Wholesale Colo Pricing
Jan 30, 2008
We're doing some research trying to determine what people would consider to be average, good, great and excellent colo pricing for full rack, cage square footage price and power per amp pricing. We're not looking for comparisons of other offers but rather what people's real pricing opinions are for this type of service. Service would be in a major market and well connected facility with all major carriers available.
Bandwidth pricing per Mbps can be included but doesn't need to be if this would be carrier neutral colo.
So we're looking for:
Rack:
Average
Good
Great
Excellent
Cage Square Footage:
Average
Good
Great
Excellent
Power per Amp:
Average
Good
Great Excellent
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Dec 31, 2007
I have been reviewing online price quotes for colo hosting and dedicated server hosting. To me, common sense would be that it would be less expensive to get a cheapo used server off of ebay and have it colocated. But what I am seeing is many instances where it would would actually be less expensive per month to rent a dedicated server (which might even be a better server) - including in some cases from the very same companies that offer the colo services. Is what I am seeing typical - and, if so, why is this the case? Is there an assumption that a colo customer will use more bandwidth than a typical dedicated server customer? Is the cost of servicing a colo customer significantly greater than that of a dedicated server customer?
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Sep 1, 2009
Can anyone recommend service provider in US and EU who can provide IP's at economical price. Something like /24 for $50 or less.
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Dec 1, 2008
Wholesale Internet HAS THE WORST BILLING SYSTEM / CUSTOMER SUPPORT SYSTEM EVER
It has been 3 months and I have yet received my refund. If your server is up then its fine but I have contacted Aaron (great guy) 30+ times but he's always busy
Here's the issue. In ubersmith we have paypal + a spare credit card running. I setup a paypal subscription so I was to be billed automatically.
Ubersmith however was not tracking the subscription payments and instead billed our credit card.
This left me with double the charges for 3 months on my credit card and paypal ...
I have asked for a refund since September and have heard NOTHING.
I have vouched for Wholesale internet plenty but if this does not get taken care of Aaron I will be chargebacking every single charge for the last year ... maybe that'll get your attention
The billing department = Rebecca - a woman who neither answers the phone nor emails
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Jul 25, 2008
We aquired a dedicated with wholesaleinternet a few months back. Other than slightly annoying but very short periods of downtime several times a week there were no major problems. Then the server became unreachable.
After many hours I finally get a tech response to my priority TT stating a fsck had to be performed. My initial worry was that the HD was failing as huge sectors should not be corrupt - certainly no software was running to cause this.
Over the next 2 weeks the server went down every 24-48 hours with exactly the same problem and the same resolution. Each time it took over 4 hours for a priority TT to be responded to and for the problem to be fixed. 8 hour waits were far from uncommon.
After pointing out the HD worries several times (what else could it be at this stage?) 2 weeks later the girl 'looking after the problem' finally agrees with us and agrees to replace the HD. I drag off any data I need (ie since the last backup) in a brief period of uptime and give her the go ahead. The server goes down again and over 48 hours later they tell me a new HD has been installed.
BEFORE the server went down for the final time we made it very clear that we simply cannot wait any longer and had no choice but to cancel our account. This was ignored and the HD changed anyway. We also made it clear that the huge problems caused should mean that there was no way we should require a month's notice to leave them. The downtime, huge delays in responding to priority tickets and inability of tech staff to recognise a simple HD failure means we need to go elsewhere. The downtime has cost us a LOT of money and several very good google results still have not recovered so the cost to us continues in a big way.
Despite the 2 weeks of more or less continual downtime causing us to have no choice but to switch hosts they now have the audacity to send debt collectors after us for not giving 1 months notice. On cancelling the account my reasons were made very, very clear and that given the situation I would not expect to need a months notice and certainly not to be charged.
So my advice...look elsewhere. There are some very professional companies about with competent tech staff and who give a damn about even their lower end customers.
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Nov 21, 2008
I've been with wholesale internet services for a few months now and I must say working with Aaron (when available) has been a pleasure. However, working with anybody else on the team...Billing Departement I'm looking at you has been a COMPLETE Nightmare.
I orderded an extra IP Subnet range only to take it days (more than three) and a few tickets later to order. Their Billing/Sales department takes days to answer.
I then cancelled my services and was confirmed cancellation only to find out today that I've been billed and my credit card has been charged.
Not impressed with this incompetent operation. Aaron you do a great job but your team is nothing like you! I have yet to receive an e-mail back from sales about refunding me the money for the current billing statements.
I'm creating yet another ticket now in hopes that somebody there responds.
The server was fine as was the network, never had any issues, but the lack of support for billing was not.
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Aug 28, 2008
I decided to let everyone know about WholesaleInternet (wholesaleinternet.net) company and how people from this company treat clients.
2 days ago my server was taken offline. After contacting support team, I was told someone was hosting phishing page. However, they didn't send me any email. I asked them to send abuse report for me.
As soon as I got it, I told that I will remove bad site from server as soon as they will activate server. Since then they just ignore all my tickets. Server is down for 2 days, I have opened support ticket and all my requests are ignored. Phone support is total 'scam', because I always here same message 'We can not answer your call' for 2 days.
I understand this company is being managed by single person only, but I didn't believe it's so awful.
My server is still down, and I have no idea what to do next. They even don't allow me to remove bad site or move all sites from server to another provider.
And yes, I also PMed Aaron via this forum, but he just replied 'Abuse has the impression that you are intentionally using the server for illegal activities. I looked at the ticket and I can see why they think that especially when you tell them you will move the phishing site to another server.' Then he started ignoring all my messages too.
What abuse team!? Company of single person has abuse team? Sure... I can't believe that moving site to other server (after removing phishing content from it) is treated as illegal activity by Wholesale Internet.
Well, I lost hundreds of dollars already, and it looks I need to start everything from 0 (because company just ignores me), so the only thing I can do - tell everyone RUN AWAY from this awful provider as soon as you can. Because if someone will hack one of your customer accounts and upload phishing page, they will destroy your hosting without any questions asked.
I will post more detailed review about this company later, including screenshots from my support desk, etc. So if you think getting a server with them, think again!
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Jul 5, 2008
I purchased server from wholesaleinternet 2 months ago.It was a very huge server and it is running fine so far (Only 5 minutes network downtime so far in 2 months..)
Wholesaleinternet Network is great.
Network 10/10
Support 8/10 (A little bit slow but it's still far better then many other companies plus servers are unmanaged)
Service 10/10
Price 10/10
Aaron and his team provides great service!
I'd highly recommend Wholesaleinternet if you want to buy dedicated server.
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Nov 11, 2008
Well let me start by saying I've been a customer of WII for about a year now and have nothing against them. However, i've spent the last 4 weeks trying to contact them .... NO ONE is ever there and no response from anyone on here or via suppoort or phone ...
I put a credit card on there and moved the charge from the cc to myp aypal (had live subsccription) ...
it ended up charging both paypal AND my card and i've asked for 3 weeks to get the credit back ... i've basiccall been double charged and NO ONE answers
anyone know of a way to contact them
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Jul 23, 2007
Been having an annoyance lately, This kid has been ddosing a site on my server for 3 days. It has absolutely no effect on the server besides filling up iptables rules and annoying the crap out of me with ip ban emails. So not really a problem as far as knocking my server offline but the guy has been trying for 3 days and its annoying as heck.
So I got someone to track the net down for me its located on
208.110.**
port 5050 and port 5520.
I will post the full details if it is ok with mods
So I emailed their abuse the other day, no response, tried calling, nothing but answering machines. Nothing has been done.
This guy must really have some connections inside datacenters because I was seeing where he had botnets on fdc, they got reported and fdc sent him the abuse reports so he could attack them some more!
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Yes this really happened and fdc even protected the guys identity by editing his name and info out of the complaint post
Anyway, I get to talking to some other webmasters, he has had his botnet on wholesaleinternet a few months now. It has been reported repeatedly with no action taken, no one can even get ahold of anyone at the datacenter. So either they just ignore the same abuse report for months or they know exactly what he is doing and dont care. Either way they wont shut him down for nothing,
Ive sent reports to the registrar today, lets hope they are the ones to take action. And hopefully someone who works at wholesaleinternet will see this thread and finally be shamed into doing something. or if anyone knows anyone who works there please pass this on.
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Sep 17, 2007
My contract is up for one of my data centers and I just got hit with a new price increase per AMP! From $15/AMP to $23/AMP? Am I nuts or is this price VERY high? The data center is on long island. What is everyone else seeing?
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Dec 16, 2007
Please give me the difference. Colo in carrier hotel, we can choose our preferred network provider, but should we do that if we cannot have our own tech in datacenter? How about the supporting service from carrier hotel? Just general question, cause I dont address exactly which facility.
And the second would be more expensive? Saying the same number of rack, amount of bandwidth... Who is providing IP addresses then?
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Aug 20, 2009
I'm going to start offering a KVMoIP service for my customers and am trying to get ideas on the pricing. What do y'all think about it? I know most places that I know about charge a setup + hourly fee, well, I like to be just a little bit better, so let's see what y'all have to say.
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Feb 12, 2008
colo in Montreal even though prices appear to be much higher than pretty much anywhere else.
I just got offered 450$ for half cab ( 15A ) and 250$ per mbps, 3 mbps commit for 12 months.
Provider is pretty big and tier 2 network.
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May 2, 2008
I'm really just asking this out of interest and please pardon my ignorance. (I don't actually need a provider or anything now)
I've been looking around at pricing for colocation, and from what I've found, they start at around US$90/month.
From what I can tell, a colo provider basically offers you some rack space, a power port and of course, the internet line (maybe a few extra cables and such). What I don't get is that, looking at pricing for dedicated servers, they also seem to start at around US$90/month.
But with a dedicated server, aren't you paying for the rack space, the power, the internet _and_ an entire server? (BTW, I'm comparing similar features, that is, the colo provider is offering 1TB transfer per month, and so is the dedicated hosting provider). So why is colo costing around the same price as dedicated hosting? Is this usually the case, or is my comparison across multiple providers just faulty?
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Apr 10, 2008
I am in the UK looking for web hosting (possible a vps) with at least 6GB storage. I am confused why there is such a difference in price between companies offers.
E.g Kuala and Supanames are about £420 per year for a basic vps.
If i go to the EUKhost.com website they offer a vps for £240.
Is it because the first 2 companies offer a better service or are they just expensive, or are they set at a normal price and the EUKhost is cheap because it is not very good?
Any advice gratefully received.
Also if anyone has had any experience with any of these companies please share it.
Or if you know if a reasonably priced VPS - where you KNOW the service is good please tell me about it.
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May 20, 2008
Can anyone give me a rough estimate of what I should be expected to pay for the following bandwidth commitments from Verizon:
45Mbps (DS3)
100Mbps (FE)
155Mbps (OC3)
1Gbps (Gig-E)
This location would be a Verizon central office. Anyone know of a good Verizon sales representative or reseller?
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Oct 31, 2007
I am working with one of the new DCs that we deal with to negotiate some colo pricing and setups. They are not huge on colo, in fact they do very little of it. Hard to believe out of about 1200 servers in their DC, their colo section will not even fill 2 to 3 racks.
They do not even have a setup to price based on per Mbps, I'm sure they know about where they need to be if they dig into it, but they want me to work up a proposal based on what I need (they are working hard to work with me and keep our business).
Their network is fine, nothing outstanding but plenty strong for our needs.
They use mostly Time Warner and Level 3. I think I can even setup with them to provide my own rack, which I prefer to do since it would keep only our servers in the rack.
My question is, from those who have plenty experience on different levels at different Mbps pricing, what is average and reasonable considering those 2 carriers? If I provide a rack, they will provide power, UPS, etc. Aside from that, I need advice on what to expect on the pricing of the bandwidth.
I may also end up using my own Cisco switch in the rack, I haven't cleared that up yet.
If I start off @ 10 Mbps in the rack, and work up, about where should this be on BW pricing?
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May 3, 2007
Does Level3 charge the same price per rack at every one of their datacenters, or is it dependent on the location? For example, how much would a rack in the Houston datacenter cost compared to the Dallas datacenter? Please no sales people contact me I am just asking to do some research.
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Dec 13, 2007
What do you think the Standard Pricing for power should be in Toronto.
I heard $10 /amp how does that sound, Im just doing some research thanks for your comments.
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Nov 19, 2007
Is the SPLA pricing for Windows 2008 server out yet?
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Nov 5, 2009
Colocation like FDC Pricing in CA, Los Angles?
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Apr 3, 2008
Anyone have a ball park figure of what to expect $/MB? on a 100 or 200 megabit Commit From XO in the Tampa/FL market. Also other than Cogent Who else has aggressive pricing at the same commit level as above in the Tampa Market?
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Feb 16, 2007
I've been happily hosted in Equinix Ashburn for over a year now, so I haven't been looking into price changes over the past months. However, my colo provider suddenly decided to raise prices by 20% on me, saying that space and bandwidth has become scarce over the past year and their own cost went up by 75%. So they are asking me to lock the new hiked price by signing a new contract, otherwise I won't be able to get such offer from them or any other provider in that location.
Before signing anything, I'm trying to get a feel of the current prices. I see a lot of ads in here for same bw and space, but I'm sure there are variations in the level of service they provide, depending on the colo company, location, bw providers, package type, etc... So, just as crude estimate, can you please tell in general whether prices/costs has went up or down or stayed the same since last year, and by how much?
And if someone has experience with Equinix/Ashburn, what would be a reasonable price for a dedicated 100Mbps/4U colocation with a quality bandwidth provider?
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Dec 30, 2008
I just read that online ad revenue is expected to drop *dramatically* in 2009 as a result of budget cuts, much more careful spending as well as companies who still have significant budgets to spend expecting large discounts. As a company that is a "publisher" (we put other people's ads on our sites) this can potentially make a big a difference to us.
I'm wondering how bandwidth pricing is going change the coming year.
We're very much pushed to sign a contract (before 2008 ends) with a *true* tier-1 provider (not Cogent, hint hint) for a multiple gigabit, 12 month commit at under $5 a meg. That's very attractive to us but I can't help but wonder what's going to happen in 2009...
Best of luck to everyone in 2009, it's shaping up to be a challenging year to many.
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Jun 4, 2009
servers for a freehosting project and came across a good quote on some dual quad core amds for $320 a month. Is this about right? I don't want to give the exact location away as this was a custom quote but it's located in chicago. The network is Internap FCP optimized with internap, level3, and comcast.
Specs:
Quad Core AMD Opteron® 2376; 2.3 GHz,6M Cache,1Ghz HyperTransport
2 x 500GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive
RAID1
16GB (4x4GB), 800MHz, Dual Ranked
I might get a couple more for virtualization.
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Apr 21, 2008
Intel just hacked its CPU pricing, especially the quad core.
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Perhaps we will see this show up in cheaper and/or faster dedicated servers. I guess I better wait another week or two before getting that new box!
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Oct 8, 2007
telling me about your offerings, or trying to convince me about out of area datacenters because of the risk of terrorism, cost, or alien invasion, I'm not seriously shopping around, just doing a bit of initial research.
With that disclaimer, what's a rough expectation of pricing for a NYC, carrier neutral datacenter for 1 cabinet with 60 amps of 110v? Preferrably somewhere that Internap is available.
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Oct 25, 2009
I've worked with quite a few clients, and seen many posts with WHT, related to understanding service provider / site selection and total cost of ownership analysis. Are you familiar with the power-based TCO model?
We've produced some upcoming events to help...I hope you will come out for these seminars and cocktail networking hour: ...
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May 26, 2008
if these were decent pricing for the following dedicated servers:
DUAL QUAD-CORE XEON
2x XEON 5345 (8x 2.33ghz)
2GB FB-DDR2 667 RAM
250GB HDD
THIS CONFIG - $350 / mo
DUAL DUAL-CORE OPTERON 285
2x OPTERON 285 (4x 2.66ghz)
2GB DDR 400 REG/ECC
250GB HDD
THIS CONFIG - $250 / mo
SINGLE QUAD CORE Q6600
1x Core 2 Quad (4x 2.40ghz)
2GB DDR2 1066 RAM
250GB HDD
THIS CONFIG - $200 / mo
They are all listed as 10mbit unmetered and they show the following for their providers:
Qwest, MCI/Verizon, Savvis and BTN
Does it seem about right? I'm new to hosting and just wanted to make sure that it is decent pricing.
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Mar 29, 2008
I've been out of the game for a while and now looking at colo prices each server is only allocated 0.5a on most plans.
I was looking at purchasing a 1u HP DL160 dual quad core system with at least dual sata raided drives
My question is what kind of amps would a system like this pull? and how much do data centers typically charge for that additional power if it needed over the .5
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