Seedbox Business

Apr 14, 2009

To start I would like to point out that I am expressing my personal opinion and not my company's, although my experience comes from there.

In the last 2-3 months, we noticed an important increase of really hungry customers forcing us to upgrade our infrastructure almost weekly. While this is fun it is also very expensive and requires a lot of prefinancing; something that shouldn't be taken for granted these days. Most of these hungry customers are no doubt seedboxers and they consume an average of 75-85 MBIT/s on a so called unmetered 100 MBIT Port. All of this is fine for me, but I really start wondering what other professionals in this business think of these customers and how they control their bandwidth usage? OVH seems to be pretty clear about this: the more servers you get into your account, the less speed you get per server unless you pay for the pro SLA. I find it interesting, but I doubt that anybody who wants to run a seedbox is actually going to pay a few hundred bucks just to get bandwidth for something that may or may not generate some (legal?) revenue.

Just to ensure those who are following this and might be customers of us: No, we are not going to kick you out! I just want a discussion and get some point of views from others who have been facing the same issue before we actually did.

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Dec 7, 2008

I am interested to get a seedbox,the hosting companies say they will give like 300 Gb BW.What does that mean?

download + upload BW = 300 Gb?


download BW = 300 Gb and upload BW = 300 Gb

Secondly they have suppose 100Mbps line,how much download and upload speed will i get?

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Though 6 of these boxes goes to the co-owners i would like to resell the reaming for which i was advised to install WHMCS.

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[Review] Seedbox

Dec 26, 2008

This is my first review at WHT so I am going to try and keep this as short and simple as possible.

I am reviewing the seedbox service provided by [url]

The various packages can be found at [url]


[Excuse the spaces but I need a certain amount of posts before I can post links]

The rating will be provided by looking at the following points,

Obtrix started their seedboxes with a 1gbit port, currently they are out of 1gbit(which will be coming soon though) so they use 100mbit ports. The speeds are great, you can expect atleast 2-6mbit download/upload speeds during peak times, off-peak is much faster. You can make sure to seed back more than a 100% before you finish new torrents. The download speed from their ftp server always maxed out my home connection(1mbit). As far as it goes it does not get better than this.

The prices start from 12.25 usd (2.50usd setup + 9.95usd package). The setup fees could be cut down by paying quarterly or semi-annually. Using coupons you can cut down the price even further to test obtrix out. The coupon "onetimetorrent" gives you as much as a 50% one time discount, which gets the price down to 6.23usd. Now 6.23usd for 10GB Hard, 500GB Bandwidth and 3 active torrents, this is the best deal you will ever find. Lets say you are done testing it and go for the cheapest seedbox package by paying semi-annually(40usd), you could use another coupon(seed4life) which gives you a 20% discount for life. This lowers the amount to 32usd for 6 months. So each month costs you a mere 5.33usd. I am pretty sure there is nothing which comes up this far.

I did not expect much from obtrix for support but I was overwhelmed by their support. I did not receive the login details after I paid so I opened a support ticket and within a few minutes I got a response and the details were sent to me. I had used the one time discount coupon and I was very happy with what I had, so I was going to pay semi-annually. I asked for an opinion and refunded my full payment and my login was still active, I paid the semi-annual amount with the 20% discount coupon and it was almost a steal.

All in all obtrix is the best seedbox I have tested to date, if you are going for one I would suggest obtrix to you for its complete A+ service.

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