Vectoral Servers Cancellation
Dec 31, 2008
a bit over a month ago i ordered a dedicated server from vectoral servers and it said they are usually online within 24 hours but to give them up to 72 hours. so i waited and after 4 days i ordered another server from another company which came online in 12 hours. so i emailed vectoral asking them to cancel the order and refund my money.
i got no response.
6 days after ordering the server i received an email from vectoral with details of the server. i then sent them another email saying please dont bill me again, i have no use for the server now and just cancel it.
again i got no reply and now i have seen they have just charged my card again. so now im being forced to do a chargeback, complaint to visa and the merchant processor and try to get them blacklisted off my card or i might even need to order a new credit card.
be very careful this company chooses not to respond because of their horrible customer service they seem to be very desperate for money even to the point of outright credit card fraud.
i will update this with the results of my chargeback, hopefully it will tip the limit on their merchant account and they will lose it.
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Nov 24, 2008
anyone works with this company? i asked a really simple question but they just closed ticket and i replied everytime. here is the question :
i would like to learn something about your TOS.divxplanet.com=ed2links+subtitles,outlaw.lv=torrent,sharebus.com=rip movies,games,software etc. those sites are not legal sites this is mean if i rent a server i will able to make website such as a warez website? thank you...
all those websites on their servers.
did i ask something wrong or what?
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Mar 29, 2008
This is my second go around with a dedicated server provider. My first was with jmhservices (reseller for somebody-would love to know who). At JMH I had decent speeds via different protocols (ftp) etc. I had been told that vectoral was one of the best, so I gave them a shot. I know their machines are on 100 mb shared connection, but the speeds are ridiculously slow. My only conclusion is that they have thir connections way overloaded. My advice to anyone considering vectoral is this: LOOK ELSEWHERE!
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Mar 31, 2008
I ordered a server from them on friday at around midday. The confirmation e-mail stated that I would recieve a call to confirm the order. This never happend.
I tried phoning them...kept getting cut off. I tried live chat on their site...never any operators available.
I opened a support ticket to find out what was going on. They replied stating that server would be ready by monday morning at the latest, and I would recieve a call from the activation team once it was ready.
This call....never came.
I phoned them earlier today, finally got through to someone who told me that the server was ready, and I was just waiting for a call from their activation team which I would recieve within 4 hours. It has now been over 5 hours, and I have heard nothing at all.
I thought I would try their live chat again to find out what was going on, but that keeps going on and offline every 5 minutes, or so it would seem.
I'm now going to give them a further 24 hours to contact me, after which time, if I haven't heard from them, I will be reporting the matter to trading standards.
If anyone from Vectoral servers see's this, can you please let me know what is going on.
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Apr 22, 2008
I was making a kernel update today.And i made a mistake and server is offline now. I created a ticket at 1 pm to vectoral.
I also scheduled kvm to earliest time, same day at 8 pm.
And i create a ticket them asking if they have a chance to schedule an earlier kvm for me. 12 hours passed, no answer.
I know about usually it takes 24 hours to reply tickets but i don't want any help from my hosting company. I just want them to put kvm to my server.
And about schedule, it says i scheduled kvm for 22 April at 8 pm. It is now 23 April 12:40 am at England time. And that request is still pending.
Most of the time, even there is no officially time table for support, vectoral's support doesn't answer threads before 12 pm.
I am wondering what kind of support team they have, i guess they are checking tickets every 2 days.
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Dec 20, 2008
I've used them before and haven't had issues, but recently purchased a $30 server. I paid through paypal and 3 days later still hadn't heard from them. I e-mailed support and billing several times with no response. On the 4th day I put a claim in on paypal. Vectoral responded within 50mins:
* 12/19/2008 11:38 PST - Buyer: I still have not received my server and I've contacted you numerous times about my server and you've failed to respond. If someone e-mails your customer support you respond back. I will take my money elsewhere.
* 12/19/2008 12:29 PST - Seller: The payment is for a service, a dedicated server lease which is also an intangible item and not covered under PP policies, the user was provided with the server but then requested a refund, our TOS states no refunds are possible. This transaction is not covered under the PP buyer protection policy as its a server lease/service/intangible item. Please close case according with the PP policy. Thank you - kind regards, Vectoral Servers - Evrim SAYINKUL
* 12/19/2008 12:29 PST - PayPal: Seller escalated this dispute to a Claim.
" the user was provided with the server but then requested a refund" that line makes me the angriest. They never provided me with my server and haven't responded to ONE support ticket. On top of that they deleted my vectoral login info completely off their site, my e-mail cannot be found.
Their number on [url]is disconnected; also, directory services cannot find them either.
I could careless about $30, but it's ridiculous they won't answer one e-mail, then respond to paypal with details about their TOS.
I'd be VERY careful if you plan on getting a new server through them. It almost feels like they've gone bust or something.
If you have a server through them and wanna cancel because you love me, I'll give the e-mail I used and you can tell them they lost your service because of this. Them losing just one client is worth it to me.
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Sep 12, 2007
Sales - quickly after I put a ticket if they had any servers in stock they made space for one server and I ordered it.
Support - do you need them? I submitted a ticket to reboot my server but you can do that through the control panel and configure the DNS from there as well etc
Network - the lovely part , fast to all european servers around I can do a full 12mb/s without a problem on my 100mbit server I havent tested the speed to the USA but only to one place but I got 150kb/s (this is just to one host). But I don't need this server for USA so no worries!
Billing - they set my account up in no time , paid with paypal didnt have to send no paperwork in but I am already verified so maybe thats why?
I have a VERY small server with them a 30GB HDD (lol so tiny) and a Celeron something server it runs good so far but after this month (2nd month already) I will be upgrading to a much higher server to the Santa package.
Well there is my quick review I only used them for a month but I can already tell good from bad :| on hosts since they got very good reviews before I signed up with them now upgrading to expand my business
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Nov 26, 2008
I ordered server and payed 48 hours ago by paypal. Why i do not have details for it?
In they website they wrote what they have 2 servers in stock!
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Nov 4, 2009
CANCEL & RECYCLE FOR STOCK IMMEDIATELY PER MIGRATION FOR SERVER
My server suddenly get canceled because of the migration. It was more than 24 hours since it happen. I did not get back my server and my data. Does any LT customer get the same problem ?
I try to leave a message on their phone and trouble ticket system, but I don't get and response so far.
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Apr 30, 2009
First of all excuse me for my bad english. My native language is spanish. All times on this thread are GMT -5.
On March, 19th, I ordered a VPS with WiredTree - one month using this promo. WT service is pretty good but unfortunately response times from their datacenter to my country (Peru) was terribly bad in sometimes. I open a support ticket to ask about this situation but WT technicians told me that there was no any problem at their side and it should be probably an issue with my ISP.
Since I never had an issue like this with my old provider and having in account that very low response times have been occurring only when I visit my site and not any other site, then I decided to move back to my old provider.
So, according to their TOS:
Quote:
Account Cancellation
Client must submit service cancellations by opening a ticket through our client portal at least 7 days but not more than 30 days before the end of the service's billing cycle. Cancellation requests are not accepted through phone, email, fax, or any other method besides through opening a ticket through our client portal. You must have all account information to cancel an account. Only the authorized account holder may cancel the account.
In the event of cancellation, customer will automatically be billed for any excess bandwidth usage during the then-current monthly billing cycle.
I open a billing ticket: (13 Apr 2009 15:07)
Quote:
Hello,
Please mark my account for cancellation. I'll not renew my VPS. You can cancel it when my current billing cycle expires (19th).
Thank you,
Jonathan
Well. I have done what their TOS says. Nothing more to discuss.
However at April, 28th, my card was charged for the amount of US$49.00 (April billing cycle). Why they charged my credit card if I already requested account cancellation? I dropped an email to billing asking about this issue.
What WT says? (28 Apr 2009 15:55)
Quote:
Hello,
It looks like the account cancellation was never followed up on since we requested a confirmation for the cancellation of the account in the last email. It also looks like you were trying to request the cancellation outside of the requirements of the Terms of Service. We can schedule the cancellation for the end of this billing cycle. Please, let me know if you have any questions about this.
Thanks,
Jacob
So I reply: (28 Apr 2009 16:15)
Quote:
Hello Jacob,
I'm very disappointed about the way how you want to manage this issue. It isn't as easy as you think: "We can schedule the cancellation for the end of this billing cycle". No! I want to get my money back to my card, it's my right.
What do you mean when you say "It also looks like you were trying to request the cancellation outside of the requirements of the Terms of Service"?
Thank you,
Jonathan
Then I got: (28 Apr 2009 17:03)
Quote:
Hello,
> I'm very disappointed about the way how you want to manage this issue. It isn't as easy as you think: "We can schedule the cancellation for the end of this billing cycle". No! I want to get my money back to my card, it's my right.
I will speak to my supervisor to see if there is anything that can be done about this. I will be able to get back to you about this tomorrow.
> What do you mean when you say "It also looks like you were trying to request the cancellation outside of the requirements of the Terms of Service"?
We require a 7 day notice of cancellation prior to the end of the billing cycle. The account renews on the 19th, so the last date of service is the 18th and the request would have needed to be made on the 12th, at the latest. As I mentioned above, I will speak with my supervisor about this and see if there is anything that can been done. Expect a reply to this tomorrow. If you have any questions in the meantime, please, let me know.
Thanks,
Jacob
And WT's final position: (29 Apr 2009 13:53)
Quote:
Hello Jonathan,
I'm sorry for the delay in response. I have spoken with my supervisor and he has reviewed this ticket. He told me if the cancellation had been confirmed, we could have proceeded even though the request was made a day late, but since there was no confirmation we cannot reverse the payment now because the server has been online for the past 10 days. We can proceed to cancel the server at the end of this billing cycle. Please, let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks,
Jacob
So I have been charged for a service that I requested to be cancelled. I haven't using their VPS anymore after my first month with them finished. Why are they charging me?
I feel that the 'trick' is in the confirmation request. WT's position is understandable at some point of view however they need to understand that in their TOS it doesn't says that people should reply with a confirmation to the cancellation request. In fact, what you can ask after a client had requested account cancellation could be ignored. Account cancellation request is sent when someone has decided to not continue being your client.
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Jul 8, 2008
After I canceled my server with these guys two weeks ago now they are saying they never received cancellation and keep sending me invoices. One of them is for like $300 for "non-payment penalty". Can you believe this guys? And I was a customer for like 2 years too. They won't get a cent more from me.
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May 16, 2007
After being extremely dissatisfied with Virpus VPS hosting I decided to cancel my account with them 2 days ago. I opened a billing ticket requesting cancellation of my account and got a reply asking why. I responded and I have not heard back from them since. There is no cancellation confirmation and I can still log on to my account.
I've tried calling during the past 2 days but I only get a voicemail. Yes, that's right... voicemail everytime I call for the past 2 days. I've had no choice but to contact my credit card company and inform them that I no longer authorize Virpus to place any charges to my account.
Has anyone else tried to cancel an account with Virpus and have the same thing happen?
If yes, what did you have to do to get the cancellation to go through?
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Jan 28, 2007
I want to close this /usr/local/apache/domlogs/ logs for all domain how can I do?
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May 30, 2007
After being a customer of Virpus networks for less than 3 months I decided to cancel my VPS.
I have posted several tickets to staff, support, management but I have no reply from them.
Virpus is trying to charge my credit card for a service I cancelled more than 10 days ago.
There are other post with the same problem in the past.
I hope that Virpus stop trying to charge my credit card for a service I cancelled in advance.
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Dec 5, 2005
I just signed up for GoDaddy's Economy Plan for one year...but I guess I should've read the reviews it's getting here first
If I end up not liking this, can I cancel my service with GoDaddy and not have to pay for the remaining 11 months?(I'd only have to eat about 4 bucks for the one month)...
Or is there a way I can change from one year down to one month without a charge?
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Apr 12, 2009
Virpus - what hppd no reply to cancellation ?
806581 - Ticket id for reference
My friend wanted to move from virpus as he was having some issues, he mentioned all his reasons in the ticket and asked for the refund amount which was already existent in the virpus account, which he had paid them much earlier.
There was no reply to his ticket even after 2 days ..
So, he asked me to send an pm to Ken, haven't got reply from Ken either.
Recently, the sales dpt, replies haven't been up to the mark at virpus , their tech support still sounds good though,
Never expected this longer delay virpus - Ken, its almost 4 days since the ticket has been created and submitted to you,
sorry for creating a ticket, but u have left no other choice, as I neither got reply from mr.Ken in the past 2 days nor there was a reply to the support ticket.
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Feb 6, 2009
I am wondering if anyone else has had problems with [url] with regards to closing there account? I was able to get the account canceled, quickly, but they are still billing me. Support tickets to there billing department go unanswered and conveniently get closed after 128 hours.
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Apr 30, 2009
Never ever go for gigenet.com if you want a dedicated server. Here is the story:
I needed a VPN access to their infrastructure and asked to their sales if this is possible with them, because i loved it with softlayer. They said yes. 1 week after i ordered a bargain basement server to see their service quality and so. After i got my server and instructions to login to server and their client portal, i realized that there was no VPN available for me. After a few days of talks with their sales and techs along with a cancelation request, they confirmed to make it available for me.
They opened up a vpn access and a put a nic card on the box. Everything was dealed and was going good. Then i recieved an email from gigenet sales Brandon Hale that they processed my cancelation request and pulled the server offline immidiately (at the begining of the month where i paid for full month) and they cant refund me my money.
Gigenet is an epic fail. Here is a list of reasons:
1) Sales and Techs have lots of communication problems.
2) Sales promise all the things but never make it happen after you order the things.
3) Their infrastructure is very unfriendly. You get like four different passwords for
each interface you get. one for support one for portal one for vpn, etc etc...
4) They cut off the connection immidiately when you place a cancelation. They dont even wait for the remaining days for the month.
my conclusion is, if you really in need of a quality service just go for softlayer.
This post is not a bump up post for Softlayer but SL is the win.
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Jun 5, 2008
I dont bash hosts often, because i realize some problems will come up that are out of the host's hands. Network downtime, hardware failure, etc.
Most ive been with, have been very understanding, and willing and ready to remedy the situation by compromise on both the customer, and hosts sides.
I decided to switch my forum to a VPS and decided to go with ZONE.net. They seemed reasonably priced, and ive seen some good reviews here on WHT.
So, this past Saturday evening, I signed up and get the first few payment confirmation emails.
Monday morning, I get an email from my current shared host, that I would not qualify for a refund for that month since it was past the 30 day money back guarantee. I had been with them for 3 months. I had 2 weeks to go so I said ok, it seemed fair.
I email zone.net on Monday to cancel the VPS since it hadn't even been provisioned yet.
Tuesday morning, I wake up to account info from zone.net
I shoot back in email asking why it hadn't been canceled since i would be staying with my host a little longer. I asked them to cancel, and issue a refund.
They quickly point me to their TOS and state they dont issue refunds for any reason. I would be inclined to agree, but certainly these are special circumstances. I asked to cancel my VPS BEFORE it was even created.
I shoot back an email saying that I would be willing to settle a refund, minus the costs of the control panel license, which is the only thing they are out anyway. I have not even logged in to the account. This was all Tuesday morning. I have not heard back from them yet. They are probably ignoring me.
I will not email them anymore, I will not even ask for the refund back anymore.
So, be warned. If you decide to get a VPS with zone.net, MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO HICCUPS, and BE SURE YOU WILL NOT CHANGE YOUR MIND AFTER HITTING THE SUBMIT BUTTON. Oh and expect 48hrs+ of setup time on something other hosts do in 3hrs or less.
If they need to hold on to a customer's money like this, they obviously need it more than me to keep their so called business afloat.
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Dec 4, 2008
Do you think that having a 30 day cancellation period for a server is a bit excessive? This seems like ploy so that they get an extra month out of you don't you think? Do you think we know whats going to happen, and plan a month ahead of time for it? Some of these providers have 30 day cancellation periods, which I think is absurd.
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Jan 31, 2008
I would just like to let everyone know about my experience that I have had at vibrantstreamnetworks.com
This person named Kody, claims that he has a Large business but it is really a small and corrupted business, that i believe is operated by 1 person (kody himself)
Anyways, I purchased ShoutCast hosting from him for one of my clients, and I received my second month's invoice, and it isnt even the second month yet. I asked him to cancel my service because my client did not want it anymore. This is the reply i got from him
"I will after the payment is made"
I followed up by saying the following
"I am not making a payment for this month, i already paid the first month...
i dont want a second month service..."
VibrantStream Replied...
"Thats not how it works.Once the invoice is issued, it must be paid. Your allowed to cancel 10 days within the billing date of the invocie. "
It says nothing about this in his TOS/AUP
It just states the following...
Late Payments:
If payment on your account is not received by the due date, VibrantStream Networks will suspend your account within 48 hours of the due date. In the event of an outstanding balance for 7 days, a late payment fee of $5.00 will be applied to your account. In the event that the full balance plus late fees is not settled within 10 days of the due date, your account will be terminated. Account reactivation after suspension may take up to 24 hours and VibrantStream Networks reserve the right to delay or refuse reactivation at their sole discretion. Late payment suspensions are treated on a customer level and not on a domain/package level. Account data backups will only be provided after payment has been settled in full, including any late fees payable. Once an account is terminated VibrantStream Networks will not be able to recover any data from your account.
Vibrant stream networks then told me that they were going to turn me into collections.
I just felt that everyone thinking about purchasing from VibrantStream Networks should read this and look into other options!
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Apr 20, 2008
How much Notice do I need to give nocster/burst before cancelling?
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Couldn't find mention of the minimum notice period on their site.
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Sep 3, 2008
I initiated a account cancellation on around 31st July through sending an email. In response I was advised to open a ticket by logging into the Control Panel I did it as requested. Till now account is not canceled and day before yesterday I got charged for another month. Actually thats the time I came to know that its still not canceled. Since then I am contacting FH HelpDesk and I am just getting the same reply "I have put a note to my manager" It's happening for two days now. Yesterday I was told my request will be closed by late evening and I will be given the refund...but no action.
Now I contacted them again, got the same reply "I have put a another note to my manager"
I know probably I am whining out my fustration but waiting for a month and then manager is "unable" to take a look at note by the support...not sure whats happening
To the full disclosure, I had signed up multiple times with FH (may be 6-8 times) in a year or two period and had canclled the account on differnet occasions (due to my busy schedules I am unable to maintain the site) and I have always got a fantastic service to say the least...but this time...
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Jun 9, 2008
moving my colocation (just a single 1U server) to another provider. Is it reasonable to expect to be able to pay the original provider a fee to ship the server to the new location for me instead of requiring me to fly to the DC to pick up the server and do it myself?
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Jan 20, 2007
I have a lot of questions here so if you can't answer them all I understand. even pointing me somewhere where I could get the answers would be appreciated; hardware sites focusing on server hardware, forums focusing on such, etc.
we plan to have three different types of servers:
- db server (self explanatory. mysql. for forums, mysql driven sites.)
- file server (lots of files around ~2-10MB, consistant 70mbps right now, but we want more room for upgrades. needs a LOT of storage room.)
- web server (lots of php files, but also static things like plain html, images, etc. also includes all misc services for the setup-- dns, etc.)
could I be given a rundown for which hardware each of the three should have? I don't need specifics, even just knowing that more ram is important here while cpu doesn't matter as much, or that the fastest disks available are a must, etc would all be valuable info for me. despite that, I certainly wouldn't mind specific hypothetical hardware configs.
for the database server I'm assuming the more ram the better. not entirely sure about the cpu? also not positive on disks...
for the fileserver, how much ram would be practical or useful? disk io will be an issue I'm because plenty of people will be pulling files at once so the disk needs to read from multiple places. scsi (and even raptors) are not an option as we need 750GB+ of space on a reasonable budget. more ram will take some load of of the disks, but how much is neccessary / reasonable?
for the web server I'm assuming cpu first, then ram, but it'll likely need less ram than the db server?
I'm more lost on the disks than anything. scsi on the fileserver is not an option under any circumstances due to $/GB. for the db & web server I'm willing to pay for scsi if the performance increase really does warrant the extra money, but I'd like to be convinced before shelling it out. if you have benchmarks geared at server hardware when it comes to disks I'd really appreciate it.
also, what's the best way to network these together when colocated? each one with a dual gigabit ethernet port and then the communications go to and from the router?
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May 24, 2008
We send mail to another servers but we cant recieve mails another servers. We can't recieve with webmail and outlook.
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Mar 28, 2008
I was wondering if it is possible to cluster 2 web servers and 2 mysql servers with only one server working as load balancer.
I am planning to use LVS (ldirectord and heartbeat).
Let's say I have 3 IPs allocated to the load balancing server.
111.222.111.222 (Main IP)
111.222.111.223 (Web Load Balancing IP)
111.222.111.224 (MySQL Load Balancing IP)
If a connection is made to .223 it would pass the request to one of the web nodes.
If a connection is made to .224 it would pass the request to one of the MySQL nodes.
Is it possible to do this?
If not, can I run, for example, nginx on 223 IP address to provide forward proxy? (Then it would not be able to HA but the main point is to load balance so)
Also, what would be the best way to keep the data same on both web servers? This is a web cluster for a very high traffic forum with a lot of uploads every hour so it has to do real time synchronization. I heard that DRDB is only one way and not two way so I'm not going to be able to use this.
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Oct 11, 2009
I am just colocating servers and managing them myself, and renting services off of them. In the future I would like to start offering dedicated servers as well. I am wondering if many companies do this, or if its more of a general practice to just setup as a reseller? The worst part that comes to mind is thinking of how to do billing for the bandwidth per month. With my setup I would only be offering flat bandwidth packages (like 2TB a month) but even so, I cant think of anyway to automate it so WHMCS knows if they went over, if so, how much, etc.
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Aug 15, 2008
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Aug 13, 2008
Is it possible or advisable?
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