Power Consumption For Dell PE 1950 III

Jun 12, 2008

you are going to purchase a new rack and the data center offers you a specific amount of power.

you are going to use server's specs like this

Dell PE 1950 III
two processors intel xeon E5410 2.33 GHZ , 24 MB cache, 1333MHz FSB
2x250 sata HDD
8 GB RAM

My question is how many amp's need for one server?

or how much power does one dell PE 1950 III with the previous specs needs?

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If anyone has a good sales rep at Dell (ours no longer works there), please send it via PM.

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