Dell PowerEdge 2850 RAID 1 Expansion

Sep 2, 2009

I have a Dell 2850 with 6 HD's:

2x36 GB in a RAID 1 with LD 0 of 36GB (the HD's changed to 1x72 & 1x144 and is working fine)
3x72 GB in a RAID 5 with LD 1 of 144GB
1x72 GB as a HotSpare

The 'problem/chalange' is as follows:

The LD 0 RAID 1 is getting too small (2x36GB seen as 36) for my Windows 2008 server C drive. So I changed one 36 GB disk for a 72GB and after a couple of days the other 36 GB to a 144 GB disk (because I had those two and not 2x72 GB or 2x144 GB). Everything is working fine in this RAID 1. But now I want to enlarge/expand de Logical Drive (LD no. 0) from 36 GB to 72 GB.

I only managed to make an extra (third) Logical Drive (LD no. 2 of 36 GB).

Now I do not know how to delete this extra LD 2 on RAID 1 AND how to expand the RAID 1 LD 0 into a LD of 72 GB.

The problem is that I do not know which option to choose in the RAID controller panel (ctrl+m during the bootup progres screen).

Who knows which buttons to press or a Windows based program to configure the RAID?

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