Dell PowerEdge SC1435 Vs PowerEdge 1950
Aug 16, 2007
There is a big difference in price between these two servers. I suspect the 1950 might be overkill.
My 15 websites are presently on a dedicated Celeron win 2003 server. Would the SC1435 make much difference in speed and tasking?
I presently am using an MS SQL DB hosted on a shared server. Is there any problem in putting the SQL DB on the same server as the sites are on? Is this a good or bad idea? Should the DB go on its own separate disk if on same server?
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May 9, 2008
what is the difference in the PE 1950 III vs the original 1950? We're trying to get a couple in house but 1st must get a better price than $2,475 for the following specs below.
If anyone has a good sales rep at Dell (ours no longer works there), please send it via PM.
Dell PowerEdge 1950 III Specs:
2xQuad Core Xeon E5410 2.33 GHz Processors
4x1GB Ram
PERC6i RAID Controller
2x500GB 7.2k SATA 3Gbps HDs
CD-Rom/DVD
3yrs Support (5x10 HW, 5x10 NBD)
Price: $2,475.00
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Sep 23, 2008
Long story short, my father owns a commercial/industrial distribution company where I work as a broker between contractors and manufacturers.
Our current IT Department (who has no formal computer training) has become more useless to me over the past year and are turning my computer into a counterproductive experience which has about driven me off the deep end.
I am therefore deciding to do the unthinkable and break off of the companies server and start working through one of my own here at home.
Ill basically need the machine to act as a place that recieves and stores emails then distributes out to my machines (laptop, desktop)whatever is connected to it, store and access job files/information, and I would like to be able to hook up to my server at work to access a particular program they use on their server, i guess I could probably just install the program on my server too.
I would also like it for personal use and storage as well as possibly hosting my own website (personal website).
I am looking to get a Dell Poweredge 1950 with some solid specs (spend about 4500) to get me going and will be taking classes at the local CC to educate me on running this thing.
I have a few questions about servers in general.
1. Is it possible for me to connect to the current server at my company to exchange or access files/ programs?
2. Can I do this without compromising the security of the server at work? (security is their #1 argument against everything, they told me once that mozilla on my machine compromised the security of the system - BS)
3. Can I run Apples for my workstation and laptop and still interface with the VMware software?
4. I am currently on FIOS here at home, will I need a new dedicated internet line to run the server? what do I need for speed!??
Thanks guys!
I am still totally new to this whole server scene so I apologize if some of my questions are completely insignificant. I am trying to read around as much as possible but I want to get started on this so i thought i would try and get some direction.
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Jul 9, 2008
I'm thinking about purchasing a Dell PowerEdge 860 and use it as a web server. I need your guy's inputs on what you guys think of this server regarding the quality, performance, & price.
This server retails for about $420 + s/h.
Here are the specs:
PowerEdge 860 Intel® Celeron® Processor 430 at 1.8GHz, 512K Cache, 800MHz FSB
Operating System No Operating System
Memory 512MB DDR2, 667MHz, 1X512MB Single Ranked DIMMs
Riser Card Riser with 2 Slots: 1 PCI Express x8 slot and 1 PCI Express x4 slot
Primary Hard Drive 80GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive
Primary Hard Drive Controller Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID
Network Adapter On-Board Dual Gigabit Network Adapter, No TOE
CD/DVD Drive No CD/DVD
Bezel Bezel
Documentation Electronic Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit
Hard Drive Configuration Onboard SATA, 1 Drive connected to Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID
Rack Rail Options No Rails Included
Hardware Support Services 3Yr BASIC SUPPORT: 5x10 HW-Only, 5x10 NBD Onsite
Installation Support Services No Installation Assessment
Power Cords Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
I know this is a newbie question but with the specs above on the server, will this server be working right out of the box (equipped with PSU & other neccessary equips.) and ready for installtion of linux servers?
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Jan 6, 2007
i notice the Dell do not configure the on board SATA to any RAID unless you purchase add on RAID adapter.
does this mean you can't configure it yourself? do dell poweredge onboard SATA controller support any RAID at all? do dell allow you to configure it yourself or you must purchase the add on RAID adapter?
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Aug 10, 2009
I have a Dell Poweredge 2650
Specs:
Dual Xeon 2.4 GHz 400 MHz FSB
ServerWorks GC-LE Chipset supports five PCI buses: three PCI-X (1 x 64bit/133MHz,
2 x 64bit/100MHz), one 64bit/66MHz, one legacy bus (32bit/33MHz)
12 GB DDR PC 2700 ECC Registered
(X5) Maxtor Atlas 15k II 3.5 series Ultra320 SCA II 80 pin in RAID 5
PERC 3/DI RAID controller with 128MB or Cache with back-up battery
(X2) integrated Broadcom Gigabit BaseT with load balancing and failover support
INTEL PRO/1000 MF GIGABIT SERVER ADAPTER C2126 FIBER
J1679 DELL INTEL PRO1000MT DUAL CARD PCI-X
Dual 500 watt power-supplies
I have a few questions.
1) How many websites could a server like this handle on a 100 Mbps synchronous line?
2) Are there any colocation companies that would hook up to the fiber card for connection?
3) What is the best choice of action when dropping line to in in a colocation center? The dual on-board or the Dual Intel Pro/1000MT? I know that there is load balancing on the on-board Broadcom NICs but how do you use them for load balancing mode?? Then are seen as two separate NICs. I can drop as many lines as needed in the data center I am planing going into so number of lines is not an issue. let me know the best action on connectivity for my server with my specs provided.
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May 6, 2008
We have a rack with a bunch of Dell servers in them. The distance between the front vertical mounting brackets and the rear vertical mounting brackets is just over 28 inches (715 mm). We've always used Dell static rails they and they have always fitted perfectly.
We have recently received some new Poweredge 2970s with Rapid / Versa rails, and it seems that the front and rear mounting brackets are only 24 inches (609 mm) apart.
Am I missing something? I can't find any way of adjusting the length of the Rapid / Versa rails.
It looks like we are going to have to pull all the gear out of the rack, move the rear mounting brackets forward, and put everything back in. This is a real nuisance (and I would do pretty much anything to avoid it).
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Feb 15, 2007
I am putting some servers into a data center in downtown la for a hosting business. I want to put a firewall between the internet and these servers so I recently purchased an older poweredge 1550 to put the ipcop distro of linux on with the intention of making it a highly customizable firewall. The only problem is that it comes with the scsi drives and it's on a raid 5 array so the stock ipcop installer will not recognize the logical drive. Would anyone happen to know if any of the drivers on the dell site will work with the ipcop distro of linux?
Assuming this doesn't end up working out, does anyone have any suggestions for a different firewall solution to use for a hosting company?
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Oct 9, 2009
I have been looking at DELL PowerEdge R200/R210/R410. I am trying to figure out which is best bang for the buck. They all have similar pricing. Which one has best performance?
PE R200
CPU: X3360
Ram: 4 x 2GB
PE 210
CPU X3450
Ram: 4 x 2GB
PE R410
CPU: E5504 (Single CPU)
Ram: 3 x 2GB
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Sep 2, 2009
I have a Dell 2850 with 6 HD's:
2x36 GB in a RAID 1 with LD 0 of 36GB (the HD's changed to 1x72 & 1x144 and is working fine)
3x72 GB in a RAID 5 with LD 1 of 144GB
1x72 GB as a HotSpare
The 'problem/chalange' is as follows:
The LD 0 RAID 1 is getting too small (2x36GB seen as 36) for my Windows 2008 server C drive. So I changed one 36 GB disk for a 72GB and after a couple of days the other 36 GB to a 144 GB disk (because I had those two and not 2x72 GB or 2x144 GB). Everything is working fine in this RAID 1. But now I want to enlarge/expand de Logical Drive (LD no. 0) from 36 GB to 72 GB.
I only managed to make an extra (third) Logical Drive (LD no. 2 of 36 GB).
Now I do not know how to delete this extra LD 2 on RAID 1 AND how to expand the RAID 1 LD 0 into a LD of 72 GB.
The problem is that I do not know which option to choose in the RAID controller panel (ctrl+m during the bootup progres screen).
Who knows which buttons to press or a Windows based program to configure the RAID?
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Jul 24, 2008
Is there any way to use SATA harddrives instead of SCSI harddrives with a Dell Poweredge 2650? I purchased the Dell on the cheap. It came with one 36GB SCSI drive. Four more hotswap slots. No sleds/caddies/trays for additional drives, so I need those as well.
Looking at the market (eBay mainly) for used SCSI harddrives, it's pretty pricey to get drives of a decent size (73gb+, $50+ each). I would like to use SATA drives instead (get them brand new vs. used SCSI). Problem is this server does not have an embedded SATA controller, just the SCSI Perc3/DI controller. So maybe get a 3ware 8000 series SATA controller + sata drives + trays? Is that possible? There are no molex connectors inside the server. Power to the harddrives comes from the SCSI backplane.
The server will be just for my personal stuff (personal web site, DNS, etc), nothing mission critical. Just trying to save a few bucks buying cheap large capacity SATA drives vs. used smaller capacity SCSI drives.
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Jul 1, 2008
Right im about to invest in some new equipment for the business and am looking at one of the 2 above servers. Does anyone have any experience with both or either?
The spec of the machine to start is as follows:
HP Proliant DL380 G5
Intel Quad-Core Xeon 2.5Ghz
4GB Ram
3x 146GB SAS Hotswap RAID5 (OS)
5x 146GB SAS Hotswap RAID5 (Storage)
Dell Poweredge 2950 III
Intel Quad-Core Xeon 2.5Ghz
4GB Ram
3x 146GB SAS RAID5 (OS)
5x 146GB SAS RAID5 (Storage)
Both are near identical specs and the price of the HP is slightly more, is it worth it?
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Jul 22, 2008
For my business i just got 3 new Dell PowerEdge 1750 Rack Servers with windows 2003 installed on them. With 100Mbit speeds should i be able to host numerous game servers and voip servers?
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Jul 23, 2008
Who has linux on a dell poweredge 2650. i have debian on mine right now but havent been able to get the raid and embedded management and MIB's support working with linux
considering switching to redhat so i can use the packaged software from dell.
any one have any advise or experience getting the embedded hardware working with debian? if so how did you do it.
i want to be able to monitor the raid and the drives for defunt drives and such, and also be able to get into the embedded management card, and to be able to use mrtg with the MIB's for fan speed, cpu temp etc etc
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Jan 3, 2007
Just picked up some used Dell PE 1750's, and was planning to add Drac's in them, but I can't seem to find which drac to use. Anyone that has any experience with this model?
Talked with a salesperson at Dell, first he didn't seem to know what Drac was, and after a while he came back to me with Drac IV which fits into PE1850. He belived it also should fit into 1750, but I don't belive that.
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Nov 18, 2008
I got a Dell PowerEdge 850 a couple of years ago, with a 2.8Ghz P4D processor and 2GB RAM. It's currently on CentOS 4 and running quite well with H-Sphere. I host on it a couple of sites coded in PHP, and sometimes a game server or two.
I'm currently thinking of moving on to Windows Server 2008 as I'm intending to put up a web app using ASP.Net. As you can see, my system isn't really a beefy machine, and I was wondering if I would be able to run the new OS on it and continue to be able to achieve a satisfactory performance?
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Apr 13, 2007
Probably going to give this a shot in the near future anyway, but just wanted to check whether anyone has tried and had success putting either 3Ware 8006-2LP or 9550SX-4LP cards in Dell PowerEdge 860 systems with a couple of SATA drives instead of using the Dell PERC controllers?
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Jun 12, 2008
you are going to purchase a new rack and the data center offers you a specific amount of power.
you are going to use server's specs like this
Dell PE 1950 III
two processors intel xeon E5410 2.33 GHZ , 24 MB cache, 1333MHz FSB
2x250 sata HDD
8 GB RAM
My question is how many amp's need for one server?
or how much power does one dell PE 1950 III with the previous specs needs?
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Nov 5, 2008
We must install Dell 1950 With Centos 5 and WHM/Cpanel
How to setting 2 onboard NIC to fail over
The second card have same IP and must start only when the first is down.
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Oct 17, 2007
Will a Perc 5 raid card work in a non-dell Linux server? These cards can be found for about $100 on eBay, and are much cheaper than the Adaptec cards with similar features and ports.
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Aug 21, 2007
PowerEdge SC1435 Dual Core AMD Opteron® 2212; 2.0GHz,2X1MB Cache,1Ghz HyperTransport 143G20 [222-6400] 1
Operating System No Operating System NOOS [420-6320] 11
2nd Processor Single Processor Only 1P [311-3928] 2
Memory FREE UPGRADE! 2GB, 667MHz, 4x512MB Single Ranked DIMMs 2G4D6P [466-7879] 3
TCP/IP Offload Engine Enablement Broadcom® Dual Port TCP/IP Offload Engine Not Enabled NTOEKEY [430-1765] 6
PCI Riser Riser with 1 PCIe Slot PCIE [320-4982] 7
1st Hard Drive 80GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive 80S2 [341-3801] 8
Primary Controller Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID OBSATA [430-1949] 9
Network Adapters On-Board Dual Port Gigabit Network Adapter, No TOE OBNIC [430-2008] 13
CD/DVD Drive No CD/DVD NOCDDVD [313-3924] 16
Bezel Bezel FRTBZL [313-4477] 17
System Documentation No Hard Copy Documentation, E-Docs ONLY and OpenManage CD Kit EDOCS [310-8261] 21
HD Configuration Onboard SATA, 1 Drive connected to Onboard SATA Controller - NO RAID MST1 [341-3957] 27
Chassis Configuration No Rack Rails Included NORAIL [341-3089] 28
Hardware Support Services 1Yr BASIC SUPPORT: 5x10 HW-Only, 5x10 NBD Onsite U1OS [980-9530][985-5117][985-9057] 29
Installation Support Services No Installation Assessment NOINSTL [900-9997] 32
Power Cords Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C14, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter WAL10FT [310-4450] 38
why do Dell's none dell rack rail cost $249? Can i buy the rail for dell from ebay? i saw a dell rail cost only $140 on ebay.
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Aug 19, 2009
Does anyone know of any providers in 1950 Stemmons inside of Equinix with space less than a full cab? I only need 1/4 cab or less for a router and some switching equipment.
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Sep 14, 2009
I have a couple of Dell 1950s and in one of them, I have 2x Seagate 15K.5s that I purchased through Dell and I also have a spare sitting in my rack in case one goes bad, also from Dell.
I was going to be repurposing one of my other 1950s and was going to get two more 15K.5s for it, but wasn't planning on getting them through Dell (rip off?). This way, could still keep the same spare drive around in case a drive went bad in that system as well.
When I was talking to my Dell rep recently when purchasing another system, their hardware tech said you can't use non-Dell drives with Dell drives in the same RAID array because of the different firmware between them.
Anyone know if it is true? Anyone have any experience with using drives from Dell in conjunction with the same model drives from a third party retailer?
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Oct 2, 2007
why don't you buy servers from big guys like HP and DELL? Are they too expensive, or servers are not as good as suposed to be, or something else?
Our company is buying all our computers and printers from HP, we are receiving great customer service, waranty, if something gets wrong - we had computer replaced-no problem!
Maybe some small local guys are selling cheaper and better equipment, but I have peace of mind.
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Jul 22, 2009
I know this topic has been brought up before and I wanted to revisit this again. We are a growing hosting company looking to expand our Dedicated server offerings. So far, we have been renting servers and reselling but now we have begun colocating our equipment and are looking for hardware vendors.
Would you recommend us to...
...build our own servers using the Supermicro platform?
...purchase pre-built servers from Dell?
...purchase pre-build servers from HP?
Pricing is of major concern along with speed to provision new orders. Although we don't have a dedicated resource for putting together servers, this is something we can look into should the volume of orders increase. Scalability and Flexibility is a MUST
Thanks for chiming in...
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May 30, 2009
The technical level in our org is quite low.
We would like some advice on the difference between
1. Supermicro PDSML-LN2
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2. DELL PowerEdge R200
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3. HP Proliant DL120
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Some web hosts here in Singapore are leasing them at comparable rates.
Our research shows that the Dell and HP are comparable and the SuperMicro appears to be in a different (lower) class.
How can the servers be leased at comparable rates if they are from different classes?
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May 25, 2008
Got a Dell PE 2650 that I sold last week, the guy who has bought it wants the RAC (remote access controller) working on it. Unfortunately I don't have the password for it, in order to log it on, rendering it useless.
Is there any way to reset this password? I've tried resetting BIOS and that didn't work (I believe it's on a separate system)
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Apr 8, 2008
we would buy the new PE R300 but for now the Drac5 not is yet available but we could buy it as external kit, someone have try it with R300? any issue?
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Apr 18, 2008
I have not read the Dell return policy in a long time as it was an acceptable 30 days for the most part and no restocking fees.
Its going to be difficult ordering new servers that we have not previously experienced with their now 15% restocking fee.
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Apr 26, 2007
configuration on Supermicro hardware and dell hardware, the pricing is pretty much the same 100+/- so thats not an issue.
But I am having a hard time to decide if I should go with supermicro or dell.
But here are the points which I have in mind.
- As far as dell goes, there is a central place for support, for example, if I have any issues, I know who to call exactly and get the issue solved, no resellers involved. If I go with supermicro and buy the hardware from a 3rd party, I dont know who to go to for support say a Motherboard fails or if I have any other questions, should I ask Supermicro themselves or the reseller?
- Has a DRAC card which I've heard is much more powerful than IPMI and I've heard Supermicro has no hardware for remote management as powerful as DRAC, I dont know how true that is.
- If I need any parts I know where I have to go to order them and what exactly to order since they have specific parts for specific server models, I dont know about supermicro.
I know, most of my points are benefiting Dell. But I've heard from the research that Supermicro hardware use less power and have less hard drive failures than Dell Servers, I dont know how true that is.
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Jul 26, 2009
how to add additional HDD on Dell M-series blade server. What i have seen till now is that only 2 HDD space is available on those server, i would request expert opinion on this issue. Experienced users please share your views or how did u guyz solve this issue.
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