OnLiveGlobal -> Worst Customer Support Outsourcing Company

Feb 3, 2008

Alright, I do not know why but all my technicians who I had hand picked right here from WHT started to leave one by one. I definitely do not think its due to price or work-load cause ALL of them first worked as staff on our help desk for a week and then fixed price themselves. I did no barging at all ~ so I suppose it was a personal problem.

I'll never forgive myself for this, but I took someone's advise and thought to give a shot at outsourcing technical support. I went up to this company called "OnLiveGlobal" - they are all Indians and thats what I needed exactly cause 50% of my customer base are Indians; I assumed I had a perfect match. And was just dreaming of all the money I could save in the process...

First Day
- excellent work; all support tickets are being answered within 20 mins and resolved withing an hour - WOW!

Second Day
Now comes t
- excellent work; all support tickets are being answered within 20 mins and resolved withing an hour - WOW!

Third Day
Ticket is open 2 hours... 3 hours... I reply and resolve it eventually. A few more tickets are opened in the process and I resolve all of them.

Then I ask for a refund on the 4th day of the service (doesn't their website say 7 days money back?) just due to the lack of service (forget satisfaction for now ). The guy named 'Sooraj' says I'll be refunded in 24-48 hours; alright I'm cool.

48 hours passes by, nothing done. I check MSN, no one is online! All the reps have probably blocked my address and/or deleted me completely of their contact list. So I find this user "onliveglobal" on WHT and PM him and ask him for some help regarding the refund. No continuous response - I fill a dispute in PayPal and now you guys have to read this... its hilarious:

I have censored and clipped a lot of personal information in the quotes below.

PayPal Transaction Details

Quote:

Transc ID: XXXABCXXXABCXXXA
Seller Name & Email: OnLiveGlobal, paypal@onliveglobal.com
Transaction Amount: XXX USD
Transaction Date: 10-Jan.-2008

Message From Seller

Quote:

...
We did get start working on their services as per our SLA. We did work on their Helpdesk and resolved tickets ABC-123456, XYZ-123456, PQR-123456, ABC-123456, XYZ-123456 and many others which are unlogged for over 2 to 3 weeks from Jan 03 and after nearly one month of using our services, the buyer claims saying he is not satisfied.
...

After reading this; instead of getting upset or whatever, I was just laughing for a full minute.

I am sure many of you will state that out-sourcing is wrong from the bottom, right and I couldn't agree any less - I wont do that mistake again (and wont dream of saving loads of $$$). I have already picked a few techs again and all good and going now

If the OnLiveGlobal representative even replies to this thread and tries to prove a point, I least care. Who ever reads this is gonna have a laugh and thats what I care now...

Just after that incident I did come across a few other companies; ThinkSupport, TouchSupport, BobCares, etc and heard that their near to perfect. I haven't lost complete faith over the outsourcing phenomena but lets see if I choose to outsource later on for something else...

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Sandy: 2007-11-14 13:29:58 removed for privacy
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Sandy: ok
myname: I tried that
Sandy: ok
myname: They werent there either
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First let me say I cringe whenever the thought of changing dedicated providers enters my mind. Sorting through the resellers and all of the broken promises is a tedious process and I like many others have been screwed over too frequently.

I came across HiVelocity yesterday and their offer for a quad core, 8gb 500 drive for $199. Sounded great, plus they offer free KVM over IP which was a bonus.

Yesterday about 4:45pm eastern I went on live chat with sales at HiVelocity and spoke with Kevin B. I asked if he could get this server online quickly and he said all servers are built after 5pm for the day and are usually online that night. We went over the details of my order and I quickly sent a paypal payment. I was undecided on Windows 2003 or 2008 but I went with 2003. At about 8pm Kevin leaves me a voice mail on my cell and tells me they ran out of Heat Sinks and that the server would be delayed until Wednesday. "Ran out of heat sinks" sounded a little odd like I was being BS'ed but I figured it was fine because I did want 2008 installed on it and decided the $50/month extra was worth it. I went back to on to Live Chat about 10pm and Kevin said he would have a day tech get to the server for me in the morning (Wednesday) and I also upgraded the O/S to Server 2008 DataCenter and increased the bandwidth to 100Mbps. I sent over ANOTHER paypal payment to upgrade. Grand total $248 + $55 (for 2008 upgrade and dedicated kvm). $303 later and...

This morning (Wednesday) I make contact again and Kevin says he has a day tech working on it. 3pm rolls around, contact again and he says its built and ready. HiVelocity provides a link to a supposedly "live" server build page that shows you the status of the build. Status never said built but I took his word for it and waited for the welcome email so I could finally get my sites online and meet my deadline.

Well 9:30pm rolls around and NO SERVER YET!

I go to live chat again and talk to Andrew. He says sorry for the delay, you can check your status at the status page. I lost it at that point and pretty much told him I lost 31 hours so far "waiting" for a server to be built when I could have gone with another company and had the thing online at least within 14-18 hours and spent the remainder with configuring and migrating data. Told him 10:30pm the server better be ready or I'm canceling and disputing the charge with Paypal.

It is now 11:17 and I've been writing this whole time. I kept checking my email and even gave andrew my cell phone number to give to anyone there who cared and wanted to keep me as a customer. Still no email, no server, out $303, lost over 33 hours as of right now and its looking like the hosting hunt will begin again *^*(o.o)*^*

So anyway I wanted to share this horror story. This is why I HATE shopping for a dedicated server.

I read a lot of mixed reviews for HiVelocity and I really don't want to give them more bad press but the way I've been promised everything and NOTHING was done justifies me posting this for everyone to read.

If you're looking for a dedicated server, I would advise to pass this MAJOR HASSLE of a company. "Impressive Support" my @!#.

AND YES, everyone I spoke with BEFORE THE PURCHASE was well aware that I needed this pronto and I was assured it would get done! Now they are silent and ignoring me.

And if the guy that mods for HiVelocity on these boards reads this, the damage has been done. Instead of handling AFTER CARE for people on the boards, how difficult is it to communicate. I don't care if it wasn't going to get done at least I would have known and gotten another box somewhere else and used this as a backup. Making sure your account managers don't talk #$@#%$ and not deliver should be of more concern.

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