Colo Vs Dedicated Server Pricing
Dec 31, 2007
I have been reviewing online price quotes for colo hosting and dedicated server hosting. To me, common sense would be that it would be less expensive to get a cheapo used server off of ebay and have it colocated. But what I am seeing is many instances where it would would actually be less expensive per month to rent a dedicated server (which might even be a better server) - including in some cases from the very same companies that offer the colo services. Is what I am seeing typical - and, if so, why is this the case? Is there an assumption that a colo customer will use more bandwidth than a typical dedicated server customer? Is the cost of servicing a colo customer significantly greater than that of a dedicated server customer?
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Jan 30, 2008
We're doing some research trying to determine what people would consider to be average, good, great and excellent colo pricing for full rack, cage square footage price and power per amp pricing. We're not looking for comparisons of other offers but rather what people's real pricing opinions are for this type of service. Service would be in a major market and well connected facility with all major carriers available.
Bandwidth pricing per Mbps can be included but doesn't need to be if this would be carrier neutral colo.
So we're looking for:
Rack:
Average
Good
Great
Excellent
Cage Square Footage:
Average
Good
Great
Excellent
Power per Amp:
Average
Good
Great Excellent
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Sep 1, 2009
Can anyone recommend service provider in US and EU who can provide IP's at economical price. Something like /24 for $50 or less.
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Apr 21, 2008
Intel just hacked its CPU pricing, especially the quad core.
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Perhaps we will see this show up in cheaper and/or faster dedicated servers. I guess I better wait another week or two before getting that new box!
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May 26, 2008
if these were decent pricing for the following dedicated servers:
DUAL QUAD-CORE XEON
2x XEON 5345 (8x 2.33ghz)
2GB FB-DDR2 667 RAM
250GB HDD
THIS CONFIG - $350 / mo
DUAL DUAL-CORE OPTERON 285
2x OPTERON 285 (4x 2.66ghz)
2GB DDR 400 REG/ECC
250GB HDD
THIS CONFIG - $250 / mo
SINGLE QUAD CORE Q6600
1x Core 2 Quad (4x 2.40ghz)
2GB DDR2 1066 RAM
250GB HDD
THIS CONFIG - $200 / mo
They are all listed as 10mbit unmetered and they show the following for their providers:
Qwest, MCI/Verizon, Savvis and BTN
Does it seem about right? I'm new to hosting and just wanted to make sure that it is decent pricing.
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May 2, 2008
I've been a colo since the beginning of time. My servers are getting old so I've started pricing options, and it looks like dedicated is the way to go today. But I'm not sure...
I suppose it depends on the host. My host says "if you're colo, we provide admin at an hourly rate. If your machine needs a reboot, call us and we reboot it. If you're dedicated we don't touch your server beyond repairing it. If it needs a reboot, you login to our site and click a link and it is rebooted."
That doesn't seem like much of a difference. I'd need an off-site admin, but both charge by the hour, so no big deal. A live person reboot seems no better than a web-based software reboot. In fact I'll wager that the "live person" just logs in and clicks the link for me.
Colo is about twice as expensive as dedicated. That seems like the only big difference.
It also seems to me that with today's cPanel-style admin it's trivial to migrate to a new host, so competition to keep clients is intense. I'm guessing that keeps prices down. Reading between the lines of what my host says, I can tell he doesn't really want me to go dedicated. He kinda said they don't make much money on dedicated machines.
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Aug 18, 2008
I've been dealing with VPS and dedicated servers primarily.
Is there any benefit of switching to colocation? When should one consider switching to colocation? And should he at all?
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Apr 25, 2009
For the last few weeks I have been looking around at various colo and dedi offers here and there because I was thinking of saving some money by colocating a server and I noticed that everyone who offers both colo and dedi have things fixed so that the colo is much more expensive than renting a dedi from the same people in the exact same datacenters!
You would think that since a brand new server costs between $500 and $2500 to build or buy that amortizing of the cost of the hardware would make the dedis more expensive but in fact the opposite is true 90% of the time and only rarely does a host offer a colo plan that even matches their dedi plans. There are exceptions, like FDC for example but most of the time when you sit down and look at the price per mbps and the price per amp the colocation for a standard 8GB/quadcore/500GB server doing 2 TB of bandwidth is more just in monthly rental than if you rented a dedi(that the company owns).
So, in other words if I am renting a dedi with 8GB RAM, Quadcore CPU, 500GB hard drive with 5000 GB bandwidth quota on a 100mbps uplink for $125 to $150 a month and I wanted to save money by swapping it out with my own dedi of the same specs I would right away lose the cost of the dedi and then each month lose even more just in the colo fees along.
So what exactly is going on here? Are hosts overselling their dedis and making losses on a few but profits on most? And then on top of that artificially bloating their colo prices to encourage people to rent dedis instead? Or...do they just bloat colo prices out of fear and expectation that anyone who colos will be blasting their servers to the max and sucking up the mostest amps while using all the bandwidth that they buy?
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Mar 12, 2008
I'm looking to get a 500mbps or a 1 gbps dedicated colo plan for 2 streaming servers.
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Jul 18, 2007
I'm thinking of moving from a dedicated server to colocation. The two reasons for this are -
A. I'd like to actually own my server (considering a Dell rack.)
B. There seems to be a very big price difference between renting a high spec dedicated server and just having your own high spec server in a data centre.
My worries are as follows -
1. Should I install the new server in the data centre before putting Linux etc. on it? Or should I put everything I want on it before it goes to the data centre? Or do racks normally come with Linux pre-installed? I have no idea. What's the normal procedure for new servers?
2. Would it be easy/painless to transfer my websites from my current server to the new colo server? I rely on WHM/Cpanel for a lot of my admin work. I'm not useless, but I'm not good enough to manualy configure DNS etc. myself. Could one of the outsourced administration companies take care of all this for me?
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Mar 22, 2007
We're currently with Rackspace with three dedicated boxes from them that we got several years ago. Rackspace has been a relativly good service for us up until last year.
Basically, the people before me were content with letting the servers sit there as they were loaded up more and more with virtual domains, more spam trap e-mail accounts and so on. Anyone who's been fourth in line will know the feeling.
Anyway, now that I am here, there are a lot of things that I'm finding we're paying Rackspace for that I could manage better on my own "if".
So, to cut costs, improve performance (we're still paying a premium price for machines that I've begun retiring from desktop usage) and generally give the webmaster more toys to tinker with, we've been discussing colocation of our own machines.
I've spoken to a LOT of people, having submitted Colotraq requests, googled, lurked on this forum (I've been a member for years, several times, actually) and discussed with friends and colleagues over IRC.
That said, I'm not finding a lot of "good options". Perhaps I'm a little biased, I've found a single host with just about everything I want, but due to a directive from my CEO, we can't use them.
Here I'll plug someone. One of the most attentive people I've ever met has been Dallas Kincaid of Xecu.net in Frederick MD. This man jumped through hoops to provide me information about his services, offered darn good rates and is generally a great person to deal with. The problem with using them is that one of our direct competitors, someone we've just ended years of litigation with, colocates with Xecu.net and I was barred from pursuing them as an option.
Anyway, here's what I require.
We currently run RHEL 2.1 AS, which needs being replaced, but as is the case in corporate settings, this has to be done gradually, without disturbing the delicate customers. On that system we've also got a slew of proprietary application that we're not willing to replace out right, but we plan to phase out over time in favor of Free Software offerings (some written in house).
I plan on running some kind of virtualization (not certain which yet, as there are pros for each) to keep these legacy systems in place while migrating our clients over as possible. Because I'm not sure what our needs in a year might be, we may deploy more VM's on the same physical machines.
A coloprovider with reasonable and abundant IP address policy and a TOS that allows virtual servers is a MUST.
One of our requirements is that the facility is in the general DC/Dulles area so that I may get to the server from my home or from work easily.
We also plan to utilize a dedicated firewall, a dedicated spam filtering appliance and a storage server. I have no problem paying for unused space if the price is reasonable, so colo providers selling 1/4 and 1/2 racks are fine even though we won't use it all.
Rackspace doesn't monitor 95th percentile bandwidth, so I'm not sure what I'd need if 95th percentile was used. However, the average monthly (combined) volume from our servers now is between 280 and 375 GB.
Does anybody here have experience with a provider they KNOW would meet my needs, so that I can compare pricing? If you've got kudos or horror stories, I'd like to hear those as well. I'm willing to overlook a reasonable price difference for good service, follow through or expertise.
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Sep 17, 2007
My contract is up for one of my data centers and I just got hit with a new price increase per AMP! From $15/AMP to $23/AMP? Am I nuts or is this price VERY high? The data center is on long island. What is everyone else seeing?
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Dec 16, 2007
Please give me the difference. Colo in carrier hotel, we can choose our preferred network provider, but should we do that if we cannot have our own tech in datacenter? How about the supporting service from carrier hotel? Just general question, cause I dont address exactly which facility.
And the second would be more expensive? Saying the same number of rack, amount of bandwidth... Who is providing IP addresses then?
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Aug 20, 2009
I'm going to start offering a KVMoIP service for my customers and am trying to get ideas on the pricing. What do y'all think about it? I know most places that I know about charge a setup + hourly fee, well, I like to be just a little bit better, so let's see what y'all have to say.
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Feb 12, 2008
colo in Montreal even though prices appear to be much higher than pretty much anywhere else.
I just got offered 450$ for half cab ( 15A ) and 250$ per mbps, 3 mbps commit for 12 months.
Provider is pretty big and tier 2 network.
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May 2, 2008
I'm really just asking this out of interest and please pardon my ignorance. (I don't actually need a provider or anything now)
I've been looking around at pricing for colocation, and from what I've found, they start at around US$90/month.
From what I can tell, a colo provider basically offers you some rack space, a power port and of course, the internet line (maybe a few extra cables and such). What I don't get is that, looking at pricing for dedicated servers, they also seem to start at around US$90/month.
But with a dedicated server, aren't you paying for the rack space, the power, the internet _and_ an entire server? (BTW, I'm comparing similar features, that is, the colo provider is offering 1TB transfer per month, and so is the dedicated hosting provider). So why is colo costing around the same price as dedicated hosting? Is this usually the case, or is my comparison across multiple providers just faulty?
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Apr 10, 2008
I am in the UK looking for web hosting (possible a vps) with at least 6GB storage. I am confused why there is such a difference in price between companies offers.
E.g Kuala and Supanames are about £420 per year for a basic vps.
If i go to the EUKhost.com website they offer a vps for £240.
Is it because the first 2 companies offer a better service or are they just expensive, or are they set at a normal price and the EUKhost is cheap because it is not very good?
Any advice gratefully received.
Also if anyone has had any experience with any of these companies please share it.
Or if you know if a reasonably priced VPS - where you KNOW the service is good please tell me about it.
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May 20, 2008
Can anyone give me a rough estimate of what I should be expected to pay for the following bandwidth commitments from Verizon:
45Mbps (DS3)
100Mbps (FE)
155Mbps (OC3)
1Gbps (Gig-E)
This location would be a Verizon central office. Anyone know of a good Verizon sales representative or reseller?
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Oct 31, 2007
I am working with one of the new DCs that we deal with to negotiate some colo pricing and setups. They are not huge on colo, in fact they do very little of it. Hard to believe out of about 1200 servers in their DC, their colo section will not even fill 2 to 3 racks.
They do not even have a setup to price based on per Mbps, I'm sure they know about where they need to be if they dig into it, but they want me to work up a proposal based on what I need (they are working hard to work with me and keep our business).
Their network is fine, nothing outstanding but plenty strong for our needs.
They use mostly Time Warner and Level 3. I think I can even setup with them to provide my own rack, which I prefer to do since it would keep only our servers in the rack.
My question is, from those who have plenty experience on different levels at different Mbps pricing, what is average and reasonable considering those 2 carriers? If I provide a rack, they will provide power, UPS, etc. Aside from that, I need advice on what to expect on the pricing of the bandwidth.
I may also end up using my own Cisco switch in the rack, I haven't cleared that up yet.
If I start off @ 10 Mbps in the rack, and work up, about where should this be on BW pricing?
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May 3, 2007
Does Level3 charge the same price per rack at every one of their datacenters, or is it dependent on the location? For example, how much would a rack in the Houston datacenter cost compared to the Dallas datacenter? Please no sales people contact me I am just asking to do some research.
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Dec 13, 2007
What do you think the Standard Pricing for power should be in Toronto.
I heard $10 /amp how does that sound, Im just doing some research thanks for your comments.
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Nov 19, 2007
Is the SPLA pricing for Windows 2008 server out yet?
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Oct 19, 2007
This is probably a dumb question, but I've been curious about something. While shopping around for either a cheap dedicated server (less than $75/mo) or a cheap colo for a 1u server, I have noticed that the cheap dedicated servers are often less than a cheap colo, which seems odd to me since with a colo you bring your own machine.
For example, Sago Networks has cheap dedicateds for $50, $59, $79 etc. yet their cheapest colo option is $99. For Sago's $50 dedicated you get 1000GB transfer and 2 IP's, and with their $99 colo you get only get 100 GB transfer and 1 IP.
And Sago is not unusual in this respect. I've priced other providers that fall into this category and they have similar differences.
So why is colo more expensive than dedicated for similar, if not lower, features?
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Nov 5, 2009
Colocation like FDC Pricing in CA, Los Angles?
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Apr 3, 2008
Anyone have a ball park figure of what to expect $/MB? on a 100 or 200 megabit Commit From XO in the Tampa/FL market. Also other than Cogent Who else has aggressive pricing at the same commit level as above in the Tampa Market?
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Feb 16, 2007
I've been happily hosted in Equinix Ashburn for over a year now, so I haven't been looking into price changes over the past months. However, my colo provider suddenly decided to raise prices by 20% on me, saying that space and bandwidth has become scarce over the past year and their own cost went up by 75%. So they are asking me to lock the new hiked price by signing a new contract, otherwise I won't be able to get such offer from them or any other provider in that location.
Before signing anything, I'm trying to get a feel of the current prices. I see a lot of ads in here for same bw and space, but I'm sure there are variations in the level of service they provide, depending on the colo company, location, bw providers, package type, etc... So, just as crude estimate, can you please tell in general whether prices/costs has went up or down or stayed the same since last year, and by how much?
And if someone has experience with Equinix/Ashburn, what would be a reasonable price for a dedicated 100Mbps/4U colocation with a quality bandwidth provider?
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Dec 30, 2008
I just read that online ad revenue is expected to drop *dramatically* in 2009 as a result of budget cuts, much more careful spending as well as companies who still have significant budgets to spend expecting large discounts. As a company that is a "publisher" (we put other people's ads on our sites) this can potentially make a big a difference to us.
I'm wondering how bandwidth pricing is going change the coming year.
We're very much pushed to sign a contract (before 2008 ends) with a *true* tier-1 provider (not Cogent, hint hint) for a multiple gigabit, 12 month commit at under $5 a meg. That's very attractive to us but I can't help but wonder what's going to happen in 2009...
Best of luck to everyone in 2009, it's shaping up to be a challenging year to many.
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Jun 4, 2009
servers for a freehosting project and came across a good quote on some dual quad core amds for $320 a month. Is this about right? I don't want to give the exact location away as this was a custom quote but it's located in chicago. The network is Internap FCP optimized with internap, level3, and comcast.
Specs:
Quad Core AMD Opteron® 2376; 2.3 GHz,6M Cache,1Ghz HyperTransport
2 x 500GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive
RAID1
16GB (4x4GB), 800MHz, Dual Ranked
I might get a couple more for virtualization.
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Aug 3, 2007
I'm currently on a shared hosting plan and my site has gotten to the point where the server cant handle it anymore, so I have to move up. I was debating a managed dedicated server and while looking at the prices for an entry level box of $200+/mo. I began to wonder whether it might be better to buy a server and colo in some shared rackspace.
Has anyone gone this route? Is it worth it, do you save more, or does it cost even more?
I'm looking at some decent deals on ebay for HP DL380's 2Ghz+ 1GB Ram which I think should be pretty solid for a web server. If the site continues to expand I'd eventually pick up another box and use that for a dedicated DB server.
Colo prices arent as low as I thought, i see ad's saying starting from $50 bucks, but then once you start pricing it out, it quickly goes up to $150-200$ for a decent package. WHich makes it comprable to dedicated hosting minus your ownership of the physical server.
I guess my main question is, is it advantageous to own the box or is renting it better? Lease or buy? That is the question.
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Oct 8, 2007
telling me about your offerings, or trying to convince me about out of area datacenters because of the risk of terrorism, cost, or alien invasion, I'm not seriously shopping around, just doing a bit of initial research.
With that disclaimer, what's a rough expectation of pricing for a NYC, carrier neutral datacenter for 1 cabinet with 60 amps of 110v? Preferrably somewhere that Internap is available.
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Apr 22, 2007
I have a 'complex' situation, if you will. The site I run has free access to a variety of server hardware. Sitting under my desk, I currently have:
1. Dual Xeon 5345 (quad core, 2.33GHz) with 8GB memory, mid-tower
2. Quad Opteron 8xx (dual core, 2.2GHz) with 16GB memory, 3U
3. Dual Xeon 5160 (dual core, 3GHz) with 4GB memory, mid-tower
We also have the appropriate licenses for Windows and MSSQL (which is what we use).
I am currently on a shared host that we'd like to move away from. We would like to have the ability to run both a production and a development environment. We'd also like to be able to offer web-hosting to a couple of other small sites...
So what I'm wondering is whether it really makes sense to colo. Honestly, it seems like we'll get a lot more bang for our buck versus dedicated. Most dedicated servers that are under 200 could only be described as sad and pathetic. However, they may be enough for what we need....
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