Rough Idea Of Pricing In A Carrier-neutral NYC Facility
Oct 8, 2007
telling me about your offerings, or trying to convince me about out of area datacenters because of the risk of terrorism, cost, or alien invasion, I'm not seriously shopping around, just doing a bit of initial research.
With that disclaimer, what's a rough expectation of pricing for a NYC, carrier neutral datacenter for 1 cabinet with 60 amps of 110v? Preferrably somewhere that Internap is available.
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Oct 14, 2007
Who are the reputable players in chicago ?, must be carrier neutral
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Oct 9, 2007
The company I'm currently working for is looking at colo space on the East Coast. I already have a quote from Equinix for their Ashburn DC4 - but I'm trying to do some due diligence and shop around a bit.
We're looking at 5 cabinet cages, and we have moderately high power requirements. The Equinix DC4 gives us 32kVA total availability across the 5 cabs.
Can anyone recommend other comparable facilities on the East Coast, or recommend Equinix resellers?
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Oct 9, 2007
We are in need of a colo in the Dallas area. Need a 42u rack, 3-5Mbps connection, 20A of A/B power, carrier neutral!, access by customer and escorted vendors, and most important - Type 2 SAS 70 certification!
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Aug 28, 2008
I just want to preface this by saying I was on here reading up about hosting companies, their reviews and limestone networks after a phone call with Ryan A over there, was definitely going to be my provider.
However, I ordered my server about a week ago, and have some massive issues.
First and most concerning : Support.
There has been about 4 tickets from me, with no response for about 9+ hours, one ticket (when they incorrectly installed DotNetPanel, and I couldn't start hosting domains yet even) they didn't get back to me for almost 2 days. It looked like all hope was lost.
I guess (speaking with Kris there) they're working on tightening up the provisioning time, etc. With that said, they DID in fact fix my DotNetPanel installation, and all looked well.
Lastnight I figured I'd check my bandwidth, for kicks. I've been remote desktop connecting to my machine fairly frequently, maybe for about 10 minute sessions a piece, nothing major. I have nothing running on my box, I ran a couple of tests to check out pings, server loads so I figured I'd plop a quick and simple game server up there to test it. I checked my "bandwidth report" and this is what I found out:
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Mind you, I have no mail server at all, nothing. in the span of 5 days I've used almost my entire quota, without running almost ANY serverside applications.
Currently my dedicated server remains shut down until this issue can be resolved. I entered yet another ticket lastnight, had one reply this morning, and it appears I'm back into the lost ticket desert.
Remember, just my experience. My point of view so far may change however, but at this rate it's been pretty horrible. 5 days on setting up a dedicated and have it all ready to go, I had to re-pay my old provider for another month due to Limestonenetwork's ability to not install DotNetPanel correctly, I'm pretty displeased at the moment.
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May 30, 2007
I run a "non pc" general discussion forum community, who have just been suspended for doing forum raids (our members sign up to another forum all together and spam, leaving it in ruins for the admins to clean up) not exactly nice, I know... but the members are who they are, and I like them for it.
Long shot, but is there a VPS who has a loose ToS?
The community is a lot like the one you would find on a site like 4chan, somethingawful or genmay.
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May 31, 2008
I been investigating into the Data102 located in Colorado Springs for colocation, and I am curious if anyone have any experience with them. Their network feeds seems pretty good, composing of Level3, Time Warner Telecom & Cogent Communications, with several other located in the same building such as MCI/UUNet/Verizon, Broadwing, Legacy ICG, Qwest, 360 Networks & WilTel.
From the traceroute tests, they seems to be primarly L3 network, with other 2 as lesser routes from testing on several locations.
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May 12, 2009
I wanted to try HyperVM/LxAdmin setup from sometime now. I finally have one but I am getting trouble with its Qmail MTA. I am posting here hoping to get some help.
Let me tell you the issue.
I have my main vps IP: 10.10.10.22 (I have 3 additional ips).
I have setup 2 domains on their dedicated IPs. (10.10.10.23 & 10.10.10.24). However, whenever I send an email, I get outgoing IP to be 10.10.10.22. I searched on Google and found out that I need to patch qmail with outgoingip.patch to change the outgoing IP.
But how to patch my already installed qmail??? I tried but failed.
I am running Centos 5.3 with HyperVM/Lxadmin
Also, even if I host a domain on main IP, my SPF record is always
Quote:
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 10.10.10.22 is neither permitted nor denied by domain domain.com) client-ip=10.10.10.22;
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Aug 14, 2007
I am in the market for a VPS to act as a slave node to a distributed nagios setup I am setting up for myself.
Browsing the vps forums I came across Imountain. They sounded 'unique' to me, because of the solar power they claim to use to power their servers etc.
There was no test ip listed so I just traced their domain imountain.com and the subdomain cp.imountain.com (which is their hsphere control panel server I am assuming) which pointed to: 76.79.76.100.. A traceroute of this shows business grade road runner.
Quote:
traceroute to 76.79.76.100 (76.79.76.100), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 ev1s-207-218-205-161.ev1servers.net (207.218.205.161) 0.805 ms 0.719 ms 0.719 ms
2 gphou2-209-85-1-6.ev1servers.net (209.85.1.6) 0.377 ms 0.311 ms 0.328 ms
3 gphou2-209-85-0-5.ev1servers.net (209.85.0.5) 0.331 ms 0.404 ms 0.316 ms
4 g0-10.na21.b015619-0.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.99.215.153) 7.110 ms 7.031 ms 6.768 ms
5 g4-1-1-3827.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.65.109) 6.825 ms 6.843 ms 6.803 ms
6 t4-1.mpd01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.202) 7.151 ms 6.893 ms 7.055 ms
7 t2-3.mpd01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.186) 51.286 ms 36.483 ms 42.640 ms
MPLS Label=1057 CoS=5 TTL=1 S=0
8 t3-4.mpd01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.142) 36.344 ms 36.492 ms 36.660 ms
9 adelphia.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.46) 46.306 ms 46.374 ms 46.499 ms
10 ae-2-0.c0.lax91.twc-core.net (66.109.3.129) 46.644 ms 46.882 ms 46.878 ms
11 66.109.3.174 (66.109.3.174) 36.356 ms 39.534 ms 39.423 ms
12 tge7-1.bwlaca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com (66.75.161.202) 42.348 ms tge7-2.bwlaca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com (76.166.1.22) 39.154 ms tge7-1.bwlaca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com (66.75.161.202) 42.387 ms
13 tge8-3.lsanca2-rtr1.socal.rr.com (76.166.1.1) 42.985 ms 42.935 ms 42.802 ms
14 tge9-4.covnca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com (76.166.1.51) 40.246 ms 40.087 ms 40.146 ms
15 tge9-1.pomnca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com (76.166.1.53) 43.759 ms 43.880 ms 40.578 ms
16 cpe-76-166-3-210.socal.rr.com (76.166.3.210) 46.036 ms 43.782 ms 40.713 ms
17 rrcs-76-79-76-100.west.biz.rr.com (76.79.76.100) 44.086 ms !<10> 43.934 ms !<10> 43.985 ms !<10>
Now thinking to my self, I wouldn't host anything on road runner. Its not a reliable provider in my opinion.
question: Does road runner offer 1gbit/10gbit fiber links?
I decided to drive down there since its only ~30 miles away. I was actually pretty amazed by this. Its in the middle of nowhere really. There is a gas station, a motel, their building, and a ride share. I don't see how fiber would be economical in this location unless they pulled some from devry university which is further up the road.
Speaking of ride share, its pretty funny the google & yahoo maps show the ride share as their location on areal photos.
So I went down there and took these pictures, they are not the best since I was in my silverado and all I had was my camera phone.
Proof of address: [url]
Another from the front:
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From the freeway side (i went back and took this one after i left):
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There was no apparent solar panels on the ground level, which leaves me to believe they were on the roof, from the ground in my truck I couldn't see any on the roof so I cannot confirm that.
The questions that remain are this:
1.) Is there solar panels? and with a building that size how many would be needed to sustain it?
2.) Are they using road runner to host? If so does road runner do 1gbit fiber links?... that HAS to be pricey if they do.
3.) How secure is that building? It looks like a pretty basic office building.
4.) Air conditioning? Does that building have ample cooling?
These things I would never know because they do not allow tours of the facility.
Does any one have an vps with an Ip I can traceroute? I am curious to their network setup as they are very vague on it.
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Apr 1, 2009
I want to understand the Idea of DDOSING
If I have a server with a a gb /second port so no one can DDOS me ?
or if the hacker have a servers with a gb/ port he can destroy any thing ?
second question
sometimes people hjave ip tables to filter all the packets to the server these people some times go down for ddosing too WHY ? why the IP tables cant filter the packets of this type of DDOSING?
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Nov 19, 2008
I don't have raid in my dedicated box as it's usually way more expensive. Instead I have two drives. I use one for OS/data and one for backups. I do nightly backups to the disk. I also do 3 weekly off site backups to my home server. So as far as backups I'm safe.
Now the issue is if the disk fails then my server is down. Do lot of people take this risk in order to save money? (often 50-100 per month)
In people's experiences, how long does it typically take for a data center to put in a new drive and load the OS?
In a 3+ disk server I'd use software raid for the data but the OS would still be alone.
Do lot of people do this?
With 10 servers, that's a lot of money saved for a small enough risk.
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Apr 25, 2009
We are in the process building a new colocation facility and I wanted to take some input from everyone here. We have most of the infrastructure planning and layout done but were still early on in the construction phase so now is the last chance to get some input. I have two main questions I wanted to ask.
1)When your looking for a colocation facility what things are most important to you?
2)Have you ever wished that datacenters offered something outside the normal things that most providers do.
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Jul 16, 2009
I am thinking of colocating with these guys. I am just wondering if anyone on this forum has colocated with them before. I know that they host some big websites such as isohunt so I am assuming that they are good.
Any reviews on this company?
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Dec 12, 2007
Which colo facility in West Coast using NTT in their upstreams?
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Sep 24, 2009
We're having a meeting today with Comcast about letting them move fiber into our facility. Please do not post experiences with Comcast CABLE. I want to know your experience as other datacenters and hosts with Comcast Fiber. What do you know about their fiber and what is your experience with them in both standalone and BGP?
Reliability, latency, peering quality, etc. We are in the Houston area, where so far I have heard they are pretty good with most I have talked to, and a few negatives. At what level would you use their connection?
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Oct 1, 2009
As we have been extending our private peering relationships across the US and Europe we are also looking to consolidate our carriers to simply Tier 1 and/or near Tier 1 providers. One of these providers will certainly be Level(3), but we are still not fully decided on other carriers.
Now, what I am looking for here is, which network combination would most impress you as a customer/potential customer. I am not looking for price based analysis or analysis of dealing with a company's billing or support departments. I already have the data I need for those determinations. The point of this poll is solely to get end-user input as to overall network performance/reliability and how the network would compliment the existing carrier, Level(3). Please elaborate as to your decision in a post to the thread.
Note: We have already done significant research, this poll is simply to help confirm research we have already done or to bring about items/issues we may have overlooked or not considered. Figured we'd take advantage of the knowledge of this community before making a final decision.
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Oct 7, 2006
I run my own Game Server Provider, and I am looking to expand to new a new centralized area.
I am thinking about Texas colocation. Does anyone know any good colo facilities in Texas, with affordable rates.
Server Size is a Full Size Tower
Bandwidth: 1mbps sustained, Peak 5 mbps (during peak hours: 8pm-10pm). I would imagine this server would use around 700 GB of traffic per month.
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Jan 7, 2008
Just wondering how I can disable the backup function in my customers cpanel. I do not want them to have the ability to backup, as it takes up a lot of space. Is it in the WHM backup section? Not sure which option it correlates to.
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Jun 9, 2008
I am considering signing up for a very well-received host on this site and around the net. It is DowntownHost. They have a promotion right now where you can get 25% off for life. They have tiered plans. So you if you pay for 1, 2 or 3 years upfront, for example, you will be paying *a lot* less per month than if you paid just monthly. Add in this 25% off promotion, and you can see some big savings.
Now, for most hosts that you haven't tried, I would say no way commit your money for a year. But DowntownHost's reputation precedes them so well, this could be an exception.
Plus, they have a 90-day money back guarantee where you would get all your money back if you don't like the service.
So my thinking is that I should no whether or not I am going to stick with a host within 90 days. That is plenty of time. But, then again, your money is tied up for 1, 2 or 3 years after that 90 days, and if something goes wrong, you are up a creek without a paddle. Plus, I have heard (in general, not with DowntownHost specifically), that your support level could decrease after your trial period if you have paid for an extended plan because, well, they have your money, so what do they care.
What are people's opinion on this?
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Sep 14, 2009
We are switching from a reseller that blends several carriers to Level3, to reduce our b/w costs (by a factor of 3x). We are driving upwards of 300Mbps currently.
Is Level3 reliable enough in terms of uptime to be our *only* carrier?
We are running a real-time always-on service with long-lived TCP connections, so frequent disconnections would be problematic. A single downtime of a couple of minutes per month would not be too bad on the other hand.
Switching our stuff to Level3 is a lot of work as it is.
Getting a second provider for the failover, which involves setting up a CISCO edge router with BGP, getting an AS number from ARIN, will make this task too big at this point. Is L3 reliable enough on its own to spare this hassle of a second ISP?
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May 3, 2008
I'm interested in creating a small website exposing the biggest overselling companies, and how their overselling practices are false marketing.
Simply put, I want to benchmark each host with exact tests for accuracy. Any idea how I can fairly test each host, e.g. benchmark?
After the tests have been performed, I will explain which are the worst hosts (e.g. the first to give me the boot due to some TOS clause, e.g. cpu usage), etc.
Also, would anyone like to help out with this project? I'll be putting some nice marketing into it.
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Mar 1, 2008
I was just working on some concepts for image upload security features and wanted some others opinions. Would the below be worth doing to not have to deal with the 777 or even 775 phpsu issue(s)?
- What about loading the images into a db and logging the upload. Then having a cron or a daemon move the file to a location under the owner (user) and then delete the file out of the db.
Pros:
- Images would be loaded and displayed from under the user of the site making no 777 issues.
Con:
- Mass use of db could cause crashes?
- Would have to write front end to know if the file was in db or in the folder location
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Dec 27, 2007
This is a carrier. They connect or own sub-ocean lines and connects various continents - the areas of interest to me. Their locations where there network footprints are have my clients. My clients are in NYC/India primarily. Where should I colo the servers based on the map below.
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Sep 17, 2007
My contract is up for one of my data centers and I just got hit with a new price increase per AMP! From $15/AMP to $23/AMP? Am I nuts or is this price VERY high? The data center is on long island. What is everyone else seeing?
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Aug 20, 2009
I'm going to start offering a KVMoIP service for my customers and am trying to get ideas on the pricing. What do y'all think about it? I know most places that I know about charge a setup + hourly fee, well, I like to be just a little bit better, so let's see what y'all have to say.
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Feb 12, 2008
colo in Montreal even though prices appear to be much higher than pretty much anywhere else.
I just got offered 450$ for half cab ( 15A ) and 250$ per mbps, 3 mbps commit for 12 months.
Provider is pretty big and tier 2 network.
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May 2, 2008
I'm really just asking this out of interest and please pardon my ignorance. (I don't actually need a provider or anything now)
I've been looking around at pricing for colocation, and from what I've found, they start at around US$90/month.
From what I can tell, a colo provider basically offers you some rack space, a power port and of course, the internet line (maybe a few extra cables and such). What I don't get is that, looking at pricing for dedicated servers, they also seem to start at around US$90/month.
But with a dedicated server, aren't you paying for the rack space, the power, the internet _and_ an entire server? (BTW, I'm comparing similar features, that is, the colo provider is offering 1TB transfer per month, and so is the dedicated hosting provider). So why is colo costing around the same price as dedicated hosting? Is this usually the case, or is my comparison across multiple providers just faulty?
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Apr 10, 2008
I am in the UK looking for web hosting (possible a vps) with at least 6GB storage. I am confused why there is such a difference in price between companies offers.
E.g Kuala and Supanames are about £420 per year for a basic vps.
If i go to the EUKhost.com website they offer a vps for £240.
Is it because the first 2 companies offer a better service or are they just expensive, or are they set at a normal price and the EUKhost is cheap because it is not very good?
Any advice gratefully received.
Also if anyone has had any experience with any of these companies please share it.
Or if you know if a reasonably priced VPS - where you KNOW the service is good please tell me about it.
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May 20, 2008
Can anyone give me a rough estimate of what I should be expected to pay for the following bandwidth commitments from Verizon:
45Mbps (DS3)
100Mbps (FE)
155Mbps (OC3)
1Gbps (Gig-E)
This location would be a Verizon central office. Anyone know of a good Verizon sales representative or reseller?
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Oct 31, 2007
I am working with one of the new DCs that we deal with to negotiate some colo pricing and setups. They are not huge on colo, in fact they do very little of it. Hard to believe out of about 1200 servers in their DC, their colo section will not even fill 2 to 3 racks.
They do not even have a setup to price based on per Mbps, I'm sure they know about where they need to be if they dig into it, but they want me to work up a proposal based on what I need (they are working hard to work with me and keep our business).
Their network is fine, nothing outstanding but plenty strong for our needs.
They use mostly Time Warner and Level 3. I think I can even setup with them to provide my own rack, which I prefer to do since it would keep only our servers in the rack.
My question is, from those who have plenty experience on different levels at different Mbps pricing, what is average and reasonable considering those 2 carriers? If I provide a rack, they will provide power, UPS, etc. Aside from that, I need advice on what to expect on the pricing of the bandwidth.
I may also end up using my own Cisco switch in the rack, I haven't cleared that up yet.
If I start off @ 10 Mbps in the rack, and work up, about where should this be on BW pricing?
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May 3, 2007
Does Level3 charge the same price per rack at every one of their datacenters, or is it dependent on the location? For example, how much would a rack in the Houston datacenter cost compared to the Dallas datacenter? Please no sales people contact me I am just asking to do some research.
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