Buy A Server And Colo
Aug 3, 2007
I'm currently on a shared hosting plan and my site has gotten to the point where the server cant handle it anymore, so I have to move up. I was debating a managed dedicated server and while looking at the prices for an entry level box of $200+/mo. I began to wonder whether it might be better to buy a server and colo in some shared rackspace.
Has anyone gone this route? Is it worth it, do you save more, or does it cost even more?
I'm looking at some decent deals on ebay for HP DL380's 2Ghz+ 1GB Ram which I think should be pretty solid for a web server. If the site continues to expand I'd eventually pick up another box and use that for a dedicated DB server.
Colo prices arent as low as I thought, i see ad's saying starting from $50 bucks, but then once you start pricing it out, it quickly goes up to $150-200$ for a decent package. WHich makes it comprable to dedicated hosting minus your ownership of the physical server.
I guess my main question is, is it advantageous to own the box or is renting it better? Lease or buy? That is the question.
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Dec 16, 2007
Please give me the difference. Colo in carrier hotel, we can choose our preferred network provider, but should we do that if we cannot have our own tech in datacenter? How about the supporting service from carrier hotel? Just general question, cause I dont address exactly which facility.
And the second would be more expensive? Saying the same number of rack, amount of bandwidth... Who is providing IP addresses then?
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Oct 26, 2009
I'm looking to colo 5 servers, 3 app servers, 1 db, 1 backup/sparedb. I am looking for something to provide a bit of protection in, and it seems like the ASA5505 is a good firewall, but I was wondering if anyone had any other recommendations?
I probably won't need ridiculous features, I wish it had gigE ports (I need to get a separate gigE switch for now, just for internal transfers+backups).
Is there anything else that might be a little cheaper, or do I need to upgrade to the 5510? Myself and one other person are the only people who would be VPNing to the internal server cluster, so we don't need massive connection rights.
I do not think I will be pushing 100mbits of data transfer, so I'm not worried about the throughput of the server.
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Jun 9, 2008
I was thinking about building a TF2 server 24 slot and colocating it at colopronto. I have a P4 HT 3.2 2 gigs of ram 2x160 SATA drives. I won't be hosting any other games on the server, just one instance of TF2. I have a couple of questions.
Which is better, Windows or Linux to use? Are my hardware specs good enough? how much bandwidth do you think I'll use a month on a 24 slot server as opposed to a 32 slot? Thanks for any input.
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Mar 5, 2007
please let me know if these will work together or not and if the server can handle Windows2003 with MS SQL.
1x ASUS M2NPV-VM Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6150
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1x AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Orleans 1.8GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor (Should i go dual core?)
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4x Patriot 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory
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1x CODEGEN 4U-500-CA Black Aluminum/Steel 4U Rackmount Case
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1x COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS-430-PMSR/P 430W
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2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3250824AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB
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how's this desktop server looking? Do you think it can handle Windows 2003 Small business server and is there any restriction on how many websites you can host with Windows 2003 small business server?
this is my first time building a server for colo so far i have gather info from this board on the motherboard and the rest are picked by myself.
i want to colo with colo4dallas. is there any other place better than colo4dallas?
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Jan 23, 2008
I'm looking for a Colo provider for a 2u server in the Chicago area. I'll be running a game server that will host at least two 24 player servers, so I'm thinking I need a 10Mb unmetered connection.
Ideally, I'd like to get it at $100/mo, but I understand that may be unlikely.
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Mar 6, 2008
i got my server. I'm still shopping for hard disks but the server is pretty much there.
i'm in Houston, Texas. i'll like to know if anyone can give me tips on what to look for in colo. what question should i ask or be aware of.
my budget is $100 per month. i don't use much bandwidth and it doesn't have to be premium bandwidth with basic service.
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Jan 31, 2007
From reading these boards for a couple years now, I always had the impression that colo was cheapest in Texas or thereabouts, and was priciest in places like NYC. (Of course, I'm referring to relatively comparable service.)
Now I finally have a need for a single server colo (1U). The most-mentioned places in Texas on these boards are cologuys, colo4dallas, etc. Most of them have reasonable rates listed right on their website, around $100-170 for the bandwidth that I need, about 1.5Mbps.
But I've also been requesting quotes from various providers in NYC, who are also popular on these boards. And while there are some in the $200-250 range, which is what I was expecting, there are some that are mentioned highly on these boards (toqen, thenynoc, razorblue, etc.) that are quoting $60-100/month for the same amount of bandwidth.
I.e., not only comparable but in fact *lower* than the Texas colos.
What am I missing here? It's very possible that I'm comparing apples to oranges, cuz I really don't know any of these businesses. Just forming an opinion based on what gets recommended here on a consistent basis.
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Feb 28, 2007
Does anyone know if there are providers left in Dallas that provide single server colocation solutions? If so, who are they and what can I expect in terms of pricing?
I am used to reselling shared and dedicated servers, but I've leased them for long, I could have paid for them by now. Some of my clients have their own systems too. They tend to request Dallas.
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Dec 31, 2007
I have been reviewing online price quotes for colo hosting and dedicated server hosting. To me, common sense would be that it would be less expensive to get a cheapo used server off of ebay and have it colocated. But what I am seeing is many instances where it would would actually be less expensive per month to rent a dedicated server (which might even be a better server) - including in some cases from the very same companies that offer the colo services. Is what I am seeing typical - and, if so, why is this the case? Is there an assumption that a colo customer will use more bandwidth than a typical dedicated server customer? Is the cost of servicing a colo customer significantly greater than that of a dedicated server customer?
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Oct 7, 2006
I run my own Game Server Provider, and I am looking to expand to new a new centralized area.
I am thinking about Texas colocation. Does anyone know any good colo facilities in Texas, with affordable rates.
Server Size is a Full Size Tower
Bandwidth: 1mbps sustained, Peak 5 mbps (during peak hours: 8pm-10pm). I would imagine this server would use around 700 GB of traffic per month.
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May 12, 2008
im planning to colo server at [url]
anyone here have any review about them
the main reason for going with them is im gonna choose hongkong data center and
warez are allowed in hongkong so thats why im preferring them , because many
of my hosting customer need to host warez.
so pls get me some Suggestion If You Have Better Options and also
reviews about them.
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Jun 1, 2008
In light of whats happened at the Planet in Houston we are moving up our plans to have an external DNS nameserver (with failover) and emergency website to alert customers in the event of our data center (C4D in Dallas) ever goes down.
From all the forum messages reagrds this event its apparent that a lot of hosting companies are suffering the worst from having their support websites at the DC where they host their customers and have no way of notifying their customers of whats going on.
Looking to trade 1U of rack space and 1 ip address anywhere in US (Dallas preferred) with someone else who is looking for the same thing.
While we are extremely happy with C4D and have faith in their DC, you can never be 100% prepared for things beyond your control.
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Mar 29, 2008
I've been out of the game for a while and now looking at colo prices each server is only allocated 0.5a on most plans.
I was looking at purchasing a 1u HP DL160 dual quad core system with at least dual sata raided drives
My question is what kind of amps would a system like this pull? and how much do data centers typically charge for that additional power if it needed over the .5
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Mar 11, 2008
if anyone knew hosts (other then FDC in USA) that offers 1U-4U/midtower colocation with 100Mbit or greater uplink, with atleast 2TB of transfer. With IRC allowed.
My budget is ~$100, I'm fairly sure it can be done as I saw FDC had one for $79, and it would be fine though I was hoping if anyone knew any others.
Also, Giga-International has what I need, are they reliable?
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Dec 10, 2007
Anyone here have much experience in a facility with 48VDC (like a telco facility). Is it more trouble than it's worth?
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Jul 20, 2008
colo of a 1u server that would need 500gig per month of b/w and I perferably would like to find a DC in NY/northern NJ or southern CT although in my search I seem to be getting price quotes of $100+ per month which I think is insane when I see dedicateds with more b/w for the same amount or even less.
I know most will say just get a dedicated server somewhere but my requirments are that I need a server with a lot of ram and at least a dual cpu and dedicate's with a dual cpu and 2gigs or more of ram seem to be much more thenmy budget.
So any suggestions for a $60 or less per month colo space with 500gig of b/w or a dedicated server provider offering a server in that price range with dual cpu and 2gig ddr ram and 80gig hdd?
By the way I looked at ezzi.net which has a $49 deal on a dedicated server but no option to have one with a dual cpu:
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Jan 3, 2007
I have had experience with reselling hosting using HostGator seller. My job was basically to run my site and get customers, set up price plans etc on WHM. I sold that company a while back. I am ready to have another shot at hosting, but this time I want to use my own servers...
I have found a great site, which has customisations etc. on servers (http://www.cybertronpc.com), but they don't ship to UK. (If I'm using colo is US, could I get it shipped straight to them?)
My main question is, is colo needed? If I am going to setup this company the Data-Center is not going to be local, either London or in US. So there is no chance of me going down unless it is to pick up my server . So I think I'm going to need a maintaned service I think. The server will be used for clients data (shared hosting). So what services will I need in terms of security and stability? What am I looking for in a colo service? What about back-ups of data on the server? Is that my responsibility or can it be bought as a service? Ok... now I'm guessing that I'm going to need colo...
What are common problems etc. with servers? Am I going to need virtual IP connection for maintainance... Is it best I pay for this or a service operator? Any recommendations on where to have the colo (i'm based in UK) and why? What can I do when it is time for me to request my server back from UK?
When changing colo services is there any way of avoiding down-time?
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Jul 16, 2007
I have noticed that many web hosts offer intel celeron machines @ $55 per month...they do not own the datacenters but colocate the servers,
We are also thinking of buying 2-3 such machines @ $450 each and then coloing them in the USA
I think about 800gigs-1tb would be the bandwidth requirements per server..
we aren't interested in RACKS...we just want to colo 2-3 machines to see how fast they sell, and then maybe we might order about 10-15 servers..
who do you think can offer us a decent deal for less than $40-50 per month...all
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Oct 31, 2007
currently I have managed several dedicated servers. I plan to colo it with 1 rack at a datacentre. So, before I buy hardware or software, I need some helpful info/guide.
- I need my server can be monitored, reboot remotely. What kind of hardware is require and please suggest some models.
- Which software is suitable for billing, monitoring. Please suggest any software come with good API since I plan to develop own small control panel later.
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Jan 28, 2007
anyone knows any good colocations in orlando, FL? I need 2 mb and 300 gb for 49.99 per month.
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Mar 13, 2007
What is the best indication for a web hosting company to move from dedicated server to colocation?
I have several low end dedis and im thinking of buying an enterprise class server with lots of diskspace (raid 5, dual power, ecc, etc.), have it colocated and move all the accounts to that server. I would be saving in the long run but kinda turned-off due to all eggs in one (enterprise-class) basket dilema. I woud be saving on server management cost too because I'm signing up one machine only instead of several.
Is going colocation a natural progression of the web hosting business cycle? We start off with a Reseller Account in the beginning - then grow and lease a Dedicated Server. And then grow and lease another and another..... Is colocation the next big step?
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Jul 25, 2007
I'm considering going with CalPop for one of my colo sites. I've read the user reviews and apart from those who were chaffed because of scratched servers and reboots they seem decent enough. My take on sticking anything in a datacenter is to stick it in yourself and rent the entire rack. That should take care of 90% of the negative reviews I have read, so my question is does any one have any real review of their services? Bandwidth performance, etc?
Secondly, I need a second colo for a redundant server. I'd like to find something closer on the East coast that offers the same pricing structure and services.
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May 1, 2007
Anyone know what firewall do I need for my colo? I want to protect external IP. Here is my setup
3 servers, all have two nic cards, one of the cards will be the external IP and the other one will be LAN IP. So my question is what hardware firewall do I need to protect the External IP?
I was thinking of a cisco pix 515e. Which only route external IP to the LAN IP. I need something where I don't have to route, It just protect the external IP.
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Oct 18, 2009
I need 1U of space, .5 amp (50 watts) power, one IP, 2.5mbps bidirectional bandwidth (total of 5mbps up + down) and about 10GB of traffic per day each direction (total of 20GB up + down). Would be nice if they have remote KVM along with console (serial) access. Location should be anywhere in USA.
Purpose is to host a VPN router for various remote locations to connect in to. Reliability and good connection (low latency) is important.
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May 2, 2008
I've been a colo since the beginning of time. My servers are getting old so I've started pricing options, and it looks like dedicated is the way to go today. But I'm not sure...
I suppose it depends on the host. My host says "if you're colo, we provide admin at an hourly rate. If your machine needs a reboot, call us and we reboot it. If you're dedicated we don't touch your server beyond repairing it. If it needs a reboot, you login to our site and click a link and it is rebooted."
That doesn't seem like much of a difference. I'd need an off-site admin, but both charge by the hour, so no big deal. A live person reboot seems no better than a web-based software reboot. In fact I'll wager that the "live person" just logs in and clicks the link for me.
Colo is about twice as expensive as dedicated. That seems like the only big difference.
It also seems to me that with today's cPanel-style admin it's trivial to migrate to a new host, so competition to keep clients is intense. I'm guessing that keeps prices down. Reading between the lines of what my host says, I can tell he doesn't really want me to go dedicated. He kinda said they don't make much money on dedicated machines.
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Feb 24, 2008
Anyone have any opinions on Node2 colocation up in near Derby?
Seem to offer a good price point, but whats the service like?
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May 29, 2008
I have a web hosting business that has been growing constantly for a couple of years, now I think it's time to move on and instead of leasing servers start with colocation and operating my own hardware, I'm in Mexico and there are no good deals here as there are in other countries, so I have several questions about your appreciation of where things are better for business, US or Canada:
Where is colo cheaper?
Where is hardware cheaper?
Where is personnel less costly?
Where is personnel better qualified?
Where is office space cheaper?
Where is electrical energy cheaper?
Where are more investment opportunities?
Where are taxes lower?
Where is living less costly?
I've been researching these on my own but still have several doubts, may be you find some of this question obvious however I'd still like to know your appreciation.
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Jun 8, 2008
Which are the best colo provider in Texas. I checked cologuys, colo4dallas and zogmo.
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Jan 31, 2008
Are there any established providers that offer this? I want an established company who isn't going to run off with my server, and they need to provide high quality bandwidth(Level3, AT&T, Sprint, etc) with 100% Power SLA, etc. in a secure facility.
IE: If I buy my own servers can I ship them out to a datacenter to have them fully managed, basically being a dedicated server? Except i'll own the hardware, and they provide the bandwidth, management, etc.
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Dec 31, 2008
Can anyone recommend a descent colo in the Phoenix/Tempe area?
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