Do You Think Selling Vps Servers Is Good Business
Jul 5, 2008I am planning to offer vps hosting but im wondering if its a good idea to start offering vps?
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How Good Is Using Whm/cpanel For Selling Hosting
Jul 12, 2007I am doing some part-time work for a small web design company that is hoping to get some extra revenue by selling hosting to its customers after it designs the sites for them.
They wanted to know what I thought about it, and so far I've said that it seems like getting a dedicated server (from a larger provider) for about $200/month would be a good fit. If they charged $20/month then they'd make it up after only about 10 customers, and they have many more than that. And with a dedicated server they could put a lot more than 10 accounts on the site.
The thing they're worried about is having to actually administer all those accounts. The sense is that their clients are pretty low maintenance, but if you give one malicious user an FTP account into the server, they are (understandably) worried about that person's ability to affect the entire server.
The dedicated server provider I have in mind provides WHM/cPanel for a relatively small fee, and my thought is that this could address that problem.
So (having only used WHM/cPanel in passing myself), what I'm wondering is, is this the sort of thing where they could give users access simply by giving their customers a cPanel account, and not worry too much about security or configuration (keeping in mind that the dedicated host also has security people working)?
FDC Servers LLC - Wrong Business Ethics
Apr 9, 2008I completely amazed on how this Company has managed to engineer their TOS & AUP in such a way that they can in essence discriminate, destroy your hardware and steal your money in the process...
The developed some type of a bias against me, and then the true colors came out. It all started with a simple argument over a Cpanel License on a VDS that I had rented from them. I decide to send my own server instead to save a few dollars and I overnight the box.
-- For support to tell me that the brand new Corsair 750Watt PS is dead. We had sealed the server with stickers to ensure that no one would open it and tamper with the hardware inside. That's the first thing they did, was to remove the stickers and pretend that they PS was dead and that they had to Trouble Shoot.
-- I get the power supply back and it was in perfect working condition, obviously after they had made a few dollars on handling the shipping.
-- I asked them my options and they then try to make me buy a PS from them. Until I ship another one in. They let that ride 2 days until I send a ticket for a reboot. Right away, ohh that PS apparently died right there and then. 4 minutes after I open the ticket asking for a reboot.
> Then I notice some type of QoS going on specifically on my IP. As I know a few others that have servers there and we verified the routes back to our local provider. My upload was about 50kbps. I inquire to get the usual "routes" cannot be controlled.
As well I would see when downloading something from my box; the speeds would startup at max out and throttle all the way down to around 50kbps and maintain. From different local points as well.
> Anyhow I decide not to complain and to pay. Thus I get 2x Internap dedicated bandwidth @ $225.00 a month + $99.00. 1x Internap per Eth interface. That is after I had already paid them $269.00 for the initial VDS as well which I never got a refund for, that was just wasted money now.
> I got to enjoy that for about 8 days. Until I asked for a reboot before I messed up accidently a ifconfig command. That's when it went again, from ohhh the box is rebooted. Took about 4 hours, three techs telling me it was beeing rebooted. Never could I connect again. Then I ask them if I they have perhaps KVM over IP so I Can take care of the problem and save them time. All of a sudden the story evolves to a dead motherboard. When I question the tech, he tells me that he swapped all parts and tested them and that the motherboard was dead. That was as well a brand new WS motherboard. Running at around 34 degrees celcius temp for the 8 days very stable without any issues.
> Of course I complained some, looked for the owner to have a discussion. Stumble on Better Business Bureau US and find that others complained there. Mentioned that in the ticket and they terminated my service; keeping of course the rest of my money; Because that too is in their AUP/TOS no refunds
Thus if I get it right, they can randomly choose people that they believe they can easily take. Or simply dislike. It's simple, break their hardware. They will have no choice to ship it back; to then fill their place with another customer because they are low on space. But still bill the first one for the rest remainder of the month, why? Because they can, it's in their well engineered TOS/AUP. So I got to use it from the 26th of last month to today but still will pay until the 26th of this month.
They are allowed to do all of the above, why because they are big now Right!
BT Business Web Hosting - Servers In Canada
Oct 24, 2008I am developing a website for a client, whose web host is BT Business Broadband. I had noticed that the FTP connection to their server was a but slow, and the http connection was not as fast as my reseller account here. I also noticed something else funny....
I have simple PHP script that greets users according to the time of day. It was saying Good Morning, when it is the afternoon. To test, I uploaded another script to output the current time of the server. It was 5 hours out!
I contacted BT to ask them why the time was wrong, and they said that it's because the server is not located in the UK, the company that manages the server is located in Canada!
Frankly I am dissapointed with BT and feel slightly ripped off on behalf of the client.
They pay them enough money to expect a fast service, and to have the server located in the same country, let alone the same continent! This also will affect their search engine results, as it is hosted on a foreign IP address.
Has anyone else heard about this about BT before?
1and1.co.uk Dedicated Servers...any Good?
Oct 10, 2006I'm looking to buy a dedicated server from 1and1.co.uk - there features are great, but i hear so many bad things about customer service, I wondered what your experiences are before i purchase:
Details:
For £69 inc VAT (A Month)
Free FTP backup space – 80 GB
AMD Athlon 64 3,000+
1,024 MB DDR RAM
2x80 GB hard drive (RAID1)
Fedora Core
Firewall
Plesk 8 (100 domains)
Unlimted 100 MBit Bandwidth (Wow)
24x7 Telephone Support (Sceptical About this)
1&1 Dedicated Servers: Good Experiences
Apr 24, 2008I have been with 1&1 for over three years now and I have never seen our dedicated server go down. Their network is first-class and I have actually been able to get transfer rates of over 10MB/sec on our 100Mbps port.
I'm in the market for a colo host now because our current hardware is getting old and the CPU is really loaded down, but in my search I realized how many bad comments there are and how few good comments there are about hosts. Therefore, I just wanted to try and make the reviews more equitable before I leave this host (and possible get ripped off at my next one
Surf Speedy Servers - Too Good To Be True
Aug 10, 2007Recently I saw an advertisement about Surf Speedy Servers [url] and I am interested in one of their VPS servers.
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However when I searched for reviews in WebHostingTalk and other websites, I got only REALLY bad and REALLY good reviews regarding Surf Speedy Servers (mostly at webhostingjury.com).
Can you tell me if you had any good or bad experience with Surf Speedy, and what are their problems?
Good Free Antivirus For Linux Dedicated Servers?
Jul 2, 2008good free antivirus for linux dedicated servers? ...
View 7 Replies View RelatedDedicated Servers For Germany -- Good Providers? OK To Host In Amsterdam
Mar 9, 2008We need to get another dedicated server in Germany for a video application (so low latency and high-quality connectivity are crucial). Our current server is hosted with NetDirekt in Frankfurt -- our first year with them has been very good. However I want the next server located in a different city, for redundancy.
My considerations:
- English-speaking sales & support
- Highly reliable network
- Low latency to Germany users
Do you have any recommendations among the following short-list of providers?
Germany:
- plusserver.de
- probe-networks.de
- hosteurope.de
Amsterdam:
- eurovps.com
- leaseweb.com
Is Amsterdam a suitable location if I'm serving German end-users? Latency matters a lot... so if a German datacenter saves 20ms of latency, that's important.
Do you know of any other comparable providers -- especially ones that do not require a 12-month contract?
Selling Blades As Dedicated
Oct 13, 2008Does anyone sell (lease/rent etc) individual Blades as dedicated servers? I'm planning to branch into more rack dense colo services and wondered what the WHT opinion on this matter is.
The way I see it, blades offer more redundancy, quicker provisioning and replacement in cases of failure, and lower costs, all of which would be passed to the customers.
I would of course fully disclose the fact that they are blades, just wondering if it would matter to any buyers..
What Happens To Hosting When Selling A Site
Jul 30, 2008If you sell a site with a database, what happens with the hosting? Does the buyer keep the same hosting or do they get their own and transfer the site?
View 9 Replies View RelatedSelling Your IT Department On ISAPI
Oct 2, 2007I update the corporate website for my company. Our server is IIS and when I need a 301, I have to send a request to IT to do it, as our pages are static .html and .shtml (SSI) and using javascript redirects is not ideal for SEO.
A redesign we're going to be deploying, will include the shuffling of several pages/directories and redirecting of quite a few URL's. This fact alone seems to provide a good argument convincing IT that this is a good idea. From what I've read here and elsewhere, heliontech's solution seems to be the way to go.
Since this is 3rd party, I'm looking to have further leverage to explain my case on behalf of using this. Are there benchmarks and data that support the reliability of this method versus the straight MS stuff?
Also, I'm not real tech savvy on the server end, but I was told that our corporate site and application sites may reside on the same box and that applying the ISAPI rewrite would affect those as well. This would obviously make it a "no sell" with my IT colleagues.
Would sites residing on the same server be globally affected by the ISAPI? If so, is there a way to circumvent this and just set the ISAPI for the one site?
Selling A 4 Socket Enterprise Server
Jun 3, 2007I have a somewhat unusual question for a hosting forum, but it seems to fit here reasonably well. I figure that anyone who does colo would know about buying and selling servers.
Right now, I have a very high-end system, basically a Sun V40z:
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It is fully configured with processors, memory, but only has a single hard drive currently. The system comes with a built in management processor and OS; from the console you can boot/restart the server, check which DIMMs or processors are working (or failed), etc. It has been barely used, and is in mint condition.
I'm thinking about selling it, because I'd prefer a smaller, more compact server.
Where do you guys go to sell servers? Based on listings here, the server seems to sell in the range of 20K, with a warranty of sorts (30 days):
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Obviously, I can provide no warranty, but I have pretty much the same configuration.
It's meant to be a pretty high-end database server, and I just don't need this many horsepower.
Setting Up Selling E-book Site
Apr 27, 2007I am selling e-book on howtolearnmath.com
Currently I am using ebookpro.com
If I use PDF, how can I know others won't just download my e-book for free?
Ipower - Blatant Over Selling, Trying To Kick Me Off With Fake TOS
Dec 16, 2008Ipower - blatant over selling, trying to kick me off with fake TOS
I am currently being ignored on live chat with Ipower.
They issued me with possibly the stupidest TOS violation imaginable. They claimed that I am using my web space for storing files which is not allowed - it must be site content. The links to the files are public on the site. They have admitted, actually admitted, that the TOS is fake. Yet they have just suspended my directories.
The real reason is because they are over selling disk space. Our contract gives me 2 Tb and I am daring to use 25% of that space. They have told me - straight out - they want me off their server because I am using too much of what I paid for.
Why do web hosts like Ipower believe that they can just ignore the law like this? It is false advertising, fraud and breach of contract. They have expressed their contempt for the law in plain English. What is it with these people? Why must I sue them to have this blatantly stupid matter resolved?
Selling C Class IP Addresses To Forward To Our Server?
May 15, 2008We are interested to buy different C class IPs so we can host many related sites on the same server. Our hosting provider does not sell different C class IPs. I wanted to know if there is anyway to buy IP addresses from somewhere else, lets say from other hosting companies, or private providers, who would forward the IP to our server. Did you ever hear of such service?
Does any one want to offer us this serivce?
Companies Selling Provider Independent IP Address Space? Scam
Jul 29, 2008They seem to sell or help you get Provider Independent IP space and AS numbers, is this a scam or is it something allowed by ARIN?
View 5 Replies View RelatedList Of Good Hosters With Good TELEPHONE Tech Support
May 6, 2008I'd like to start an ongoing thread here listing the 'Good Hosters with Good TELEPHONE tech support'. In other words, out of the 1,000s of host companies, this may cut it down to less than a dozen.
( And for all you Hosters out there who really want your company to grow, and want to know how, - it's easy: just read here.)
Good telephone support is the #1 ultimate requirement, because:
-It's a lot faster and easier for both the user and the host company, because you can state and answer all questions and clarifications on the spot, you don't need to continually pass new emails with new questions and clarifications, back and forth for days on end, until the issue is solved. It saves tech time and user's time. And saves a lot of nerves.
- It's the best way to sort the good guys from the bad. A bad company isn't going to bother to answer the phone, - or will make you wait way too long, - because they are likely getting endless complaints. The good guys are always ready to answer the phones, with a friendly voice, - because they really WANT to please the customer.
- If a company can't be bothered to pick up the phone, we can't be bothered to even consider them. They're a joke, and so won't be listed here on this thread. (So, before adding or listing any Hosters here, please verfify that they do have Good, quick, friendly, telephone support,; ideally 24/7, but 9am to 10pm might be acceptable, if it was supplemented by some emergency contact.
AND:
- Hoster ALSO needs good EMAIL support (and preferably, Chat online, extended hour availability). (I spend a lot of time overseas). It sems all emails should get a non-automated response within about an hour, - and then support should jump on fixing any problem.
I only need support a few times a year. To answer some questions, or fix a problem, or do an install. That's lesss than 1 hour total, so any company paying maybe $18/hour tech support should be able to handle this. It IS reasonable to charge a custm for extended calls, beyond say, 90minutes a year, IF you don't count the 80%? Of times an issue is the Hoster;s fault of stmg gone wrong, and don't count the 'hold' times.
ALSO IMPORTANT:
- Uptime
- site Speeds
- Monthly plans, no contract (Only a dishonest host will try to force you into a contract, where they can then ignore you.)
- Reasonable price. (? Maybe $12 to $18/month for a basic business site. We don't need massive bandwitdths, - we all know that's an overselling scam, and can't ever be delivered.)
- a good upgrade plan of bigger options. Maybe even VPS.
- Dedicated IP, and availbility of SSL
-PHP 5, mysql, phpMyAdmin, etc
- cPanel ( Some Hosts are using problematic panels, like Hsphere, which are slow to load, slow in operation, require many more clicks, have too many options, spread apart on many separate pages. Time is money, and this really slows down the ability of a small business to manage his own site in effective time. For example, one WHT user wrote somewhere: "I don't feel that HSphere's interface is nice at all, although I have worked with cPanel and DA all my life... I just found it to include un-necessary features or split features up in to different hard to find pages, such as backups - mysql backups you had to find on a completely different page than file backups, and then there were options to have it in the home directory or server-end backup, in which then you had to wait a good 10 minutes before it was ready. cPanel, just hit backup and hit download and instantly it does everything you need...".
I have used several hosters. Currently on Aplus.net and Godad, which have phone support, and mediocre service.
My LIST So Far:
- Liquidweb: a very impressive company with good, 24 hour support. But to get dedicated IP, you need to go with their $25/month plan. Yikes!
- NewIdeaHosting.com. A very small company. My call was returned, and the owner chatted with me for an hour on the phone! Plans have small bandwidth, but promises No overselling, and personalized attention. Extra $5 for dedi IP. He specializes in Small business sites, and small eCommerce sites. He has only 250 accounts, on 3 servers. He rents servers from the Equinox data center of Chicago. Seems exceptionaly honest.
- MegaHosters. Excellent phone support and WHT reviews. But company was taken over by another company, and so may well go downhill in future. Another problem: uses Hsphere.
- Steadfast. Has a good rep on WHT, and seems impressive. Tech answered the phone immediately, but they say they prefer emails. Sales phone has limited hours. Good price on $20 SSL. But, uses Hshhere.
- JodoHost 24 hour phone. But, uses Hsphere. An Indian company with office in Florida, and good rep. I like the idea of outsourcing phone support, if it makes it more available and affordable. But, the accent on the phone was very hard for me to understand, so maybe this might not work.....
- Hostgator. Yes, it's a big overseller, but seems to get good reviews/results anyway, and good phone support.
- ? ThePrimeHost ?? Mostly good WHT reviews; some dissenters. Site says 24hour phone, but when I called on several nights, no one ever answered...
- Can anyone add to this list? Please list only hosts that meet the above minimum requirements of phone support, etc. Especially useful is hosters you've tried.
TO AVOID:
- Avoid Arvixe. I had a horrid experience with them, here: [WHT forum]:/showthread.php?p=5097822#post5097822
- Avoid WebHostingBuzz. This company never returned my phone msessage inquiries.
Beware Of Hostmedia Selling "company"
Jun 10, 2008Seems he gave up on the 419 when he came to america and now is doing other scams ....
View 4 Replies View RelatedHardware: Db Servers, Web Servers, File Servers. Cpu, Ram, Disk
Jan 20, 2007I have a lot of questions here so if you can't answer them all I understand. even pointing me somewhere where I could get the answers would be appreciated; hardware sites focusing on server hardware, forums focusing on such, etc.
we plan to have three different types of servers:
- db server (self explanatory. mysql. for forums, mysql driven sites.)
- file server (lots of files around ~2-10MB, consistant 70mbps right now, but we want more room for upgrades. needs a LOT of storage room.)
- web server (lots of php files, but also static things like plain html, images, etc. also includes all misc services for the setup-- dns, etc.)
could I be given a rundown for which hardware each of the three should have? I don't need specifics, even just knowing that more ram is important here while cpu doesn't matter as much, or that the fastest disks available are a must, etc would all be valuable info for me. despite that, I certainly wouldn't mind specific hypothetical hardware configs.
for the database server I'm assuming the more ram the better. not entirely sure about the cpu? also not positive on disks...
for the fileserver, how much ram would be practical or useful? disk io will be an issue I'm because plenty of people will be pulling files at once so the disk needs to read from multiple places. scsi (and even raptors) are not an option as we need 750GB+ of space on a reasonable budget. more ram will take some load of of the disks, but how much is neccessary / reasonable?
for the web server I'm assuming cpu first, then ram, but it'll likely need less ram than the db server?
I'm more lost on the disks than anything. scsi on the fileserver is not an option under any circumstances due to $/GB. for the db & web server I'm willing to pay for scsi if the performance increase really does warrant the extra money, but I'd like to be convinced before shelling it out. if you have benchmarks geared at server hardware when it comes to disks I'd really appreciate it.
also, what's the best way to network these together when colocated? each one with a dual gigabit ethernet port and then the communications go to and from the router?
Seedbox Business
Apr 14, 2009To start I would like to point out that I am expressing my personal opinion and not my company's, although my experience comes from there.
In the last 2-3 months, we noticed an important increase of really hungry customers forcing us to upgrade our infrastructure almost weekly. While this is fun it is also very expensive and requires a lot of prefinancing; something that shouldn't be taken for granted these days. Most of these hungry customers are no doubt seedboxers and they consume an average of 75-85 MBIT/s on a so called unmetered 100 MBIT Port. All of this is fine for me, but I really start wondering what other professionals in this business think of these customers and how they control their bandwidth usage? OVH seems to be pretty clear about this: the more servers you get into your account, the less speed you get per server unless you pay for the pro SLA. I find it interesting, but I doubt that anybody who wants to run a seedbox is actually going to pay a few hundred bucks just to get bandwidth for something that may or may not generate some (legal?) revenue.
Just to ensure those who are following this and might be customers of us: No, we are not going to kick you out! I just want a discussion and get some point of views from others who have been facing the same issue before we actually did.
Zone.NET Going Out Of Business
Feb 10, 2009I have multiple valleywag friends who have gone with Zone.NET for server hosting. I decided to do the same a few weeks back and use them as well. I never got my IP and server info and called customer support. No kidding... been 9 days and Level 1 support kees saying someone will get back to me.
So today I call them and ask them if they are going out of biz because customer support is impossible bad, and he basically said yes!!! Wish they would have told me that upfront.
Anyway, wasted a few weeks with them. Now my cohorts and I are on the lookout for some new hosting companies. All recs welcome
Servage.net Gone Out Of Business
Aug 15, 2008We have been with servage.net for a few months now & have been having lots of issues with emails bouncing, web sites unavailable, very slow, support staff who ignore requests for help etc. etc. etc.
I have posted about them in these forums before.
For the last day the web site they host for us oznotes.net has been "missing", we cant login to cpanel, we have emailed they via the address on there page servage.net & got no reply – but this is typical, they have our money and dont seem to care!
We paid for 12 months hosting in advance
Does anyone know whats happening with them, I rang the TIO – Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman & they cant help with hosting companies.
How To Start A VPN Business
Aug 11, 2008My goal is to offer US, German, and Singapore/HK VPNs. What steps must be taken to achieve this?
View 13 Replies View RelatedBusiness Process
May 13, 2008I'd like to put up here a base question which I hope some will have the goodwill to answer even though it might touch some business secrecies.
We're a gameserver hoster since around ten years, running also vserver products since over two years now. Renting a few Racks in Europe since some time we're a bit in a question mark how rootserver companies deal with the initial hardware costs for every new customer.
Rackspace and today specially power costs are huge cash eaters here in Europe. Dedicated Rootservers are huge space & power consumers per customer ratio. The initial Hw costs for every new rootserver customer might be covered after 4-6 months (if the machine has to be bought newly), adding the bandwidth and power costs it might take up to 8-9 months until a benefit might come in.
Is this the business normality in the rootserver market (waiting 9 months for any benefit, or counting only on the benefit of the 2nd customer using the older Hw), or are the better ways to handle those "initial" costs or keep them affordably low?
Is Vortech Still In Business
Oct 5, 2008Is anyone experiencing no communication from Vortech?
We have a Dell PowerEdge server co-located in a Vortech rack at Colo-Solutions in Orlando. We lost communication with the server 11 days ago, at 13:00 hours 24 Sept 2008. Dan (WHT user Danlvortech) at Vortech, said it was a failed switch and they were working on it.
Nine days ago at 17:00 hours on 26 Sept the network issue was still not fixed and all phone lines into Vortech were not working. We raised ticket requesting release of the server. Vortech billed us another month and agreed to release the ticket. Since then, we have had no contact from Vortech except closure of the original 'No Connection' ticket.
We have written to their CEO Brad Pugh, he does not reply. We try their phone lines every day, the calls are answered by the answering menu, but fail to forward to any department.
Dan and the other guys in Vortech Support do not respond to tickets relating to this matter.
We don't know where the server is!
Is anyone else experiencing similar issues with Vortech?
Does anyone know of any way to make contact with Vortech?
Launching Business
Mar 24, 2008I'm starting a small web hosting/voice chat business. As I'm looking through sites with dedicated servers, I really don't have a clue as to the resource requirements of hosting multiple websites and a few teamspeak/ventrilo servers. What would you recommend I start out with in terms of hardware on a dedicated server?
View 10 Replies View RelatedWebhosting And Business
Aug 27, 2008I am doing SEO and Web designing business for past few years.The main problem I faced in my business is with webhosting.
First I bought shared hosting from some less reputed for cheap rates.But they scam me.
Second I bought a VPS, but they don't work or propagate in all areas.
So now I am going to take a well reputed company to host my sites.
Prolinkhosting.com Still In Business
Dec 26, 2007Seems their page is up and they take orders, but my site is down for about a month. Emails to their support also get an error message that their smtp server isn't working.
They have been limping along for the last year with the server i'm on with almost full disk space all the time.
They also never updated cpanel. Cheap, but the quality was low.
Business Of Peering
Jan 14, 2007How does peering work from the business angle? Say company X has bought a Gb port at an exchange, and wants to peer with other folks peering there. What are the folks typically going to expect from X before they'll peer with it? What are the
characteristics of X that would make folks willing/unwilling to peer? I've no idea what the relative importance of things would becontent (desirable, undesirable) WAN Network. (Does one have to have one?) technical cluefulnessBrand Qualities of the potential peer. It's hard to figure out the realpolitik of it all just by understanding the tech (BGP, etc.) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peering .
Good Avocado Really Good
Oct 20, 2008Any experience with Good Avocado and their reseller plan?
What about Thinkhost, good avocado is partnering with?
Wind and solar energy, it sounds all good, the reseller plan is awesome.
Any real life experience?