Take A Colo Package Or Colo In A Carrier Hotel With Your Own Network
Dec 16, 2007
Please give me the difference. Colo in carrier hotel, we can choose our preferred network provider, but should we do that if we cannot have our own tech in datacenter? How about the supporting service from carrier hotel? Just general question, cause I dont address exactly which facility.
And the second would be more expensive? Saying the same number of rack, amount of bandwidth... Who is providing IP addresses then?
I have a 1u server that I'm looking to colo. I looked around the forums but I can't seem to find exactly what I need.
I'd prefer if the hosting company was large, owned its own datacenter (as opposed to leasing), offered proactive (automated) monitoring services, remote reboot, and a superb network with little or no downtime.
I like liquidweb but it looks like they only have 500gb / month up and down or a dedicated line capped at 10mbps line. I need something in between, around 1000GB / month up and down with 100mbps port. Support doesn't really matter, nor does price.
This is a carrier. They connect or own sub-ocean lines and connects various continents - the areas of interest to me. Their locations where there network footprints are have my clients. My clients are in NYC/India primarily. Where should I colo the servers based on the map below.
colo of a 1u server that would need 500gig per month of b/w and I perferably would like to find a DC in NY/northern NJ or southern CT although in my search I seem to be getting price quotes of $100+ per month which I think is insane when I see dedicateds with more b/w for the same amount or even less.
I know most will say just get a dedicated server somewhere but my requirments are that I need a server with a lot of ram and at least a dual cpu and dedicate's with a dual cpu and 2gigs or more of ram seem to be much more thenmy budget.
So any suggestions for a $60 or less per month colo space with 500gig of b/w or a dedicated server provider offering a server in that price range with dual cpu and 2gig ddr ram and 80gig hdd?
By the way I looked at ezzi.net which has a $49 deal on a dedicated server but no option to have one with a dual cpu:
I have had experience with reselling hosting using HostGator seller. My job was basically to run my site and get customers, set up price plans etc on WHM. I sold that company a while back. I am ready to have another shot at hosting, but this time I want to use my own servers...
I have found a great site, which has customisations etc. on servers (http://www.cybertronpc.com), but they don't ship to UK. (If I'm using colo is US, could I get it shipped straight to them?)
My main question is, is colo needed? If I am going to setup this company the Data-Center is not going to be local, either London or in US. So there is no chance of me going down unless it is to pick up my server . So I think I'm going to need a maintaned service I think. The server will be used for clients data (shared hosting). So what services will I need in terms of security and stability? What am I looking for in a colo service? What about back-ups of data on the server? Is that my responsibility or can it be bought as a service? Ok... now I'm guessing that I'm going to need colo...
What are common problems etc. with servers? Am I going to need virtual IP connection for maintainance... Is it best I pay for this or a service operator? Any recommendations on where to have the colo (i'm based in UK) and why? What can I do when it is time for me to request my server back from UK?
When changing colo services is there any way of avoiding down-time?
What is the best indication for a web hosting company to move from dedicated server to colocation?
I have several low end dedis and im thinking of buying an enterprise class server with lots of diskspace (raid 5, dual power, ecc, etc.), have it colocated and move all the accounts to that server. I would be saving in the long run but kinda turned-off due to all eggs in one (enterprise-class) basket dilema. I woud be saving on server management cost too because I'm signing up one machine only instead of several.
Is going colocation a natural progression of the web hosting business cycle? We start off with a Reseller Account in the beginning - then grow and lease a Dedicated Server. And then grow and lease another and another..... Is colocation the next big step?
I'm considering going with CalPop for one of my colo sites. I've read the user reviews and apart from those who were chaffed because of scratched servers and reboots they seem decent enough. My take on sticking anything in a datacenter is to stick it in yourself and rent the entire rack. That should take care of 90% of the negative reviews I have read, so my question is does any one have any real review of their services? Bandwidth performance, etc?
Secondly, I need a second colo for a redundant server. I'd like to find something closer on the East coast that offers the same pricing structure and services.
I need 1U of space, .5 amp (50 watts) power, one IP, 2.5mbps bidirectional bandwidth (total of 5mbps up + down) and about 10GB of traffic per day each direction (total of 20GB up + down). Would be nice if they have remote KVM along with console (serial) access. Location should be anywhere in USA.
Purpose is to host a VPN router for various remote locations to connect in to. Reliability and good connection (low latency) is important.
I've been a colo since the beginning of time. My servers are getting old so I've started pricing options, and it looks like dedicated is the way to go today. But I'm not sure...
I suppose it depends on the host. My host says "if you're colo, we provide admin at an hourly rate. If your machine needs a reboot, call us and we reboot it. If you're dedicated we don't touch your server beyond repairing it. If it needs a reboot, you login to our site and click a link and it is rebooted."
That doesn't seem like much of a difference. I'd need an off-site admin, but both charge by the hour, so no big deal. A live person reboot seems no better than a web-based software reboot. In fact I'll wager that the "live person" just logs in and clicks the link for me.
Colo is about twice as expensive as dedicated. That seems like the only big difference.
It also seems to me that with today's cPanel-style admin it's trivial to migrate to a new host, so competition to keep clients is intense. I'm guessing that keeps prices down. Reading between the lines of what my host says, I can tell he doesn't really want me to go dedicated. He kinda said they don't make much money on dedicated machines.
I have a web hosting business that has been growing constantly for a couple of years, now I think it's time to move on and instead of leasing servers start with colocation and operating my own hardware, I'm in Mexico and there are no good deals here as there are in other countries, so I have several questions about your appreciation of where things are better for business, US or Canada:
Where is colo cheaper? Where is hardware cheaper? Where is personnel less costly? Where is personnel better qualified? Where is office space cheaper? Where is electrical energy cheaper? Where are more investment opportunities? Where are taxes lower? Where is living less costly?
I've been researching these on my own but still have several doubts, may be you find some of this question obvious however I'd still like to know your appreciation.
Are there any established providers that offer this? I want an established company who isn't going to run off with my server, and they need to provide high quality bandwidth(Level3, AT&T, Sprint, etc) with 100% Power SLA, etc. in a secure facility.
IE: If I buy my own servers can I ship them out to a datacenter to have them fully managed, basically being a dedicated server? Except i'll own the hardware, and they provide the bandwidth, management, etc.
I've always had to use a bandwidth mix. I recently got offered a great deal on a full rack/cabinet with 30 Mbps of Level3 and Qwest bandwidth in the Chicago area and am thinking about moving my dedicated servers to colo.
I would appreciate your opinions and assistance with these questions.
What is considered a good deal for a full rack, power, and 30 Mbps of Level 3/Qwest bandwidth in the Chicago area? Assuming that it's in a nice and secure datacenter.
Is Level 3 still considered a top bandwidth provider these days?
How good is it compared (in terms of network quality, latency, etc.) to providers like Abovenet, Mzima, and Internap?
Lastly, how does Qwest bandwidth rate among the other carriers?
The company i work for is growing at a rapid pace. We need to decide on if we want to colo or add better,bigger connection to our office.
We currently have DSL from Att 6/1 in downtown chicago.
Our product is a web app which people login and use. It runs in IIS, the user can see there data in various forms when the web server makes MS SQL query on the MS SQL that is also on the web server box which is 2u. The user can also download pdf report which range in size from 2meg to 30megs. Due to a limits of our dsl connection the more user's that use it the slower the end user's experience is due to the inet bottleneck. So our option is to get a T1 from ATT,covad or other provider or colo our server.
what factors should i take into account when looking at colo's in the chicago area. I am not sure how much b.w. this apps uses or any other factors the server would be a Dell 2950.
I have a friend running a Sun v40z server with VMWare, and I am currently renting a virtual "box" from him. I'm just getting my feet wet with this, so I told him to start me out really low and let me work up as I see the need.
He has started me with a 512kbps 95th percentile plan. I am planning on hosting a few smaller sites in my area that would probably at most use a gig of bandwidth or so per month. I've tried doing the math etc, but I am finding it hard to find a general number of sites like this that I could run without overages. I realize I can spike over my 512 for 36 hours or less per month without overages, I would just like an idea of how many sites like I described it would take to do so. ^_^;
So I figured I would ask the folks with experience in this area, before I go out and sell a bunch of accounts I can't handle without some intense overages.
I am using DirectAdmin on this server also, if that's of any relevance.
3) Cancelling after confirming to show up for a hardware pickup
4) Billing you for months on end after you cancel
5) Not unracking the servers and making clients wait over 2 hours to help THEIR techs unrack boxes
6) Releasing servers to my customers directly for a fee without my authorization (I was holding onto customer's hardware as they owed me money for past due invoices- these servers became released to the client without my knowledgs who then went direct with corporate colo -- see complaint 7 below)
7) Stealing our customers by offering a lower fee to them to get them to "go direct" by saying - sure you can keep your ips, we'll just take it away from your host and let you keep them
8) Giving us the wrong box (YEP They gave us ANOTHER client's box AND called us up begging for us to return it 2 hours later ... all on my dime)
All of this is documented so if they want to come on here and argue, I'd be MORE THAN HAPPY to blast them further.
STAY AWAY FROM CORPORATE COLO - one of the most unprofessional, vindictive, childish and corrupt colocation companies out there