Site5 CPanel Borked For Three Days And Counting
Jun 29, 2008
[I am reposting this with some details after receiving some helpful advice from the Moderator.]
For three days now, key features of Site5's "SiteAdmin" cPanel wrapper have been broken, which has made it impossible to do any of the following:
1. Add Parked Domain
2. Add a Domain Pointer
3. Access or change DNS zone file
4. Turn Shell Access on or off
This has made it impossible to set up additional domains on most or all of their shared hosting accounts. The only way to accomplish any of the above tasks is by asking Site5 Tech Support to do it, but one Support rep told me yesterday, "I am sorry...but this cannot be done...there are too many tickets flooding in with the same request."
After having a Support ticket go almost 24 hours without a response of any kind, I got lucky very early this morning and spent 1 1/2 hours in a Live Chat with one of their Support reps, who, because of his knowledge and diligence was able to accomplish what I could not do via SiteAdmin/cPanel. But I seriously doubt that many others will be so lucky.
This apparently started when a cPanel update was applied fleet wide without properly testing it against Site5's SiteAdmin code.
Site5 has posted a notice of this problem at [url], but, even after three full days, they have posted nothing about a resolution.
I have posted a message to Site5 management at [url], but nobody in management has responded either publicly or privately.
Is the entire Site5 Management team on vacation?
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Nov 28, 2008
Virpus = Ticket 11 days old, started working on issue 6 days ago, no word for 4 days!
Thats Virpuss customer service and its plain silly.
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Jul 1, 2009
Although I can easily migrate the databases and website data, I am not certain what I should do with emails, as I have four clients whom all use emails.
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Oct 4, 2009
I'm at Pair.com since 2000.
I started a website in HTML, then by different CMS (SPIP, Joomla), and now I use several PHP shopping carts scripts (Virtuemart, CS-Cart). Currently I have 10 sites.
I NEVER had a hacking attempt in 9 years. None security concerns. No downtime more than 20 minutes. Cumulated over the last 9 years, all downtime are less than 4 hours.
You can check by yourself any downtime of any Pair.com server, because Pair.com downtime archives are easy to check, on-line and updated in real time:
[url]
My only concern is spam. When one of my email address catch too much of spam, I just need to close and open up a new address to defeat it (sorry, it's the easy way to fight with spam, but I'm not enough smart to setup SpamAssassin).
The speed of my shopping carts is great (I'm on a shared server).
That's why I stay at Pair.com: (for me) There's nothing better!
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Jul 25, 2008
I am having a downtime issue with VPSlink, the "low-cost" VPS service from Spry, specifically they have let me out in the cold for over 24h and counting, due to a hardware problem in the node I am hosted for about 2 months now.
In all truth, the service has been great (read outstanding for low-cost) until this day.
It's Spry with another name after all, and they insist in putting that reference in each and every page footer.
I know hardware problems are neither easy nor fast to fix, and given that they refuse to give an ETA, I have patiently only asked for a situation update each 12h.
No answer to the update so far, only the initial reply to the support ticket and a thread post describing the situation which dates from yesterday (~24h ago).
The thing that really annoys me is that they are taking new orders to the very same plan, and those new orders are being placed on a new working node.. Couldn't they just move the affected costumers to the other node while they are fixing the affected one, even if just temporarily?
Everyone should know what to expect from subscribing a "low-cost" service, even if it comes from Spry. Despite being "low-cost", keep this in mind, you can't subscribe a "low-cost" service without incidentally subscribing a service of some kind.. Service that hasn't been provided for over 24h.
Don't really know what your feelings are on this one, but I for once remembered Spry to be better than this. You can't honestly expect to put everywhere "VPSLink, a subsidiary of Spry" and don't expect people to draw some parallels..
My expectations were just a very low end box, totally self managed, that simply worked in the areas that aren't my responsibility. To me, in the hosting world 24h downtime is just way to much time to go without giving an update, no matter how low each one standards may be.
There is a difference between asking for patience and leaving people in the cold. Over 24h downtime tell the difference.
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Feb 22, 2008
Many ISPs assign dynamic IP addresses and I'm wondering if the following will be a problem for my site if it for example had 5 million all-time unique users:
So if someone new comes to my site with an IP that has already been in use by someone else who visited my site, that user will use the same databases with the previous user and won’t even be considered a unique in user.
Do dynamic ISP given IPs work so that someone else gets that IP once you release it?
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Aug 27, 2007
After my BuyAVPS and PrimaryVPS VPS' fell through, I decided to get a new
unmanaged (I manage it myself of course ) VPS from RockMyWeb.net
The specs are:
640MB guaranteed RAM, with 1.5GB RAM burstable
40GB HD space, with the 500GB monthly bandwidth on the faster 100MBPS port.
I think this plan has a dedicated amount of CPU that I can use, which seems to
be 100mHz per core (8).
My VPS was set up within 15 minutes of placing an order.
It performs great, I haven't had any issues with the performance. There were
some issues with downtime 9 days ago, but it was sorted out quickly.
As far as support goes, I have had a couple of questions here and there and
they have all been answered very quickly.
Over all I'm very happy with their services My VPS is used to provide small
hosting to about 20 or so people, and I have about 25 domains hosted on it
at present. Currently only using about 50GB bandwidth per month, but it's
steadily increasing.
One of my domains hosted with them: [url]
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Apr 5, 2008
I guess you can fugure my account expired with servage.
but to tell you the truth, I am so P OFF at them
I opened a ticket on my last day and asked if I can move it from 14 months (that I started with) to a 6 months renewal because I could'nt afford to pay the £74 they wanted, and apologised for this. They said I'd have to pay the 74 pounds first and then change my billing to 3 or 6 months.....
I replied saying can I then pay a sum now and a some next week. as I don't have that with me at the moment but wednesday 9th April I wil be able to remew it all
They replied with:
"Hello Ahmed
there is 14 days grace period for customers before account gets suspended."
So I thanked them very much, because like that, instead of paying in installments, I can just pay them the whole amount before the grace period was over, otherwise I would've backed up my data and moved it another server, or on my computer till I remew the whole amount....
5 days later (today), I log on to my account, and it has been suspended as I hav'nt paid for 5 days...thats 9 days before the "grace period"
and now all my domains have this dirty suspended page that they have, and I bet I lost half my members and customers like this, as when I see this page on any domain I enter I never go back to it!
I say to my self its my falt, I should've paid when I had to.....but money was tight, and I told them....and they gave me the 14 days, I did'nt ask for anything, but I thought backing up all my sites and my webdriver that I have with them would take me ages, plus the pages have alot of content that would be a hassle, if I have a "14 days grace period".
This is the first time servage have lied to my face, and not by answering a question with yes or no, by saying a feature they have that does'nt exist and but wednesday I bet all my customers and members would've found somewhere else to hang out, as I only contacted them through the mail server on the site and my forum, now I can't even right "we will be back soon....don't go away",
I thought I warn you guys about this grace, if you have an account with them make sure your ready to renew before it expires, and don't believe most of the stuff that they say.
OMG, I used to promote for these people, and tried hard to always say good stuff about them, you see my sig, it was a promotion for them with a coupon code (that I dredfully apologies about to the administration for not reading the rules properly), and I get in return a lie straight in my face with no warning and no way of accessing my database what so ever.
Just be warned Guys, don't believe everything they say to you and backup all the time because you never know why they suspend your account.....even if your on thew right track
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Mar 9, 2009
Just wondering if anyone else out there experienced several months of affiliate referrals being flushed out and simply disappearing recently (within the past two months), would be very interested in hearing from others that this may have occurred to.
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Jul 31, 2009
Site5 appears to have suffered a major DNS hit. DNS.SITE5.com and DNS2.SITE5.COM are both down, they respond to ping but not to any DNS lookups. All my sites/email are down. Even www.site5.com is dead.
I can FTP into my site's IP address and see all the files are there (whew) so hopefully once DNS comes back everything will be OK again.
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Aug 27, 2008
Thinking about migrating a couple of blogs over from blogger.com to a paid host, since I really want to migrate over to using wordpress. No, I do not want to use wordpress.com.
I've done a little research, and stumbled across site5.com and webhostingbuzz.com. I like them because they both have active user forums, and the basic hosting plans are very affordable, if you pay for a couple of years in advance. Site5.com seems to have gotten mixed reviews recently, since apparently they just merged with ThePlanet, guess that is another hosting company. Webhostingbuzz, interestingly enough, the servers are in the US, but the support is in the Ukraine. They have a really cheap price, potentially $3.95/month.
I've read through lots of online reviews and even this forum for advice. It's a bit overwhelming the amount of options out there. Just want to host a couple of blogs and small websites. And preferably, a cheap price, since I am hosting the sites right now for free on blogger.
Also considered hostgator.com, but they are a bit pricier.
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Oct 27, 2008
I have finally pulled the plug on Site5. Many of you know that they were in the process of migrating many of their older servers to hosting at ThePlanet. We got a notice on Sept 25 that ours was supposed to happen the week of Sept 29-Oct 3 (didn't happen!) and that ". One of the chat girls let it slip that we were migrated on Oct 10...(we weren't notified of our new IP!). As our old server "xxxxx.site5.com" was up and running, we didn't know of any trouble, and ran happily along with our site, updating databases, maintaining code, etc. Then they flipped the switch today on our old server. We were pretty much messed up for Friday afternoon through the weekend while we waited for them to finish their maintenance. The support guys who came in Monday A.M. tried to help, and explained that (unfortunately) both the new and the old servers had problems. I should say that they DID help. But it was too little too late.
Needless to say, I decided we'd had enough, as this was not our first issue with not getting support when we needed it...we migrated on Friday afternoon.
If you are looking for a good provider, search elsewhere, I'll be posting more info about where we went.
Site5 support is inadequate for the following reasons:
-support is only accessible by email or web form submission
-usually takes hours for a real person to respond even when subject includes the word "DOWN"
-customer is not able to escalate an issue, priority is at the whim of the responding technician.
I suggested some improvements to Brendan Diaz, CEO at Site5 after our last major ordeal in January. I think that they need to rethink and overhaul their support structure before they add any more clients to business hosting.
Good bye Site5, sorry it didn't work out.
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Apr 22, 2008
I did a search on this site, and read a lot of negative things about site5.com
Is it still a 'bad'company or has their service changed?
Is it better to take a hosting with hostgator.com
Because aren't they overselling their packages: 1500 gb (storage) and 15.000 gb (bandwithe)
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Aug 25, 2008
I'm hosting with site5.com now for over 2 years. I'm not so happy with them actually but was still working for me.
last days, I requested them to upgrade my account to PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x. (still have PHP 4.x and MySQL 4.x with them) allthough PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x is there for ages now, they told me they can't supply these to me. they gave me some long instructions to be able to use PHP 5.x but pehh...still no option for MySQL 5.x
is this normal ? this is seriously a nightmare for me as new scripts need PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x
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Aug 12, 2008
I don't know who the heck is running the show over at SITE5.COM But....
I've tried for a few days now to contact their support Dept and have gotten ZERO response from them.
I'm getting free hosting from a friend, who's got a reseller package from these guys. Servers are nice and fast, BUT, my stats are broken. I don't have a flippin' clue how much bandwidth I'm using.
I've contacted support. My host has, zero, zip, nada response.
anyone else noticed this?
Someone needs to tell Site5 to get their act together.
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Sep 18, 2008
Have been with Site5 since 2006 and last 2 months the support has significantly degraded. Had 3 outages and 2 out of three times it took them longer than 24 hours to respond.
Earlier this month web access to my sites was locked due to high resource utilization.
Again they didn't respond my proposed solution. My sites were down for two days as the result.
Migrated to a different hosting provider and asked for a refund since I just renewed my 2 year contract with them in July. Was told no refund is possible since I am not a new customer (they have 60 days money back for new sign ups). Will probably be settling this with the help of my credit card company.
Any one had a similar experience? Any tips on how to handle the case when you sign up for a long term and the hosting provider doesn't deliver on the promise?
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May 18, 2008
I first found out about Site5.com exactly 2 1/2 years ago on the WHT Forums. I remember reading all kinds of things about the quality of the host. I don't recall reading too many negative things. The hosting was great for the first year and a half. Support usually replied within the hour. Then I noticed my sites down more often than usual.
Yesterday I sent in a support ticket and I have yet to receive a response. It's now been 17 hours, and not even "we're looking into it". So, I did some research on Site5 on here and other places to find out that Site5.com has went down hill. Once a quality host is now just another ordinary "host". Just a look at their forums you can see how many problems their customers run into.
All I have to say is, if you're in the market for a web server host, I'd stay away. If you're already a customer of Site5 you may want to check the actual downtime your server has from month to month, and when you really need their tech support, they just may not respond..
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Jun 29, 2008
I have been with Site5 for several years, but will be moving shortly.
Having to wait over a day for support to email you back is getting really old. And then when they do, their response doesn't answer your question. They obviously can't read.
My latest problem is with the version of php they are running. I need 5.2.0 or better for cubecart 4.2. No problem Site5's wiki says about php:
Current Installations
Yes, we do have both versions installed and available to every single customer.
last updated: --Tom 12:35, 25 January 2008 (EDT)
Version 4.x: 4.4.7
Version 5.x: 5.2.1
EXCEPT on my server which has 5.1.2 and there are no plans to upgrade any time soon.
So the response I got was that I could install a more current version of php in my own account???? I am not a UNIX guru and seriously doubt I have all the rights I would need to install software on their servers.
Needless to say I am looking for a new hosting company. I have looked at Syn and am waiting for a response from them. I assume their sales staff doesn't work week-ends.
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Dec 11, 2008
I already have accounts at BlueHost and HostGator - quite fine
I must take another hosting service
Do you have good or bad experiences with:
Midphase: http://www.midphase.com
Site5: http://www.site5.com
Siteground: http://www.siteground.com
Lunarpages: http://www.lunarpages.com
HostIcan: http://www.hostican.com
I guess they are overselling. No problem
I need to set up many small websites (mostly affiliate marketing custom landing pages) + many sub-domains
Which one would you recommend?
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Apr 3, 2007
I'n my email today...
Quote:
My name is Todd Mitchell, I am Chief Operating Officer at Site5. We rarely send out company wide emails, so you can be sure that a very special announcement is necessitating this type of mass distribution! Today I have some remarkable news to share with you regarding Site5, your web hosting account(s) and a new partnership we've solidified over the last several months. We are proud to announce a new strategic partnership with The Planet (www.theplanet.com), a very well-respected infrastructure provider, which will soon be housing our server fleet and network in their state-of the-art, enterprise-level data center.
As I'm sure you're aware, Site5 is well known in the web hosting industry for a number of reasons:
- Site5 is innovative: Demonstrated in the research and development of Flashback, NetAdmin/SiteAdmin, Backstage and our stable web hosting platform.
- Site5 is transparent: Our weblog [url], forums [url] and corporate web site [url] are prime examples of our transparent nature and operation. We are upfront and honest about everything we do at Site5. Clients are family.
- Site5 has award winning support: Whether you contact our billing, sales or support groups you are guaranteed a high level of customer service. We pride ourselves on our 24 x 7 in-house support group. Site5 does not outsource and that makes a difference.
We are building upon those core competencies by focusing our efforts on improving our server hardware, data center and network via this new business relationship. Throughout our continued growth we have added value to every aspect of our hosting platform without increasing prices to clients, and this announcement is certainly not an exception.
Site5 Internet Solutions, Inc. (one of the largest and fastest growing web hosting providers in North America) and The Planet.com Internet Services, Inc. (the largest dedicated hosting / infrastructure provider in North America) have come together to form a mutually-beneficial partnership. We have selected The Planet to be Site5's sole data center, hardware and network provider after evaluating several other data center providers relative to our current hardware infrastructure. Following months of meetings, several on-site data center/ hardware evaluations, and a significant amount of consideration for our clients, we selected The Planet because they maintain a great support structure, the best hardware quality, and a shared desire to help Site5 provide the best hosting experience in the industry.
How will this affect you?
- Name brand servers: Our entire infrastructure will be migrated to enterprise level Dell servers custom made and tested specifically for Site5.
- Hardware upgrades: Every single server in our existing fleet will be upgraded to new hardware! We are standardizing our fleet on dual core Intel Xeon processors and large redundant and fast RAID arrays.
- Network upgrades: The Planet over the last several years has built out a substantial network. Rated #2 in North America, their network is resilient, reliable and redundant at all points. This network upgrade will ensure that your visitors and clients can access your web site(s) 24 x 7 without interruption and we will be able to guarantee that your pages will load exceptionally fast.
This new partnership is a substantial commitment for The Planet and Site5. Both companies employ exceptional people and this partnership is just a glimpse of great things to come from Site5 over the next 12 months. We are committed to keeping you informed and we will continue to send emails with pertinent information regarding this new partnership. Please keep an eye out for our emails and remember if you think you've missed an email, all notices and information will be reposted on our official forums - [url]. The official press release regarding our new partnership will be released to financial analysts and news wire services on Tuesday April 3rd, 2007.
We hope this news is as exciting for you as it is for us. As we finalize the migration details for each server, we will post forum updates with all of the information you will need about your server's move and how/when your account will be upgraded. Thousands of people have been a part of the Site5 community for years, and we continue to see record growth, so we wanted to be sure that this move would help express our gratitude for your business.
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May 25, 2009
I'm trying to transfer a site(that I did not create) that is written in PHP4 and uses global variables from MediaTemple as we have been having extremely slow performance over the last 6 months. The site is database drive and uses an SSL certificate with PayQuake to handle membership.
We tried MediaLayer but had too many problems. Then I placed a copy of my own test site on Site5 and it all worked great. So, we created a new account and are trying to move the code over there.
Basically, I have functions (accordion menus) and a search function (the form isn't passing the field to the action URL) that are not working. Site5 isn't being very helpful. I'm getting extremely frustrated.
And yes, I know I should get rid of the globals but it's a complicated site and we want to get it moved before we start messing with the code.
Is there a webhosting company out there that is helpful in getting these kinds of weird issues straightened out? Or do I just need to slog through? I'm a programmer (ASP, .NET, Java, PHP) but my weakness is in configuration of servers - the whole hardware/network side of things so I'm not great with the intricacies of web server hosting.
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Aug 15, 2008
I currently have hosting with Site5 (started back before all the overselling), and although my sites are very low in traffic and don't take up much space, I am running up against their 25,000 per site inode limit, due to my hosting a Gallery2 photo album on one of the sites (as I understand, the base install of Gallery2 uses 14,000 inodes alone. Due to how my album is integrated with the rest of the site, it would require hours and hours to switch to something besides Gallery2). All the sites together have used 17 GB of bandwidth so far this month, although much of that has been me uploading stuff to one of the sites to set it up.
Here are my sites:
- Site#1 is a family site, with family photos and a Wordpress blog. Very low traffic (a handful of visits a day), but lots of photos. Inodes not a problem for now (I'm at about 13,000), as unlike one of the other sites, I was able to switch to Zenphoto from Gallery2 pretty easily.
- Site#2 is the newest and fastest growing. It is a site for a small community of people who play a particular online computer game. It runs Drupal, and has about 60 members now, but 5-10 have been joining a day. Most online at one time has been 10. I get anywhere from 30-60 visits a day, but growing. The site uses about 150 MB of storage right now, and this will grow. No photo albums here.
- Site#3 (running Joomla and Gallery2) is for my own gaming group of 8 people that play the above computer game together each week online. Low traffic, but this is the site with the inode problem, as I post screenshots in Gallery2 after each session. Around 25,000 inodes, and 6.5 GB of storage used on the server.
- Site#4 is my wedding site, running on Wordpress. It only gets a handful of visits each day, and will get almost none after the wedding in mid September. No photo album here.
- Site#5 is my fiance's site (running Joomla), which she has pretty much not touched in a year and I doubt anyone visits, but I'm too much of a coward to take down.
With that in mind, I'm wondering what my best solution would be:
- Switch to a VPS, and if so, what kind and who?
- Switch to a different shared host with a higher inode limit
- Stay with Site5 and take the time to farm out the photo album somewhere off the site, or to another program like Zenphoto with a lower footprint.
I'm a tech-geek wannabe and willing to learn. I'm paying about $10 a month (I think) and could probably go as high as $30 or so.
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Jan 24, 2009
My site is down for about 4 days now. The hosting company's website support area is not accessible either. I do not have access to phpmyadmin. No one from the company is contacting me to let me know what the problem is. What can I do to bring my site back to life again?
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Aug 1, 2008
I want everyone to know that the purpose of this post is to ask for help, and nothing else.
I bought a VPS from VerityNet one night. The next afternoon,I found out that my server was not setup yet and I had to call in for it to be manually setup. Great! Now I can get going, except for some reason I am not able to login to their PPP (Parallels Power Panel) and not able to login via Remote Desktop with the username and password supplied in the e-mail. So, I called in and told them I was not able to login, so he suggested a password reset. He said he would send me the new password via e-mail, but it took almost until next morning (Today). I tried to login using the new password for both Remote Desktop and PPP and it has failed to work, again. Next, I went back on their website to pull up the 1800 number to call them (By the way, this is the SAME number that I used Yesterday.).
When I dialed that number, it saids "This mail box does not exist".
What should I do at this point?
A) Stay with them, and try to work things out.
B) Get a refund
C) Stay with them, and ask for compensation for the 3 days.
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Jun 7, 2007
Today I noticed huge bandwidth usage on one of my site. This site is a picture site and average bandwidth usage was about 2 - 3 GB / day. But during last 4-5 days, this site has use more than 200GB of bandwidth.
After going thru the logs, I find that an email (or more than one) is in circulation having hotlinks to almost all the images (over 2000 high quality pictures) in one email.
This email has been send to thousands of ppl by some group / person. Now these emails blowup all my bandwidth without any page view / ads being served. I was really horrified to see this. In panic I renamed the folder holding the pictures and changed all my html files pointing to new folder.
But this does not seem to be the solution. Again someone could do the same thing again and again. Further, if I am changing the folder / location of pictures, I don't know if it will affect indexing of images by goggle images as this is a main source of visitor at my site.
Can I do something to stop this miss-use? I really lost money due to this over usage. How can I make sure that this thing is not repeated with my site?
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Jul 26, 2007
It seems there's a shake-up going on in the VPS business, first BuyaVPS has issues with network, X1services with Cpanel problems, PrimaryVPS not responding for 9 hours, myVPShost downtimes, SolarVPS double-billing, the list just goes on and on.
I've only seen 2 good reviews lately: Wiredtree.com and Imountain.com. JaguarPC gets good comments and that Rocksomething company does too.
What's up with the OTHER providers? Please post your postive reviews with any companies you are with right now. Please don't post any more negative ones, there are too many already
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