ability to focus on more web development and less on server management
So while I know I'm merely postponing the inevitable move to dedicated right now I'd like to just do what it is I do best, writing long articles... but after that is web development.
I've heard great things about rackspace of course, and while Mosso is using their systems to a degree they have a fully customized their "hosting system" similar to (MT)'s grid concept so it’s not exactly Rackspace.
The question is where do they stand now? Is anyone running production sites on there?
Or better yet is there anyone outside of the US running their sites on there or is that just not a viable option anymore? I’ve done enough searching to understand Mosso’s clustered solution is supposedly better than (MT)’s but is it production stable at this point?
I don't mind giving up ping and throughput slightly if the reliability and service is higher so let's hear it!
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May 31, 2009
we have little problem on our server - from some time it starts reporting some errors:
kernel: spamd[6479]: segfault at 9a16000 ip 467840ac sp bffe9b5c error 6 in libc-2.5.so[46713000+13e000]
kernel: webalizer[12318]: segfault at 81a80cc ip 080d9279 sp bff2f230 error 4 in webalizer[8048000+b2000]
kernel: spamd[6515]: segfault at 9cbb000 ip 467840ac sp bffe9b5c error 6 in libc-2.5.so[46713000+13e000]
kernel: pure-quotacheck[16285]: segfault at bf3c9ff8 ip 46769d76 sp bf3c9fec error 6 in libc-2.5.so[46713000+13e000]
kernel: php[14910]: segfault at bf727da0 ip 080b0edc sp bf727d30 error 6 in php[8048000+64d000]
errors appear 2-3 times every 10min and always in this 4 programs: webalizer, php, spamd, pure-quotacheck
and second thing there is problem with some file caching or sth - for example when we restarts named it reports:
/etc/named.conf:23564: open: /var/named/slaves/slaves.named.conf: file not found
file of course exist but funniest thing is when we remove this line from named.conf and tries restart it, error appear again, even when this line is empty in named.conf and there is no other include of this file
even after server restart (without this include in named.conf) it still reports this error
server config: C2Q Q9550, 8GB ram, 2x500GB in hw Raid1, Centos 5.3 32bit, cPanel
maybe someone have any idea what it could be, and what else we can check ?
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Aug 20, 2014
I would like to setup a caching Bind nameserver for which I need to modify the file /etc/named.conf. The file is automatically created by Plesk however and I am unable to find information on how to modify the file in Plesk.
Code:
#ATTENTION!
#
#DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE BECAUSE IT WAS GENERATED AUTOMATICALLY,
#SO ALL YOUR CHANGES WILL BE LOST THE NEXT TIME THE FILE IS GENERATED.
// $Id: named.conf,v 1.1.1.1 2001/10/15 07:44:36 kap Exp $
Any way to modify named.conf?
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Jan 3, 2009
I have been running my sites on dedicated servers from The Planet for 4 years now. I go through about 500,000 page views per day with a fairly intensive web app (1000+ queries/s). Mosso keeps coming up and it is really interesting me. The promised peace of mind would be a relief and I often have trouble with site lag during peak times even with fairly high end servers. I am wondering if Mosso could work for me or if it is just too good to be true.
I searched the forums, but most of what I found was from 2006 when it first came out, wondering if I can get any info from people who have had experience or heard things more recently. I am really interested about loading times. I read from a lot of people that they experienced slow load times for pages (again these posts were at least a year old), but I viewed some sites hosted on Mosso and they seemed quite fast to me.
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Jan 19, 2009
Has anyone used or is anyone using Mosso as their hosting solution?
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Jun 28, 2009
The title basically says/asks it all. I believe Mosso initially had no Rackspace affiliation other than using Rackspace's services, and then subsequently became a subsidiary of Rackspace. Now, over the past few days, Mosso has become The Rackspace Cloud.
Given Rackspace's reputation, I have to believe this is good news, but I figured I'd toss it out there for the pros to discuss.
I've thought about taking the plunge to Mosso/Rackspace Cloud but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I wouldn't use anywhere close to the full $100 package at the start but I'd probably grow into it within 6-12 months, as my sites get back online and grow. Thus, I'm kind of facing the old chicken-and-egg conundrum: I don't want to pay $100 for $10 worth of usage, but at the same time, moving sites -- and especially IMAP email accounts -- is such a pain in the rear end, I don't want to keep moving every time my sites/traffic grows.
I wish these guys had a $25 or $50 starter plan from which users could upgrade. I'd be all over that. (I know about their lower-cost Cloud Server packages (or whatever it's called), but I'm not tech-savvy enough for unsupported hosting.)
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Sep 16, 2008
Given the novelty, the backing of a primary hosting player, etc., I had expected more info on Mosso than I'm seeing. One advantage I bring is I'm not a developer or operate a hosting company, just an entrepreneur who deals with his own servers. Here goes -
I don't think Mosso is ready for prime time. The marketing on their site is beautiful. When a friend recommended it (an entrepreneur like me), coupled with all the promises on their marketing pages, plus the pricing, I thought moving my service to Mosso was a no-brainer.
First of all, kudos to them for having a user forum. I firmly believe this is the right way to go. Unfortunately it also confirmed my experience was not unique. On the day I signed up, the control panel was not responsive. It took a long time and several attempts to load. The user forum also points to almost daily downtime, though granted for only a few minutes in most cases (via the pingdom links provided).
The forums are currently password protected, but a Mosso employee said this is accessible via a demo account. I suggest you review the forums before signing up with Mosso, it would have saved me time and effort.
In short -
1. The service doesn't provide the uptime suggested by their marketing pages.
2. Initial review suggests the software needs security updates. I emailed them my findings, hopefully it helps them. No response after 2 days. I'm keeping this vague intentionally.
3. The cancellation of an account was a mini-AOL-like experience. You can't cancel via the admin console. Turns out you cancel via email. What kills me most about this is the lack of understanding of security. They want me to email them my account's username and password. Since I'm human, I only have 2-3 passwords for all my accounts (banking, registar, etc.). And for me to email them my password is not appropriate at best. I had to use the "forget password" function to create a new one so I could email it to them.
4. I really think they over promise on their marketing. I think they should label it as a "beta" product to better reflect its status. The parent company has a great reputation, and I've used them in the past, hopefully they'll better protect their reputation by more openly reflecting Mosso's status. How can they have an enterprise level system with almost daily downtime?
5. My bad, but I didn't realize until after signing up that they offer no SLA uptime, just a partial refund when it goes down.
I really like the concept, and except for the fact I felt deceived, I would happily go back to Mosso because it provides what I'm looking for, once the marketing matches the delivery.
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Oct 5, 2008
im a webdesigner, so most of my time as to be for designing and not to manage hosting settings.
So from my experience hosting companies like (mt) mediatemple (20 dollars/moth) or mosso (100 dollars/moth) are indicated to webdesigner´s that whant to host some low/medium resources websites to their clients.
So any suggestion on other companies similar adequate for webdesigners? I dont mind paying for premium service
Must have/be:
Customized control panel (like mosso or mediatemple)
@Mail (or other beautiful email client)
Quality Support/Uptime
Created more than 4 years
Location: UK / Europe Datacenter
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May 10, 2009
I have been very interested in Mosso for quite some time, though Cloud Sites didn't seem quite right for what I needed with the compute cycles they had. However, their fairly new Cloud Sites looks very interesting, and their sales people at least will have me believe load balancing with several server instances will be superior to my current dedicated server.
Right now I have a server with Liquid Web that costs me $424/mo and 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz with 4GB of RAM. The average load on the server is anywhere from 30% at low times to 70-80% at peak times and memory usage is usually 20-50%. On average there are about 1000 mysql queries per second as the site is very ajax-intensive (hence Cloud Sites being way too expensive).
I don't really know the difference and technical side of all of this, I just program and do the business side of things, but I really like what Mosso has and am wondering if I would get a performance boost going with their Cloud Servers (Going with something like 8 server instances at 512mb RAM each @ only around $200/mo including bandwidth). Also, would I want to load balance all 8, or do something like 4 running the mysql and the other 4 serving the actual site?
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