R1soft Backup
Aug 2, 2008
R1Soft is a backup “solution” aimed at companies that want to backup only the changes that have been made since the last time a backup was created. Its a good idea, but it went horribly wrong. I am writing about it today because it was such a poor experience working with them and we had so many server problems and REPEATED DATA LOSS that I felt compelled to warn other hosting companies and customers about this extremely poor product.
R1soft caused enormous I/O load that literally killed our servers off and on multiple occasions simply would not restore our data and caused 100% data loss on the servers we had “backed up”.
MAJOR TECHNICAL DEFICIENCIES AND OPERATIONAL ISSUES WITH R1SOFT -
1) Buagent (Their software that records what has changed) is a HUGE i/o pig. It constantly blocks on I/O when there are changes causing every other drive or array in our system to lag while it catches up. R1soft told me it “works great” and to send them over details and they would “Look into it”.
2) Buserver (Their software that writes what has changed) is INCREDIBLY slow in every way that it is virtually unusable when you have a lot of data to back up with tens of thousands block changes every day per server. Clearly it hasn’t been tested well under sustained and real heavy load - at least in my opinion. There are multiple kernel and userspace methods to speed this up, but again it falls flat on its face when trying to keep up with our load.
3) Restores are buggy and VERY unreliable. We have attempted more than 20 restores (whole partitions) and had more than 30% be a complete failure, meaning TOTAL data loss. Doing user level restores were the same story - incomplete backups, unreliable and SLOW restores.
4) R1soft support is lackluster to say the least. When I complained they said, “You only opened 17 tickets in the last 60 days.” 17 tickets? Often when we had issues doing a restore or other problems we would call and get no one to answer the phone. Its comforting to know that when you can’t do a restore for 500 clients that we can possibly talk to someone on Monday who will blow us off and tell us that the newest version of the software MIGHT fix our issue. In the meantime they apologized for losing all our data over and over again. Wonderful.
5) The software is based on filesystem block changes. The problem is that the kernel and ext3 and reiser are changing all the time. As we made updates it constantly broke R1soft. When they would finally fix the problem it usually required us to reseed the entire backup again losing everything that we had previously backed up and putting enormous load on the server again while it started over from scratch
In all my years of hosting I have never had such a bad experience with a “partner” company as R1soft.
Just thought I would let other potential customers and hosting companies know my experience.
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Jun 7, 2009
I am currently moving my accounts to providers that use R1Soft as a backup solution. This is a security measure, but I am planning to use it as a marketing point too.
An after purchasing a backup account from Steadfast that includes support for R1Soft (and learning to use it), I am planning to resell their product.
Those ideas sound good, but is R1Soft software really as good as it looks like? Some years ago i had a problem with a very known (and trustable) VPS provider. After having a hard disk crash, they told that their Virtuozzo based backups weren't reliable, so I lost some data.
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Sep 10, 2009
if anyone here is using Steadfast R1Soft CDP Backup for his servers and if it's truly working for him when a restore is needed and whether is causes a noticeable load or not?
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Oct 5, 2008
what backup solution you all use. We plan on starting to use a backup solution but was wondering what the best one is. R1Soft seems to be pretty popular and I was wondering where all of you guys get your licenses from them. Also if anyone knows how much does a license for 1 backup server and 2 agent servers cost. I see it is like $500.00 at R1Soft directly but is that the only way to get it. Also is R1Soft very good? Please rate it 1 -10 in your reply.
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Mar 26, 2009
I have several servers and i want to provide at my servers a continuos backup data protection and disaster recovery backups to a off-site location using R1Soft software.
So does anyone knows any good and reliable company who provides the service off making backups from external servers using R1Soft?
I have been looking around and until know i found:
The Planet - Here i can buy any kind of server and havint installed with R1Soft for a extra cost of 50$
SteadFast - Here i can rent a full managed backup service using Steadfast Off-Site R1Soft CDP Backups described at: [url]
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Dec 8, 2008
I have recently had to set up all my backups again (add me to the ranks of disappointed bqinternet customers). I choose to go with Handy Networks - and I am SO very happy I did. The got all my servers set up quickly and correctly, but the most impressive thing was the communication - it is one of the best support experiences I have had in this industry. Not only on the initial set up, but even the questions i had afterward - they went above and beyond in their answers.
I know companies get ripped all the time on here for bad support - just wanted to give a little praise!
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Aug 20, 2008
Does someone know any other company besides fxhbackup and bqinternet that sells backup services based on R1Soft CDP?
My current solution is constantly giving broken pipe lines error. I was told this is because of overloaded backup servers. I did had my own CDP server running on the same DC and it worked like a charm, but currently my provider says it will not support it anymore and its terrible slow on his CDP server, besides it breaks backup.
Can someone point me one a CDP solution that works?
Has someone had experience with Acronis True Echo Server Enterprise?
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May 16, 2009
Can anyone recommend a provider/reseller either in the UK or US?
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Sep 22, 2009
Looking for advice on a solid R1Soft setup.
I'm currently looking at this SAS Expander:
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Looking to load it with 16 x 500GB WD Green drives with two spares on hand. Not sure which RAID level, RAID 5,10,50,60
No matter what I use with that many drives I get huge capacity. This is the controller card I was looking at using as well for the direct attachment:
Adaptec 2228800-R PCI Express SATA / SAS (Serial Attached SCSI) 5445 Kit Controller Card
I was going to use a Dell PE 860 to bring it all together. What are your thoughts, opinions, suggestions for a proper or recommended R1Soft setup?
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Dec 10, 2008
where is the place to get backups utilizing R1Soft.
Something we are looking at and wondering as to what would be the best companie/s to have your backups at.
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Mar 1, 2009
Anyone have any experience using R1Soft in a virtualized environment as the VPS provider rather than the VPS user?
I'm wanting to offer some solid bare metal backup. It is generally difficult to do sound backup procedures in dom0, since can sometimes suffer file corruption when backing up running domUs from outside of them, and I use LVM drives rather than disk images.
I've always heard backing up from inside domU is best.
R1Soft is an obvious option but the pricing seems quite high and I'm wondering what kind of CPU/disk usage impact it could have. Say you just have 16 virtual servers per box (2 per core)... that is 16 instances running, and ~$2400 just in licenses alone.
Anyone have any experience doing backups/CDP in a virtualized environment? You using R1Soft or something else? Inside domU or out?
I wish R1Soft offered monthly pricing, since then the upfront investment per customer isn't nearly as much.
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Aug 3, 2008
how much R1soft costs?
Is it worth it?
Do you have to keep your backups on one of their servers?
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Jul 20, 2008
I got an idea that using r1soft CDP to move server, since it provides restoring data to a different server. But I never used it, not sure if it is doable.
Any one did this before? any requirements (software/hardware) for new server that will be moved in?
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May 1, 2009
on this backup solution. How do they do the backups. If you`re a datacenter, are backups routed through the internal network through a central backup server or do you backup externally to their servers?
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Aug 8, 2008
How do you restore a cpanel server with r1soft?
I know need to restore /home
but if I restore /etc /usr /var it will screw up stuff, ex. /etc/modules.conf
and if I don't it will be missing stuff, like /etc/userdomains
Anyone know the best way to restore from an r1soft backup?
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Aug 7, 2008
Should/home be its own partition when using r1soft, or can it be part of/?
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Aug 9, 2008
Am I correct the r1soft does not preserve permission/ownership?
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May 17, 2015
I have multiple backups stored under server repository (subscriptions --> <domainname> --> website and domains --> backup manager).
The physical files are located at: /var/lib/psa/dumps/clients/904279/domains/<domainname>/
When I click the green arrow to download these files to a local computer (see attached image) I get a new page with title "Download the backup file". On this page I have the option to set a password on the downloaded file, but no matter what I do (password or no password) the file is not downloaded to my local PC. I don't get a pop-up box with the option to save the file. Just nothing happens ...
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Aug 15, 2014
I have 2 problems:
Firstly I wonder if there is any possibility to limit the number of cores the plesk backup zipping tool uses? This pigz takes up all my CPU. Is there any way I can reduce the amount of cores it uses because all my websites are down every time a backup takes place for around 3 minutes.
Secondly I get the following in my syslog:
1 baby plesk sendmail[20189]: Error during 'check-quota' handler
I don't know what is wrong. I think it's since the upgrade to Plesk 12. I now have 12.0.18 Update #13.
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Sep 17, 2014
I have a 6GB backup file created with another Plesk Backup Manager, now I trying to upload this backup file to my Plesk Backup Manager but after upload 3% I am getting "413 Request Entity Too Large" error, I tried with disable NGINX but still getting this error.
how can I resolve this error or is their any other way to upload my file on backup manager?
I see that Backup Manager have a file size restriction of 2GB how can I increase this?
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Feb 11, 2015
I have an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit virtual private server with Plesk 12. The server is hired from a hosting provider. The server is used to run the Odoo ERP application (using postgres database).
The Odoo application is running fine and now I want to create a backup of the application using Plesks Backup manager.
I choose configurations and content option in the backup manager but the created backup is only 200kb.
I think the problem is the location where the Odoo application is installed is not included in the backup. I made a tar backup from the server and extracted it on my pc. It seems that the main parts of the Odoo application are in the var, opt, etc and usr directories (not in a domain but under root).
Installing the application in a domain would solve the Plesk backup issue I think but the installation script of Odoo puts Odoo in var, opt, etc and usr directories even if I put the install script in the directory of a created domain. Since the manual Odoo installation is complicated I am very happy to use the script.
My questions are:
1. Is it possible to include the directories var, opt, etc and usr in the Plesk backup and how and where do I do that?
2. Can I restore such a backup without no problem in Plesk?
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Jan 26, 2007
I current do some rsync backups with a command like so every day
rsync -az -e ssh --stats --delete --exclude "stuff" / user@server:/home/user/
What I want to do is have some incremental backups in there in subdirectories. So, for example, something like this on the remote server
/home/user/something.tuesday
/home/user/something.friday
I thought the --backup --backup-dir Switches were used to store just the files that had changed in seperate directories, am I wrong on that?
I've read everything I could find, including the big rsnapshot scripts, but I'm not able to do what I want, it seems so simple but something's not right, am I wrong that subdirs should have just files that are new or have changed. I tried various things like this, but had no luck
rsync -az -e ssh --stats --delete --backup --backup-dir=/home.Thursday --exclude "stuff" / user@server:/home/user/
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