Power Pricing

Dec 13, 2007

What do you think the Standard Pricing for power should be in Toronto.

I heard $10 /amp how does that sound, Im just doing some research thanks for your comments.

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Power Supplies: Do Redundant Supplies Use More Power Than A Single Supply

Jul 27, 2009

do dual power supplies use more power than a single supply?

E.g. Say I have a server than uses two amps, powered by a single power supply. Now if I switch to a dual supply (and say each supply has the same efficiency rating as the single), does my server use more power? How much more?

My simple view of this is that it probably does, but maybe not much. The second power supply consumes some power itself, but since its not under load, it doesn't consume much. Therefore, my server with redundant supplies might use 2.1A or 2.2A.

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Pricing Per AMP

Sep 17, 2007

My contract is up for one of my data centers and I just got hit with a new price increase per AMP! From $15/AMP to $23/AMP? Am I nuts or is this price VERY high? The data center is on long island. What is everyone else seeing?

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Pricing On New Service

Aug 20, 2009

I'm going to start offering a KVMoIP service for my customers and am trying to get ideas on the pricing. What do y'all think about it? I know most places that I know about charge a setup + hourly fee, well, I like to be just a little bit better, so let's see what y'all have to say.

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Montreal Pricing

Feb 12, 2008

colo in Montreal even though prices appear to be much higher than pretty much anywhere else.

I just got offered 450$ for half cab ( 15A ) and 250$ per mbps, 3 mbps commit for 12 months.

Provider is pretty big and tier 2 network.

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Colocation Pricing

May 2, 2008

I'm really just asking this out of interest and please pardon my ignorance. (I don't actually need a provider or anything now)

I've been looking around at pricing for colocation, and from what I've found, they start at around US$90/month.

From what I can tell, a colo provider basically offers you some rack space, a power port and of course, the internet line (maybe a few extra cables and such). What I don't get is that, looking at pricing for dedicated servers, they also seem to start at around US$90/month.

But with a dedicated server, aren't you paying for the rack space, the power, the internet _and_ an entire server? (BTW, I'm comparing similar features, that is, the colo provider is offering 1TB transfer per month, and so is the dedicated hosting provider). So why is colo costing around the same price as dedicated hosting? Is this usually the case, or is my comparison across multiple providers just faulty?

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Confused Over Pricing

Apr 10, 2008

I am in the UK looking for web hosting (possible a vps) with at least 6GB storage. I am confused why there is such a difference in price between companies offers.

E.g Kuala and Supanames are about £420 per year for a basic vps.

If i go to the EUKhost.com website they offer a vps for £240.

Is it because the first 2 companies offer a better service or are they just expensive, or are they set at a normal price and the EUKhost is cheap because it is not very good?

Any advice gratefully received.
Also if anyone has had any experience with any of these companies please share it.

Or if you know if a reasonably priced VPS - where you KNOW the service is good please tell me about it.

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Verizon / MCI Pricing

May 20, 2008

Can anyone give me a rough estimate of what I should be expected to pay for the following bandwidth commitments from Verizon:

45Mbps (DS3)
100Mbps (FE)
155Mbps (OC3)
1Gbps (Gig-E)

This location would be a Verizon central office. Anyone know of a good Verizon sales representative or reseller?

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Per Mbps Pricing

Oct 31, 2007

I am working with one of the new DCs that we deal with to negotiate some colo pricing and setups. They are not huge on colo, in fact they do very little of it. Hard to believe out of about 1200 servers in their DC, their colo section will not even fill 2 to 3 racks.

They do not even have a setup to price based on per Mbps, I'm sure they know about where they need to be if they dig into it, but they want me to work up a proposal based on what I need (they are working hard to work with me and keep our business).

Their network is fine, nothing outstanding but plenty strong for our needs.

They use mostly Time Warner and Level 3. I think I can even setup with them to provide my own rack, which I prefer to do since it would keep only our servers in the rack.

My question is, from those who have plenty experience on different levels at different Mbps pricing, what is average and reasonable considering those 2 carriers? If I provide a rack, they will provide power, UPS, etc. Aside from that, I need advice on what to expect on the pricing of the bandwidth.

I may also end up using my own Cisco switch in the rack, I haven't cleared that up yet.
If I start off @ 10 Mbps in the rack, and work up, about where should this be on BW pricing?

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Level3 Pricing

May 3, 2007

Does Level3 charge the same price per rack at every one of their datacenters, or is it dependent on the location? For example, how much would a rack in the Houston datacenter cost compared to the Dallas datacenter? Please no sales people contact me I am just asking to do some research.

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SPLA Pricing For WK8 Out Yet

Nov 19, 2007

Is the SPLA pricing for Windows 2008 server out yet?

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Colocation Like FDC Pricing In CA, Los Angles

Nov 5, 2009

Colocation like FDC Pricing in CA, Los Angles?

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XO Pricing Tampa/Florida

Apr 3, 2008

Anyone have a ball park figure of what to expect $/MB? on a 100 or 200 megabit Commit From XO in the Tampa/FL market. Also other than Cogent Who else has aggressive pricing at the same commit level as above in the Tampa Market?

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Wholesale Colo Pricing

Jan 30, 2008

We're doing some research trying to determine what people would consider to be average, good, great and excellent colo pricing for full rack, cage square footage price and power per amp pricing. We're not looking for comparisons of other offers but rather what people's real pricing opinions are for this type of service. Service would be in a major market and well connected facility with all major carriers available.

Bandwidth pricing per Mbps can be included but doesn't need to be if this would be carrier neutral colo.

So we're looking for:

Rack:
Average
Good
Great
Excellent

Cage Square Footage:
Average
Good
Great
Excellent

Power per Amp:
Average
Good
Great Excellent

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Current 100Mbps/4U Pricing

Feb 16, 2007

I've been happily hosted in Equinix Ashburn for over a year now, so I haven't been looking into price changes over the past months. However, my colo provider suddenly decided to raise prices by 20% on me, saying that space and bandwidth has become scarce over the past year and their own cost went up by 75%. So they are asking me to lock the new hiked price by signing a new contract, otherwise I won't be able to get such offer from them or any other provider in that location.

Before signing anything, I'm trying to get a feel of the current prices. I see a lot of ads in here for same bw and space, but I'm sure there are variations in the level of service they provide, depending on the colo company, location, bw providers, package type, etc... So, just as crude estimate, can you please tell in general whether prices/costs has went up or down or stayed the same since last year, and by how much?

And if someone has experience with Equinix/Ashburn, what would be a reasonable price for a dedicated 100Mbps/4U colocation with a quality bandwidth provider?

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How Will Bandwidth Pricing Change In 2009

Dec 30, 2008

I just read that online ad revenue is expected to drop *dramatically* in 2009 as a result of budget cuts, much more careful spending as well as companies who still have significant budgets to spend expecting large discounts. As a company that is a "publisher" (we put other people's ads on our sites) this can potentially make a big a difference to us.

I'm wondering how bandwidth pricing is going change the coming year.

We're very much pushed to sign a contract (before 2008 ends) with a *true* tier-1 provider (not Cogent, hint hint) for a multiple gigabit, 12 month commit at under $5 a meg. That's very attractive to us but I can't help but wonder what's going to happen in 2009...

Best of luck to everyone in 2009, it's shaping up to be a challenging year to many.

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Colo Vs Dedicated Server Pricing

Dec 31, 2007

I have been reviewing online price quotes for colo hosting and dedicated server hosting. To me, common sense would be that it would be less expensive to get a cheapo used server off of ebay and have it colocated. But what I am seeing is many instances where it would would actually be less expensive per month to rent a dedicated server (which might even be a better server) - including in some cases from the very same companies that offer the colo services. Is what I am seeing typical - and, if so, why is this the case? Is there an assumption that a colo customer will use more bandwidth than a typical dedicated server customer? Is the cost of servicing a colo customer significantly greater than that of a dedicated server customer?

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US/EU Datacenter And Colo Service With Economical Ip Pricing

Sep 1, 2009

Can anyone recommend service provider in US and EU who can provide IP's at economical price. Something like /24 for $50 or less.

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Normal Pricing For Dual Quad Cores

Jun 4, 2009

servers for a freehosting project and came across a good quote on some dual quad core amds for $320 a month. Is this about right? I don't want to give the exact location away as this was a custom quote but it's located in chicago. The network is Internap FCP optimized with internap, level3, and comcast.

Specs:

Quad Core AMD Opteron® 2376; 2.3 GHz,6M Cache,1Ghz HyperTransport

2 x 500GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive

RAID1

16GB (4x4GB), 800MHz, Dual Ranked

I might get a couple more for virtualization.

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Intel CPU Price Cuts = Better Dedicated Pricing

Apr 21, 2008

Intel just hacked its CPU pricing, especially the quad core.

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Perhaps we will see this show up in cheaper and/or faster dedicated servers. I guess I better wait another week or two before getting that new box!

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Rough Idea Of Pricing In A Carrier-neutral NYC Facility

Oct 8, 2007

telling me about your offerings, or trying to convince me about out of area datacenters because of the risk of terrorism, cost, or alien invasion, I'm not seriously shopping around, just doing a bit of initial research.

With that disclaimer, what's a rough expectation of pricing for a NYC, carrier neutral datacenter for 1 cabinet with 60 amps of 110v? Preferrably somewhere that Internap is available.

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National Cloud, Colocation, And DC Real Estate Pricing, Etc. Seminar

Oct 25, 2009

I've worked with quite a few clients, and seen many posts with WHT, related to understanding service provider / site selection and total cost of ownership analysis. Are you familiar with the power-based TCO model?

We've produced some upcoming events to help...I hope you will come out for these seminars and cocktail networking hour: ...

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Dual Opteron / Dual Xeon Dedicated Pricing

May 26, 2008

if these were decent pricing for the following dedicated servers:

DUAL QUAD-CORE XEON
2x XEON 5345 (8x 2.33ghz)
2GB FB-DDR2 667 RAM
250GB HDD
THIS CONFIG - $350 / mo

DUAL DUAL-CORE OPTERON 285
2x OPTERON 285 (4x 2.66ghz)
2GB DDR 400 REG/ECC
250GB HDD
THIS CONFIG - $250 / mo

SINGLE QUAD CORE Q6600
1x Core 2 Quad (4x 2.40ghz)
2GB DDR2 1066 RAM
250GB HDD
THIS CONFIG - $200 / mo

They are all listed as 10mbit unmetered and they show the following for their providers:

Qwest, MCI/Verizon, Savvis and BTN

Does it seem about right? I'm new to hosting and just wanted to make sure that it is decent pricing.

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Power

Dec 2, 2007

I just signed my agreement for 2 cabinets at Internap's Atlanta CoLo. For now, I will just have 1 120V 20A circuit in each cabinet.

At my office's server room we currently have 8 circuits I am powering my 2 racks from. I am just curious how many servers you can typically put on a 20A circuit. I am also considering adding two additional power feeds (1 more for each cabinet) to have truly redundant power for my dual power supplies.

I am hoping that 20A is plenty for my needs. I have around 20 HP and Dell systems. Mostly HP DL380s and Dell PE2950s.

Any ideas? I am splitting them in half, only filling up a half of each cabinet for now, as we are growing quickly and I wanted to overguy space so I would not be forced to add another cabinet later and have it end up somewhere else in the DC.

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Power Metering

Sep 10, 2009

I wonder if any colocation providers here have any tips for measuring power. Currently I'm using APC 7900 power strips with amperage meter. I'm not a power expert by any means but I want to be able to calculate whats the cost having a server drawing 2 amps 24/7 365 days week.

Our secondary site gave us a whopping power bill, and at our own data center we never considered charging our customers for power.

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Power Consumption

Aug 10, 2009

I need to know what happens when a rack has capped its (lets say) 5A limit. I'm trying to calculate what exactly I can put into a rack and am considering that not all servers are going to be 100% load, as that would be bad performance anyway.

I guess it could do the following (but really don't know):

Cap performance of all servers

Cause system failures

Trip

The rack would have servers, a switch and perhaps a Remote Power Strip and Firewall. I don't know how they would be affected.

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Power Estimate

Apr 8, 2008

how much power the average hard drive would use? (ie a 1tb drive). I was looking on WDC's website and it said 7.5 watts peak durring writing and reading etc, so assuming thats at 110 voltage, would it be safe to assume that 12 drives @ 7.5 watts each would make a total of .81 amps? I am going off of the equation that Amps = Watts/Volts. So amps = 90/110

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Low End VPS To Power Forum

Jun 21, 2008

"Can i host a small forum at a 64mb ram vps with lighttpd and mysql? How many users can i have online?" I said that he can do that.Is this answer true?

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Servers That Use Little Power

Feb 4, 2008

I've been doing research, and looking around on Google for a list of processors that use little power.

What are some of the processors out now a days that have minimal power usage?

Chassis will be SuperMicro's with 1-4 GB ram, if that's of any use.

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Colocation Power

Jan 13, 2008

We are transitioning from an on-site data center to a collocation facility and are having problems negotiating the right amount of power, the type of connections, and the PDU power strips that we need.

For simplicity lets say that we are going to rent a 10 ft by 10 ft cage area. This should house 4-5 rack cabinets.

The amount of power we are given for this area varies with the lowest being 120 watts/sq. ft and the highest being 175 watts/sq. ft.

With 120 watts per square foot that comes out to about 6.25 circuits that are 20 amps for a 10x10 space.

For the initial setup we would have a Cisco 73xx Router, a HP 26xx switch, an Avocent IP KVM, an EMC CX3-10 SAN, and our Dell PowerEdge 2950 III servers (4).

Using the calculator at: dell.com/calc I show the power requirements for all of the Dell equipment to be:

C13 Power Cord Qty: 12
Amperage on C13 Cords: 26.49 amps
System Heat/Power: 2754.6 watts
Total Current: 13.24 amps

The way I was envisioning this was Rack 1: Router, Switching, KVM on a 20 amp circuit and Rack 2: Dell Equipment on a 30 amp circuit. Is that right?

Additionally, I'm confused about single phase vs. three phase power in the data center and what most people choose to implement. I've heard talk of getting redundant power in each cabinet but that seems like you limit yourself to half of your space doing it that way.

And the last thing is it's confusing about what type of PDU you need to put in your racks to make it all come together. All of our equipment should be using IEC C13 cords and we're thinking about going with Avocent for all of the KVM/PDU so we can centrally manage it.

It seems to me that if the cost is roughly the same we should be pressing as hard as possible for the highest watts/square foot since that seems to be one of the most important commodities in any data center.

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Power Requirements

Feb 16, 2008

How much does a typical quad core Xeon eat, say an E5410 or a E7320? a 2GB RAM stick? A 500-750GB SATA disk? How much is the system overhead for a 1U unit? I tried to find data on this without too much success. For example Intel says the same number (80W) for an 1.6GHz CPU and a 2.4GHz one -- that does not sound too reliable to me.

If this is too abstract, then I would like to ask aobut the real world power consumption of two boxes. 1 E5410, 8GB of RAM, 2 SATA disk maybe 10K RPM. The other will have two E7320, 24-32GB of RAM and 3 10-15K disk.

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