Softlayer Not Allowing Us To Cancel Server
Jun 9, 2008
we've been with Softlayer for a little over a year. The service has been good but their support has been a nightmare for us. There was a time that we were under a dos attack and they refused to do anything about it which is what forced us to switch.
But that's not the reason I'm here. My billing ends on the 12th, their terms require you cancel the server 3 days before billing ends. I pay manually each month by pay pal. I tried to cancel the server today, what I assumed was 3 days before the 12th and they told me I couldn't do it. That I had to pay for another full month. So I told them I just won't pay and they threatened me with a late fee. Is there anything legally these people can actually do to me if I don't pay? All they have is my contact information, I don't think they could submit to collections over that without my social security number.
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To make a long story short, as a consequence of the outage we lost some of our advertisers, and right now we cannot afford our old server. We decided well in advance to delete our server, so early this week we contacted the customer care and asked when we were supposed to enter the cancellation ticket to have our server removed before the billing date (June 22). We were told to post the ticket on July 19.
We did better than that. We posted the ticket shortly after this first chat. On July 19th, we went into servercommand, to find out that the cancellation ticket was no longer there. I rushed into the live chat, and was told that the ticket was lost because we had not posted it in orbit. Ok then, let me post it immediately in orbit then.
Well, unsurprisingly, Orbit was unavailable in that moment. We told the live chat tech, and basically we were left hanging on the chat for hours until we were able again to access the orbit system. the Live Chat person said she could not enter the ticket for us, so we had to wait for orbit to load for us again.
Well, guess what? Orbit loaded again for us, but exactly after the Midnight, so it was now effectively the 20th, no longer the 19th. Nice, uh? Do I smell something fishy here?
So, I went to the chat today, and here is the reply:
Quote:
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You have been connected to Daniel W.
Daniel W: Hello. How can I help you?
Customer: Hello, I need urgent help. It is the third time I am attempting to delete a server, and cancellation is sitll not going through as it should
Daniel W: ok, what is the account id and password? and the reason for cancellation?
Customer: <<snipped>>, H1 outage
Customer: I had sent another ticket more than 1 week agoi
Customer: but it went lost, for some reason
Customer: so I spent two hours a couple of days ago with one of your guys to send this other ticket
Customer: but I see that the cancellation date listed is July
Daniel W: Before I can transfer you to another department, I will need to confirm your account information. Please provide you Orbit/ServerCommand login and the last 4 characters of the password.
Customer: while we wanted an instant cancellation
Customer: <<snipped>> / xxxx
Daniel W has left the session.
Please wait while we find an agent from the Customer Service department to assist you.
You have been connected to Andrew S.
Andrew S: Hi! Thanks for conacting The Planet's Billing Care Team. May I please have your Login I.D. and last 4 characters of your password to Server Command or Orbit please. Please feel free to ask about our promotions
Andrew S: one minute
Andrew S: I am reading you last chaty
Customer: <<snipped>> / xxx
Customer: ah ok
Andrew S: Please give me a few minutes to look into this for you. Thank you.
Customer: thanks
Andrew S: I will have to get my accounting department to review this for you. It has a July date for cancellation because the server cancellation ticket was put in in less than 48 hours from the billing date.
Andrew S: I will have them review this issue for you.
Andrew S: How else may I assit you today ?
Customer: I sent another ticket days before, and it was lost. On July 19 I came to talk about this with one of your techs, and we were unable to access orbit
Customer: They said to wait until orbit was available again for us
Customer: This should all be saved in your logs, I hope
Customer: So, what should I wait for?
Andrew S: I am creating a ticket to the accounting department for them to give you an answer on the cancellation date
Andrew S: ok sir How else may I assist you today ?
Customer: Nothing else, thanks. We will be waiting for the reply.
Andrew S: Thank you for choosing The Planet again my name is Andrew and I hope you have a great day!
Thank you for using InstantService. You may now close this window.
Your session has ended. You may now close this window.
Not bad way to answer a customer who has been with theplanet for 7 years! Not only I am NOT bitching about the advertisers I lost because of the outage, since that's our fault, but I must also go through this strange - not to use another word - issue. I spent HOURS this week just to (not) being able to delete this server. I hope the fact of posting this on WebHostingTalk will help us and others in the future.
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