3rdrockhosting Holding Refund Payment Hostage
Sep 4, 2008
I signed up for 3rd Rock Hosting's smallest plan and pre-paid a year because it was inexpensive and after EpicVPS's server magically deleted everything I had no reason to use a bigger host as my data was gone and my most recent backup was too old to do me much good.
The account got set up immediately, however there were problems such as my bandwidth allocation and number of email accounts and such were half of what they were quoted to be on the webpage. Ok, got a ticket in and got that sorted out no problem.
Then, something happened to 3rd Rocks upstream host and the site was down for two days about two weeks into hosting. They've had this problem before and I knew about it and decided to chance it. Bad decision I guess.
A week ago or so I got an email telling me to change my DNS as they moved to a new server. What? New name servers? Ok. I use my own DNS but updated the A records to the new IP's. This is where the trouble began, once everything resolved I could access my panel but none of my pages load! It just loads a blank screen and even view source doesn't show any of my php pages. I logged into the account via FTP and sure enough my files/data are there.. just nothing loads.
Not having to want to deal with this headache I politely asked my account be canceled and the 30 day refund honored. I was greeted by Mark asking if I changed my nameservers and when I told him I had modified my nameservers to reflect the new IP's he offered me two free months.
I stated that with the trouble I've had in the last 30 days; going past the 30 day trial would give me no 'out' if more trouble occurred. Mark stated he'd give me a refund 'ASAP'. This was Sept 1st. There's been no refund and I've shot off two more questions in the support ticket without answers. My 30 day 'guarantee' ends in just a few more days so I'm trying to get this done before hand of course.
I'm -> <- this close to filing a paypal complaint and escalating it. Being incommunicado with me for 2 days while you scrounge up $20 bucks is baffling.
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Apr 22, 2008
I had two servers with wiresix, for the most part support was OK (not the best, but not really bad) and Ryan was responsive to AIM and emails. At one point I no longer needed my dedicated server with them as I had moved everything over to my Colo server. I submitted a ticket to cancel the server (i gave 45 days) and request confirmation from them which I never got. AS the time got closer for that server to go away I started getting longer and longer response times to IM and support. Because of this I felt the need to cancel my colo box and get it shipped to a DC by me as not to be left stranded by a host that didnt care.
I submitted another cancellation request (about 6 weeks in advanced) and again got no response. About this time the dedicated server was supposed to go offline. I got invoiced and charged for it so I opened another ticket asking for a refund for a server that had been canceled. No responses, on anything. Now it comes time for the colo box to be taken offline...
I requested it be taken offline and shipped out a little bit earlier then the actual date. I provided shipping information. I also noted they can use the payment that should have been refunded to cover the shipping costs. This was the first of April. I am borrowing a server from a coworker for my customer who is supposed to be on the colo server. No big deal right, borrow a server for a few days and then move the customer back to the new server...Right?
Wrong. As of this date Ryan still has all my servers online, in the rack and will not even respond to my tickets or AIM. I cant even get in touch with him (or the rest of wiresix) to allow a friend of mine to goto the datacenter and pick up the server. The refund? Who knows... At this point I am convinced Ryan is angered that I am leaving and is hold my colocated server and my payment hostage. I have no other explanation.
I have attached an image file (with some information whited out) with the tickets and the last response times intact. Please I urge everyone DO NOT USE WIRESIX. If you do, do not ever cancel or you will never see your hardware.
At this point, I do not think I have any other choice but to contact my lawyer or the Atlanta Police department for the theft of my hardware.
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Jul 26, 2008
Here is my review of 3rd Rock Hosting after almost 1 month of service.
My original host(a good friend of mine) was hosting a few websites of mine and then had a server outage for a week. So I started to look for a low cost hosting provider that could still offer me good support and service. I came across 3RH somehow, and decided I would give it a try that the prices were so low. I was a little skeptical at first, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to test them. Prior to buying I figured I would test the support, and started chatting with Mark who was very helpful in providing me with information regarding their services.
So I bought a cheap plan, I then continued to log in to my client panel and realized the design was horrible. So I recommended that he fix it to make it easier on the eyes, the next morning there was a fresh new design for the client panel and it looked great.
I then went to log into my cpanel and add a add-on domain and was having some trouble, he immediately solved my problem and also gave me a small upgrade for the trouble and problems I ran into. Very generous of him.
So it has been just about a month, and I plan on moving all of my sites over to his hosting. Possibly upgrading to a reseller account and possibly their VPS services when they become available. I have to say that his support has been a great quality for their ridiculously low prices. I can recommend them and suggest you check it out. I don't think you can go wrong.
I plan to give you another review after spending some more time with them. But I can highly recommend them at this point.
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Feb 11, 2008
I have recently been asked to work on some SEO issues for a car dealer. His site is hosted by a company that bundles the deal with templated designs that can only be superficially changed.
This comany does not allow the customer to generate new pages, no changes to scripting, no ability to change the names of images or even use the "alt" attribute...etc.
The result is that search engines do not see info that would gain the website owner in search results. I am going to suggest today that they dump their hosting but I doubt that they will do that. I can add text to the pages but I need to do so in a way that won't alter the product display. Guess I'll put the text at the bottom of the page! yipee!
The point here is that hosting companies that limit the customer in such a way that they MUST use the design and update services of that company are not honest. I urge anyone that is even thinking about web hosting to research the host completely. Avoid "bundled" deals that seem like money savers. Go with a hosting company that will allow full freedom and access to your files.
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May 1, 2009
For the time I had their services, I was very pleased. Every time I had a slight problem with my services, they were ontop of it. I'm proud to be a customer of Server Hostage, and if I still decided to keep my website, I'd continue to use them. My forum is/was MyBB and when I needed my modifications and themes installed, they handled it within minutes. This is definitely getting what you pay for. The other thing I loved about Server Hostage, was its uptime. My site was never down, and I think that's hard to come by. Thank you Server Hostage. My site is under ground wrestling . net with out the spaces.
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Dec 3, 2008
How can I determine the minimum specs for a server that will hold several VPS? Dividing the resources by the total number of VPS machines, is this any good? (Processor, Ram, ...etc)
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Oct 13, 2009
So heres the short story:
1) I had a VPS account at [url](now hosting.com) for 2+ years.
2) My credit card expired so they suspended/disabled my account because they couldn't charge it.
3) I decided that I wanted to find a new host.
4) I asked for my files.
5) They said no because the account is disabled because of non-payment for 40+ days and that I'd need to pay the balance and then reactivate my account at the new pricing structure (which is $30+ more per month).
Is this even legal? Seems like extortion to me, but then again I am not a lawyer.
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Jan 3, 2009
I signed up with La(m)nehost not a short while back, I now wanted to make use of the guarantee since i'm not happy with there service.
I issued a ticket the 27th december 2008, requesting my money back since I wasn't happy with there services and they offer a 60back not-happy-money-back guarantee.
Till this very day it seems as Lanehost is REFUSING to respond to the ticket! I asked about the issue on the chat and just got a lame answer "you should log a ticket"...
What can I do against this? I paid around 150dollar for a year (stupid enough).
I was about to start my own hosting company, and this just sets me back alot.
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Feb 23, 2009
if there is anything I can do to make ImHosted answer my emails. I signed up like two months ago. Asked a support question got no real answer. Just circles I guess they don't know much about hosting or just like talking in circles. So I canceled in about 3 or 4 hours. Then after a week of sending many emails they finally refunded after I started a paypal dispute. I forgot to cancel the subscription in paypal so the next month I was charged the 30 bucks. Now they answered first email and said they would take care of it.
Now two weeks has gone by they don't respond to any emails and the chat says that its billing and I have to contact them only by email. So now I guess I'll have to wait for paypal to try to get my money back. Its sad I don't have an account with them but they won't give back my money. I would watch using there service. There servers are deathly slow. Nothing works like it should. They have support chat but really all they do is have you submit a ticket.
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Apr 10, 2009
I would like to know if i close account, has there any charge fee?
why not ask him directly? because they don't have reply me almost 30 hours.
also moneyback has time limited, i have no time waste)
(Odd, they reply first in support but billing....)
anyone has refund experienced?
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Feb 15, 2009
I don't want to pre-empt too much but has anyone here succesfully received a refund from EuroVPS?
I was a long time lurker here and see that they seem to get good reviews so I signed up a VPS there. Now I'm not sure it was the right decision. I've asked for a refund and its all gone silence for 2 weeks despite repeated and polite emails as well as phone calls.
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Nov 26, 2008
no needs to go or to stay with a poor company like liquidweb, all i can say about liquidweb is: "They love money more, more and more then a customer"
They stop to offer a money back guarantee. why? a man from liquidweb may tell us.
any way, i cancelled my vps, they took my money, hope you enjoy (LIQUIDWEB)
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Jan 22, 2009
I am planning to build my own site, but the problem is that I still don't have a domain and a hosting site..
I wanted to buy one but they all requested for a credit card number.. I'm still a student now and unfortunately I have no credit card..
Does anyone know any other way of paying those hosting sites and registering a domain w/o using credit card or something..
Or maybe since i'm still new, should I go for free hosting then? but my site uses MySql for database, is there a free hosting site that lets you use a database?
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Jul 21, 2008
i can write a long story about this guys that i actually don't know how they can start selling webhosting ,i think there should be a requirement of brain.
i m not telling much but its about 6 days our server is turned off and our website is down ,still no answer from them
[url]
its better for them to sell watermelon rather than webhosting and dedicated servers (IMO)
because they don't know how its heavy for a big website to be down
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Sep 4, 2007
our site want use Payment Portal for pay reasons.
can anyone list the most used Payment Portal?
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Jun 2, 2008
I've sent in for my refund over 7 days ago and still nothing. I've also got a ticket here which hasn't been replied to within 72hours. Pc-Core just give me my refund all I want is my money. I'm sorry you might be busy or something but just give me my money.
I've been waiting forever you should just give me my money!
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Dec 12, 2008
I purchased a dedicated server from Iweb back in October, I was paying 134.00 a month, no setup, etc.. After 3 weeks, I decide that a dedicated server is not what I need, and cancel. I attempt to cancel, and basically have to deal with my account manager only, as no one on Live Chat, etc.. can help me for whatever reason. Iweb has a 30 day money back guarantee, I have been waiting nearly 4 weeks for a refund. During this time, I have been getting overdue notices as well as today getting an invoice that I had a "Successful Payment" to Iweb for 134.00$ (the cost of my monthly service.)
I have been in constant contact with my Iweb manager, who is "very disappointed" in the accounting department and will process the refund immediately. Now, he is going to "talk to his boss," to get things sped up.
Today, I log in to web chat to talk to him, and he is "busy," and will call me when the refund is complete.
All in all, the actual web service was good with Iweb, however, their business practices are the worst I have seen thus far. Everything is this round-about procedure which is painful to deal with.
My philosophy is, if I can pay YOU for your services immediately to get started, then YOU can pay ME just as quick. It wasnt like I could get my dedicated server started with a "I'll pay you as soon as accounting writes you check in a few weeks." Extend the same courtesy to me.
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Sep 13, 2007
Last week I asked my friend to pay gplhost.com for VPS server EUR25 through paypal. They said they require to authenticate me in order to set up my account. Since paypal account is not mine I was unable to pass this authentication. I said, it's OK just refund me my money. They refused to give me my EUR25 back saying they will report me to authorities for "credit card fraud"!
I understand that my behaviour MAY seem suspicious but isn't it my right to refuse give my personal information to anyone? And isn't it my right to receive refund if I don't want to disclose it?
Shall I advise my friend to initiate dispute with paypal about that? I won't give up until I get my money back.
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Feb 13, 2009
What's happen with dreamhost payment methods?
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Aug 4, 2008
Do you advice me to select paying annually with softlayer?
Or it’s a bad idea?
I will be using the server for web hosting.
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Sep 26, 2008
Somebody know a good hoster with server dedicaced accept paymane via paypal ?
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Jun 2, 2008
I signed up with them for the 10mbps offer a 199 dollar server. The invoice was due on 30 and I thought they charged thru paypal subscription service.
On 2nd, after three days, they suspended the server.
Now my problem is taht they neversent a single email that an invoiceis due. I always get invoice email and I pay. Can't remember everything ... So Limestone guy here's how how this thing works
1. You send an invoice due email.
2. Then you send a warning that the server will be discontinued in 24 hours.
3. Then you suspend the server.
This is how planet does, this how softlayer does it and this is everyone does, nothing special in this.
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Oct 28, 2008
Very quick question please post if neither of the above. If you were to order hosting online which would you use: paypal or google checkout?
Any others please post below?
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Oct 2, 2009
vaserv does not reply my emails now that Rus has kindly provided me a refund ( after my node has been wiped and before that my backup took almost 14 days to get made and after that the catastrophe took place)
Ive sent 3 emails asking for this ( maybe 4) and no one replies back..
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Jul 30, 2008
I purchased some services from hostfresh.com but after waiting 3 days for my hosting to be set up (just basic web host space) i decided to switch to wrzhost.com where i was ready to go within 10 min of buying the services. I sent a support ticked to hostfresh(before i asked for the refund) and a lady told me to contact sales , when i told her i was getting no reply she again told me to contact sales so i bought else where. I emailed sales and billing 2 times each and sent 2 support tickets to them over a week and a half but have gotten no reply at all and when i sent a ticket to the lady that was actually replying , she now wont reply to my tickets also.
Anyone else have a problem with them and how did you get your refund?
Paypal was used to pay
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Sep 3, 2008
I initiated a account cancellation on around 31st July through sending an email. In response I was advised to open a ticket by logging into the Control Panel I did it as requested. Till now account is not canceled and day before yesterday I got charged for another month. Actually thats the time I came to know that its still not canceled. Since then I am contacting FH HelpDesk and I am just getting the same reply "I have put a note to my manager" It's happening for two days now. Yesterday I was told my request will be closed by late evening and I will be given the refund...but no action.
Now I contacted them again, got the same reply "I have put a another note to my manager"
I know probably I am whining out my fustration but waiting for a month and then manager is "unable" to take a look at note by the support...not sure whats happening
To the full disclosure, I had signed up multiple times with FH (may be 6-8 times) in a year or two period and had canclled the account on differnet occasions (due to my busy schedules I am unable to maintain the site) and I have always got a fantastic service to say the least...but this time...
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Nov 26, 2008
I would like to share my 8 day experience with Steadfast.net.. while it end up with me with a refund, I still highly recommend Steadfast.net as the refund was through no fault of theirs
I asked Steadfast.net several pre-sales question and they responded very quickly despite I was just window shopping. Satisfied with the information I received, I signed up for a Basic Plan with them on the 19th of Nov.
Turn of events:
1. I set up Prestashop shopping cart on Steadfast.net, everything worked
2. Turned on Friendly URL in Prestashop, not working
3. Sent a ticket to ask if URL Rewrites were enabled, answer was yes
4. Installed a script to test URL Rewrite on/off, confirmed it was on
5. Troubleshooted myself, spent hours, reading Prestashop forum
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Nov 12, 2008
I'm searching a good hoster who accept paiment via moneybooker!
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Sep 23, 2008
I 'just ordered a dedi server; they rung me to confirm the order and told me my server would be ready in few hours, but later asked me send copies of my debit card and passport which I refused to do as i never did this before, especially, here, in the UK
Is this common in th US?
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Nov 17, 2008
if I buy a reseller account off xyz.com, how does that work? I understand I have to buy a vps or dedicated, but how do I collect payment?
and is it possible to open a reseller account without having your own "front", I.E. when customers sign up they would be doing it through xyz.com (and not my own hosting company/template) but the payment would still go to me.
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Jul 10, 2007
He would like that you they spoke to me of some datacenter that dedicated server rents or vps and that has accepted payment for transference of netbank. It happens that I inhabit in the Australia and the unico skill to pay is this.
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