Site5 Moving To ThePlanet Datacenter
Apr 3, 2007
I'n my email today...
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My name is Todd Mitchell, I am Chief Operating Officer at Site5. We rarely send out company wide emails, so you can be sure that a very special announcement is necessitating this type of mass distribution! Today I have some remarkable news to share with you regarding Site5, your web hosting account(s) and a new partnership we've solidified over the last several months. We are proud to announce a new strategic partnership with The Planet (www.theplanet.com), a very well-respected infrastructure provider, which will soon be housing our server fleet and network in their state-of the-art, enterprise-level data center.
As I'm sure you're aware, Site5 is well known in the web hosting industry for a number of reasons:
- Site5 is innovative: Demonstrated in the research and development of Flashback, NetAdmin/SiteAdmin, Backstage and our stable web hosting platform.
- Site5 is transparent: Our weblog [url], forums [url] and corporate web site [url] are prime examples of our transparent nature and operation. We are upfront and honest about everything we do at Site5. Clients are family.
- Site5 has award winning support: Whether you contact our billing, sales or support groups you are guaranteed a high level of customer service. We pride ourselves on our 24 x 7 in-house support group. Site5 does not outsource and that makes a difference.
We are building upon those core competencies by focusing our efforts on improving our server hardware, data center and network via this new business relationship. Throughout our continued growth we have added value to every aspect of our hosting platform without increasing prices to clients, and this announcement is certainly not an exception.
Site5 Internet Solutions, Inc. (one of the largest and fastest growing web hosting providers in North America) and The Planet.com Internet Services, Inc. (the largest dedicated hosting / infrastructure provider in North America) have come together to form a mutually-beneficial partnership. We have selected The Planet to be Site5's sole data center, hardware and network provider after evaluating several other data center providers relative to our current hardware infrastructure. Following months of meetings, several on-site data center/ hardware evaluations, and a significant amount of consideration for our clients, we selected The Planet because they maintain a great support structure, the best hardware quality, and a shared desire to help Site5 provide the best hosting experience in the industry.
How will this affect you?
- Name brand servers: Our entire infrastructure will be migrated to enterprise level Dell servers custom made and tested specifically for Site5.
- Hardware upgrades: Every single server in our existing fleet will be upgraded to new hardware! We are standardizing our fleet on dual core Intel Xeon processors and large redundant and fast RAID arrays.
- Network upgrades: The Planet over the last several years has built out a substantial network. Rated #2 in North America, their network is resilient, reliable and redundant at all points. This network upgrade will ensure that your visitors and clients can access your web site(s) 24 x 7 without interruption and we will be able to guarantee that your pages will load exceptionally fast.
This new partnership is a substantial commitment for The Planet and Site5. Both companies employ exceptional people and this partnership is just a glimpse of great things to come from Site5 over the next 12 months. We are committed to keeping you informed and we will continue to send emails with pertinent information regarding this new partnership. Please keep an eye out for our emails and remember if you think you've missed an email, all notices and information will be reposted on our official forums - [url]. The official press release regarding our new partnership will be released to financial analysts and news wire services on Tuesday April 3rd, 2007.
We hope this news is as exciting for you as it is for us. As we finalize the migration details for each server, we will post forum updates with all of the information you will need about your server's move and how/when your account will be upgraded. Thousands of people have been a part of the Site5 community for years, and we continue to see record growth, so we wanted to be sure that this move would help express our gratitude for your business.
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Mar 26, 2008
Has anyone else been having big latency issues with ThePlanet (EV1 Houston 1 or 2) datacenter?
I called and they said they are having issues which was causing slow connection. If this was the case there would be at least some threads going on in here about it. Anyone else can confirm?
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Apr 30, 2007
Does anyone have any suggestions on how you would physically move servers from one datacenter to another with minimal downtime?
The IP address is going to change, so the server will go off and then come back online with a new ip.
Just how much downtime is acceptable before customers get annoyed?
When is the best time to do it?
Move them yourself or courier or any other ways?
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Jul 22, 2008
Scenario: Our website has 3 terabytes of data (photos, database files, etc).
1. How does one move all of this data from one hosting company to another?
2. How does this typically work? Does it involve buying the actual disks?
3. Does this need to be specified in a contract that's signed with the hosting company?
Copying it over the Internet (ftp, sftp, or http) is not an option.
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Mar 9, 2009
Just wondering if anyone else out there experienced several months of affiliate referrals being flushed out and simply disappearing recently (within the past two months), would be very interested in hearing from others that this may have occurred to.
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Jul 31, 2009
Site5 appears to have suffered a major DNS hit. DNS.SITE5.com and DNS2.SITE5.COM are both down, they respond to ping but not to any DNS lookups. All my sites/email are down. Even www.site5.com is dead.
I can FTP into my site's IP address and see all the files are there (whew) so hopefully once DNS comes back everything will be OK again.
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Aug 27, 2008
Thinking about migrating a couple of blogs over from blogger.com to a paid host, since I really want to migrate over to using wordpress. No, I do not want to use wordpress.com.
I've done a little research, and stumbled across site5.com and webhostingbuzz.com. I like them because they both have active user forums, and the basic hosting plans are very affordable, if you pay for a couple of years in advance. Site5.com seems to have gotten mixed reviews recently, since apparently they just merged with ThePlanet, guess that is another hosting company. Webhostingbuzz, interestingly enough, the servers are in the US, but the support is in the Ukraine. They have a really cheap price, potentially $3.95/month.
I've read through lots of online reviews and even this forum for advice. It's a bit overwhelming the amount of options out there. Just want to host a couple of blogs and small websites. And preferably, a cheap price, since I am hosting the sites right now for free on blogger.
Also considered hostgator.com, but they are a bit pricier.
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Oct 27, 2008
I have finally pulled the plug on Site5. Many of you know that they were in the process of migrating many of their older servers to hosting at ThePlanet. We got a notice on Sept 25 that ours was supposed to happen the week of Sept 29-Oct 3 (didn't happen!) and that ". One of the chat girls let it slip that we were migrated on Oct 10...(we weren't notified of our new IP!). As our old server "xxxxx.site5.com" was up and running, we didn't know of any trouble, and ran happily along with our site, updating databases, maintaining code, etc. Then they flipped the switch today on our old server. We were pretty much messed up for Friday afternoon through the weekend while we waited for them to finish their maintenance. The support guys who came in Monday A.M. tried to help, and explained that (unfortunately) both the new and the old servers had problems. I should say that they DID help. But it was too little too late.
Needless to say, I decided we'd had enough, as this was not our first issue with not getting support when we needed it...we migrated on Friday afternoon.
If you are looking for a good provider, search elsewhere, I'll be posting more info about where we went.
Site5 support is inadequate for the following reasons:
-support is only accessible by email or web form submission
-usually takes hours for a real person to respond even when subject includes the word "DOWN"
-customer is not able to escalate an issue, priority is at the whim of the responding technician.
I suggested some improvements to Brendan Diaz, CEO at Site5 after our last major ordeal in January. I think that they need to rethink and overhaul their support structure before they add any more clients to business hosting.
Good bye Site5, sorry it didn't work out.
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Apr 22, 2008
I did a search on this site, and read a lot of negative things about site5.com
Is it still a 'bad'company or has their service changed?
Is it better to take a hosting with hostgator.com
Because aren't they overselling their packages: 1500 gb (storage) and 15.000 gb (bandwithe)
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Aug 25, 2008
I'm hosting with site5.com now for over 2 years. I'm not so happy with them actually but was still working for me.
last days, I requested them to upgrade my account to PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x. (still have PHP 4.x and MySQL 4.x with them) allthough PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x is there for ages now, they told me they can't supply these to me. they gave me some long instructions to be able to use PHP 5.x but pehh...still no option for MySQL 5.x
is this normal ? this is seriously a nightmare for me as new scripts need PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x
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Aug 12, 2008
I don't know who the heck is running the show over at SITE5.COM But....
I've tried for a few days now to contact their support Dept and have gotten ZERO response from them.
I'm getting free hosting from a friend, who's got a reseller package from these guys. Servers are nice and fast, BUT, my stats are broken. I don't have a flippin' clue how much bandwidth I'm using.
I've contacted support. My host has, zero, zip, nada response.
anyone else noticed this?
Someone needs to tell Site5 to get their act together.
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Sep 18, 2008
Have been with Site5 since 2006 and last 2 months the support has significantly degraded. Had 3 outages and 2 out of three times it took them longer than 24 hours to respond.
Earlier this month web access to my sites was locked due to high resource utilization.
Again they didn't respond my proposed solution. My sites were down for two days as the result.
Migrated to a different hosting provider and asked for a refund since I just renewed my 2 year contract with them in July. Was told no refund is possible since I am not a new customer (they have 60 days money back for new sign ups). Will probably be settling this with the help of my credit card company.
Any one had a similar experience? Any tips on how to handle the case when you sign up for a long term and the hosting provider doesn't deliver on the promise?
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May 18, 2008
I first found out about Site5.com exactly 2 1/2 years ago on the WHT Forums. I remember reading all kinds of things about the quality of the host. I don't recall reading too many negative things. The hosting was great for the first year and a half. Support usually replied within the hour. Then I noticed my sites down more often than usual.
Yesterday I sent in a support ticket and I have yet to receive a response. It's now been 17 hours, and not even "we're looking into it". So, I did some research on Site5 on here and other places to find out that Site5.com has went down hill. Once a quality host is now just another ordinary "host". Just a look at their forums you can see how many problems their customers run into.
All I have to say is, if you're in the market for a web server host, I'd stay away. If you're already a customer of Site5 you may want to check the actual downtime your server has from month to month, and when you really need their tech support, they just may not respond..
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Jun 29, 2008
I have been with Site5 for several years, but will be moving shortly.
Having to wait over a day for support to email you back is getting really old. And then when they do, their response doesn't answer your question. They obviously can't read.
My latest problem is with the version of php they are running. I need 5.2.0 or better for cubecart 4.2. No problem Site5's wiki says about php:
Current Installations
Yes, we do have both versions installed and available to every single customer.
last updated: --Tom 12:35, 25 January 2008 (EDT)
Version 4.x: 4.4.7
Version 5.x: 5.2.1
EXCEPT on my server which has 5.1.2 and there are no plans to upgrade any time soon.
So the response I got was that I could install a more current version of php in my own account???? I am not a UNIX guru and seriously doubt I have all the rights I would need to install software on their servers.
Needless to say I am looking for a new hosting company. I have looked at Syn and am waiting for a response from them. I assume their sales staff doesn't work week-ends.
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Dec 11, 2008
I already have accounts at BlueHost and HostGator - quite fine
I must take another hosting service
Do you have good or bad experiences with:
Midphase: http://www.midphase.com
Site5: http://www.site5.com
Siteground: http://www.siteground.com
Lunarpages: http://www.lunarpages.com
HostIcan: http://www.hostican.com
I guess they are overselling. No problem
I need to set up many small websites (mostly affiliate marketing custom landing pages) + many sub-domains
Which one would you recommend?
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Jul 1, 2009
Although I can easily migrate the databases and website data, I am not certain what I should do with emails, as I have four clients whom all use emails.
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May 25, 2009
I'm trying to transfer a site(that I did not create) that is written in PHP4 and uses global variables from MediaTemple as we have been having extremely slow performance over the last 6 months. The site is database drive and uses an SSL certificate with PayQuake to handle membership.
We tried MediaLayer but had too many problems. Then I placed a copy of my own test site on Site5 and it all worked great. So, we created a new account and are trying to move the code over there.
Basically, I have functions (accordion menus) and a search function (the form isn't passing the field to the action URL) that are not working. Site5 isn't being very helpful. I'm getting extremely frustrated.
And yes, I know I should get rid of the globals but it's a complicated site and we want to get it moved before we start messing with the code.
Is there a webhosting company out there that is helpful in getting these kinds of weird issues straightened out? Or do I just need to slog through? I'm a programmer (ASP, .NET, Java, PHP) but my weakness is in configuration of servers - the whole hardware/network side of things so I'm not great with the intricacies of web server hosting.
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Jun 29, 2008
[I am reposting this with some details after receiving some helpful advice from the Moderator.]
For three days now, key features of Site5's "SiteAdmin" cPanel wrapper have been broken, which has made it impossible to do any of the following:
1. Add Parked Domain
2. Add a Domain Pointer
3. Access or change DNS zone file
4. Turn Shell Access on or off
This has made it impossible to set up additional domains on most or all of their shared hosting accounts. The only way to accomplish any of the above tasks is by asking Site5 Tech Support to do it, but one Support rep told me yesterday, "I am sorry...but this cannot be done...there are too many tickets flooding in with the same request."
After having a Support ticket go almost 24 hours without a response of any kind, I got lucky very early this morning and spent 1 1/2 hours in a Live Chat with one of their Support reps, who, because of his knowledge and diligence was able to accomplish what I could not do via SiteAdmin/cPanel. But I seriously doubt that many others will be so lucky.
This apparently started when a cPanel update was applied fleet wide without properly testing it against Site5's SiteAdmin code.
Site5 has posted a notice of this problem at [url], but, even after three full days, they have posted nothing about a resolution.
I have posted a message to Site5 management at [url], but nobody in management has responded either publicly or privately.
Is the entire Site5 Management team on vacation?
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Aug 15, 2008
I currently have hosting with Site5 (started back before all the overselling), and although my sites are very low in traffic and don't take up much space, I am running up against their 25,000 per site inode limit, due to my hosting a Gallery2 photo album on one of the sites (as I understand, the base install of Gallery2 uses 14,000 inodes alone. Due to how my album is integrated with the rest of the site, it would require hours and hours to switch to something besides Gallery2). All the sites together have used 17 GB of bandwidth so far this month, although much of that has been me uploading stuff to one of the sites to set it up.
Here are my sites:
- Site#1 is a family site, with family photos and a Wordpress blog. Very low traffic (a handful of visits a day), but lots of photos. Inodes not a problem for now (I'm at about 13,000), as unlike one of the other sites, I was able to switch to Zenphoto from Gallery2 pretty easily.
- Site#2 is the newest and fastest growing. It is a site for a small community of people who play a particular online computer game. It runs Drupal, and has about 60 members now, but 5-10 have been joining a day. Most online at one time has been 10. I get anywhere from 30-60 visits a day, but growing. The site uses about 150 MB of storage right now, and this will grow. No photo albums here.
- Site#3 (running Joomla and Gallery2) is for my own gaming group of 8 people that play the above computer game together each week online. Low traffic, but this is the site with the inode problem, as I post screenshots in Gallery2 after each session. Around 25,000 inodes, and 6.5 GB of storage used on the server.
- Site#4 is my wedding site, running on Wordpress. It only gets a handful of visits each day, and will get almost none after the wedding in mid September. No photo album here.
- Site#5 is my fiance's site (running Joomla), which she has pretty much not touched in a year and I doubt anyone visits, but I'm too much of a coward to take down.
With that in mind, I'm wondering what my best solution would be:
- Switch to a VPS, and if so, what kind and who?
- Switch to a different shared host with a higher inode limit
- Stay with Site5 and take the time to farm out the photo album somewhere off the site, or to another program like Zenphoto with a lower footprint.
I'm a tech-geek wannabe and willing to learn. I'm paying about $10 a month (I think) and could probably go as high as $30 or so.
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Dec 8, 2008
ThePlanet vs.......... ?
I just ordered a Dual Xeon 3.2, 4GB RAM, 2X 250GB SATA server from ThePlanet and it ...sucks. This damn thing doesn't even want to run a single UrbanTerror server ( which mind you is an 8 year old game that should be running like BUTTER on this system )every 5 minutes this thing lags out like you wouldn't believe, so it seems I'm wasting nearly 200 month on nothing but a web host now, which isn't something I need to do. ThePlanet of course doesn't support any of this, not that I asked them to, I just told them this box sucks and something is wrong, but they don't really care it seems, so I'm looking for another place, does anyone have any good recommendations ?
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Sep 8, 2008
I have dedicated server P4 3.2 Ghz with ThePlanet for 4 years now. Since I want to upgrade a server I started to think if it will be good idea to change to the Rackspace.
They offer AMD Opteron 246 for pretty much same price I am getting my P4 3.2 Ghz at ThePlanet. Is it faster processor?
I do not need faster CPU, I want to upgrade Hard drive but if I am getting faster CPU it's good.
Several points here.
1. I can not complain about ThePlanet. Never had a problem. And whenever I had opened ticket they were answered in time I expected.
2. I need a good/fast network.
Should I switch?
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Jul 15, 2008
I am going to begin a social network and for the beginning I just need 100 gb hard disk, 2 ram, 200 TB monthly. I need a web hosting with potential for big traffic and scalability in the near future.
I have read what people from big social networks have said about both companies and they can handle big traffic, though mediatemple has better ranked costumers than the plannet according to Alexa (I checked one by one of their big clients in Alexa.)
My website is going to be about video streaming, webcam streaming and other common things in social networks.
What do you recommend? Do you have a better company in mind that can handle big traffic and scalability?
My budget is between 500 up to 800 monthly?
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May 19, 2008
I definitely like ThePlanet. They have good support and goot network.
But seems I need to know more from the world.
So could anyone please tell me another DCs that can be compared with TP *in full* (i.e. not "good support but bad network" - "good" should be both).
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May 8, 2009
ThePlanet did a mailout the other day about their servers in UK. Does anyone have servers there? Good pings?
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Nov 5, 2008
ThePlanet / Softlayer
Does anyone know of any hosters that are reselling servers from The Planet or Softlayer (or anyone else is Texas that I've missed)
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Jun 25, 2008
A few days ago my server started to receive a bunch of Input/Output errors. I scrambled all over Google to find out what the problem could be and most pointed to a failing hard drive.
I contacted ThePlanet roughly 4 hours after I first saw the problem and they recommended that run a few diagnostic programs on the hard drive to find out if there were any problems. I agreed and we picked a good 4 hour time frame to do the work.
Luckily for me this was the 2nd hdd on the server, but the downside was its a 200GB that I am using 165GB. So I tried to do backups and at about 35% done, the 2nd hdd became virtually unaccessible.
ThePlanet started the diagnostic at roughly 12:00pm PST and updated me nearly every 10 minutes on the progress. At 12:50 they indicated that the hdd diagnostic wasn't able to find any problems, then rebooted the server. I'm not sure what they did, but after the server came back up after roughly 5 minutes the 2nd hdd is working perfectly fine.
So i'd like to send out some praise as i'm very happy that the hdd is working again, and I'm happy with the updates and professionalism with ThePlanet.
I've had some rough times with ThePlanet, but the majority of my situations have been resolved in a timely and professional manner. Thanks again TP for saving my butt!
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Oct 25, 2009
If I have to choose between ThePlanet and SoftLayer for a dedicated server which will be used for Shared Hosting, which one should I choose?
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Jul 2, 2006
I have partners down in Dallas, Tx. that are deciding on whether or not they want to go with "ThePlanet" datacenter. But, we just want to know before purchasing any or keeping any servers there that the datacenter is fully equipped with 24/7 monitoring, fire safety, flood safety, backup generators, etc. We're thinking of leasing 2 servers there, and we just need to know some details before going on. Now, I know there's all that information on the website and I've done alot of research on them, but I want to know from WHT's first-hand experience of ThePlanet is any good.
So, if you've used ThePlanet datacenters, can you please help me out. I'm highly suggesting ThePlanet as one of the datacenters I might use. Because it's located in Dallas, TX. it would be alot easier to co-locate the server, or check up on it once and a while or sort out any problems, etc.
Please leave a message of your first-hand experience with this datacenter.
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Apr 5, 2009
We push out a lot of data from our customers a month. So i was wondering which one is better? ThePlanet or Softlayer?
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Jun 8, 2009
First off thank you WHT for providing these forums and please forgive me for my first post being a huge rant!
We have contacted ThePlanet multiple times with DMCA requests to have a website remove illegal copies of our software from their website. The website is (*****.com *removed link*), and ThePlanet hosts them.
This issue has been ongoing for over 10 days, our original DMCA from them was ignored.
We resent another on Tue June 2, 2009, that one was responded to. Either no one from ThePlanet bothered to visit the warez website or they encourage warez on their networks because the website is still up; they initially removed links to our software but added new ones hours later.
We contacted ThePlanet again hours later with our email again to be disregarded. We sent another reply last Friday, ThePlanet responded back that our email was not in proper DMCA format; but do not bother to see the entire website is nothing but warez. Do these guys just not care that warez is on their network? I didn't realize the economy has gotten so bad they now cater to warez websites.
Visit the website and see that is has full ISO copies of Windows and other software, has full dvdrip movies and copies of games, as well as crack patches and keygenerators.
Why is it that ThePlanet allows these websites to operate and that their AUP is a total joke? Obviously if you want to distribute warez ThePlanet seems like the best place to do it.
We also hosted our websites on ThePlanet but intend to cancel service with them due to this issue. I encourage anyone that is a software developer and uses ThePlanet to also dump their service.
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Aug 12, 2008
I have two dedicated linux servers with the planet and about an hour ago as I was testing a site on one I noticed it got terribly slow. I'm lazy sometimes and just assumed that I could fix the problem with a reboot so I went typed in the control panel address that ThePlanet.com uses for clients.
Behold, nothing. The site won't load and I noticed that theplanet.com won't load either. I am able to access my site still but its very slow, is anyone else noticing this? Is it a problem with my ISP?
My site - [url]
ThePlanet - [url]
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