moving my colocation (just a single 1U server) to another provider. Is it reasonable to expect to be able to pay the original provider a fee to ship the server to the new location for me instead of requiring me to fly to the DC to pick up the server and do it myself?
View 2 RepliesI would like to know as to what amount of expectations should one have when opting for a VPS.
i.e. what's the ideal kind of website that will work fine with a VPS ideal site in the sense that ... the bandwidth and resources (or other criteria) the site consumes.
What is a reasonable rate for ram upgrades?
I'm looking to upgrade the ram in my web server and was wondering what others have paid lately for the upgrade.
Going from 2 to 4GB.
The term Managed Services concerns me with the way it is tossed around in the industry and I am curious to see what other hosts refer to as managed services, how they implement them and also what the consumer expects to receive on a managed server.
In going over one websites description earlier today they had more than five pages devoted to managed services and in my opinion said nothing. In fact at one point they mentioned their backup power, which while I will agree with that it is very important, that is infrastructure and IMHO has nothing to do with backup services.
Anyway I am interested in your view and definition of what you expect to receive on a managed server.
I'm experienced with various flavors of Unix but haven't taken the VPS plunge yet. My main fear is that I'm going to end up spending a lot of time managing the server, especially security. I'm leaning heavily towards a hoster that's well regarded on this forum but was surprised when I learned the default managed VPS they deliver is fully open. It also sounded like it was mostly up to me to do the hardening. I've seen the really helpful "HOW TO: Secure and Optimize your VPS" article and I'm okay carrying out these steps initially but all of this makes me wonder:
1) Shouldn't a brand-new managed VPS come completely closed and leave it up to the user to open the few services they need?
2) How much security work should I expect a managed hoster to provide up front and on an ongoing basis?
3) How much security work should I expect to put in initially and ongoing to keep this site running smoothly and securely?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting this to be "fire and forget" but I don't want running this server to become my day job. And after all, with my current shared hosting package I don't have to do *anything* - other than the occasional outage, it just runs.
what would you guys say are some reasonable (not too cheap and not too expensive) shared hosting prices?
im looking for how much space/transfer for $10, $20, and $30 budgets...
This is my review of my initial setup with Pacific Rack.
After the issues with the fire at TP, I decided to pickup another server at a different data center as an additional server.
I ordered a Supermicro, which is a quad core processor. The price was well within the range, the extras were all within range as well, except cpanel, which was $35.00. I'd rather see that at $25.00, but overall that was fine. Total price as $266, right around what I expected to pay.
Setup took a few days, right at around what I expected.
When it was delivered, I asked why I couldn't log into WHM. They told me everything was fine. After some communication and about an hour and a half they said that they forgot to install cpanel... That wasn't a good start.
They failed to meet expectations because of the following:
1. RDNS was not setup at all. I shouldn't have to request it be setup. This is small, but if I didn't know to check/ask, it would be a major issue in the future.
2. The box always fails to reboot and requires manual intervention. Why can't they fix that? or even address the issue?
3. cPanel was not installed properly and when I asked for help, they told me that the box was unmanaged and I choose the configuration. If it didn't work right out of the box, the fault was my own for choosing that configuration.
Alex said, "You have received a standard Fedora 64 bit install, that we downloaded just for you. What you need must not be included in the standard install, or the cPanel install.
If you want us to manage your server, then you will have to subscribe to our server management service which is $29/month with a 6 month commitment. Otherwise you can just google for the command to install an RPM, as I don't know if off hand, but I know its really simple."
Just to comment, if it turned out to be as simple as installing an RPM, then I would have just killed myself due to the shame of it.
Turns out after working with cPanel support, it was an install error, cPanel was not installed correctly. (Don't know if that is PacificRack's fault or cPanel's, but I know it's NOT my fault and I would expect the data center to get my server up and running properly so I could manage it)
My expectation was that I would be delivered a box that worked properly and if it didn't, PacificRack would help me get it working so that I could use it. It appears that PacificRack's expectation was they just install the crap, it's up to me to make it work. If the install is bad, I can just Google it.
I'm fine with managing a server, I have four years experience running serveral servers, but I am not able to debug install issues where the box NEVER worked properly in the first place.
So, in this area, they fail to meet expectations.
I also found their technical staff to be arrogant and unfriendly, though I'm personally arrogant and unfriendly, but I always am very nice to support people, no need to cut my own throat.
Overall, I'd say that my experience doesn't seem to be typical, but the fact that they were unwilling to resolve the issues really bothers me. I detest companies who hide behind "unmanaged" as a shield against providing the services that they should be providing as a data center. I also refuse to pay a $29.00 a monthly fee to get a managed server (basically a $180.00 commitment) to get them to deliver a working server, when that should be a "Free" service provided when I purchase.
The DNS servers are pacficrack work well and the connections are fast and reliable.
The server still is not working up to expectations and their support people seem to be unwilling to get it to meet expectations with out going "managed". Now, honestly, $180 would be far cheaper than any other options, but its the principle of it.
Overall, I'd rate pacificrack about average. The server is a good server and at a reasonable price. The support people where knowledgeable. The turn around on tickets was very good, no ticket sat for more than a few hours. It really seems like pacificrack is a very small operation. I think that is a big plus.
At this point, I'm not sure if I should just move on or continue to try and get this server to work properly. I'll make a decision in a week when the server is close to renewal.
good colo provider..
I dont want to pay the earth though!
I had three VMs with Fsck VPS, dating back to before they got hacked in June. I've been paying the bill since then, I imagined as a kind of insurance, so that I had the VMs handy if I needed to use them in a big hurry. Last week, I tried to log in, and found that my three VMs didn't exist, anymore. As far as I can tell, the VMs haven't existed since the June break-in.
SETUP / PROVISIONING
My first reaction was "They've been billing me for three months, and providing nothing?!??!" I'll be honest, I was pretty tweaked, but after I'd calmed down I decided to see how they handled the situation. So I submitted a ticket asking for an explanation: How long had the machines been down for, and what would it take to get them back up and running?
It took about a day, but we eventually established that VAServ could build three new OpenVZ VMs, and that they would give me three months' credit for those three machines. Since I actually do need the VMs, and I didn't really want to fight about the billing, I decided to go for it. It took another day, but I did get three new machines up and running.
Unfortunately, I do have some complaints about the process, specifically:
- VAServ's technical support is very inconsistent, and different techs seem to have vastly different levels of communications skill and professionality.
- Many of the techs don't seem to bother reading your ticket, beyond the subject. They tend to only be capable of answering the first question in each ticket/email, and they ignore anything else you've asked.
- After the FSCKVPS/VAServ buyout, following the break-in, the HyperVM control panel was disabled. If you need a reboot, or a root password reset, or anything that you can't accomplish yourself by SSHing into the VM, you have to open a ticket. (Seems like a chancy proposition, now, to me.)
REBOOT-AND-PRAY
Today, I started seeing memory allocation errors in running programs. The machine mostly worked, but certain operations (shell scripts, in particular) would error out. I opened a ticket asking for some guidance, and within less than 10 minutes, the VM started rebooting. I got an update about the ticket a few minutes later, and was told that the VM had been reconfigured (increased memory allocation limit) and rebooted.
I was pretty mad about the no-notice reboot. I'd been in the middle of editing a bunch of configuration files, and I lost an hour of work. It just seems so unprofessional and inconsiderate for VAServ's technician to bounce the VM without confirming it with me, first.
I did get an explanation/apology from the tech who rebooted the machine. I asked him to have his supervisor contact me, which took a few hours, but I did hear back. The supervisor wrote:
"...we reboot the vps if we found any VPS out of memory. Normally most of the service stop working or access got killed when VPS is out of memory..."
To me, it sounds like the reboot is a standard procedure for a common problem. Given that kind of environment, it's only natural that the tech's first impulse would be to reboot, given a ticket about memory errors.
At the same time, it's also indicative of a bottom-of-the-barrel service, isn't it?
- Memory problems seem to be common--is that because they're over-subscribed? Does your 512MB allocation mean anything, or is it just talk?
- The staff can't / won't bother to read through a ticket and give it some consideration.
- The staff has an itchy reboot finger. Their first impulse is to power-cycle, rather than to try to understand and fix the issue directly.
FOR THE FUTURE
I do intend to continue using VAServ / FSCKVPS, at least for now. They're really cheap, about $10/month for a 512MB VM, and I can mostly get done with what I need to do. But this is a qualified opinion. I am solely using these VMs for simple R&D projects: Quasi-professional work, stuff that nobody is currently paying me to do.
Given my experiences so far, I would never trust these guys with a real, money-making business project. VAServ / FSCKVPS is suitable for toying around with, or if you're flat broke, but I wouldn't bet my job on them if I could possibly help it.
I'm setting a calendar reminder for myself, right now, to check back in another month or so with an update to this post. Assuming I'm still chugging along with these VMs, I'm going to make a point of posting my impressions on a regular basis.
i have a server for hosting wibsites, with 1000 mbp connection speed, but with 2000 gb limited bandwidth.
i need more bandwidth , so i have 2 options: 1000 gb cost 100$
or unlimited bandwidth with 10mbp connection speed.
is 10mbp enough for this server ( it contains about 200 website )?
We are upgrading the power in our data center and moving to an APC 5000VA UPS. It uses an L6-30P 220v plug.
I have asked for a quote from our data center and they have said it will be $0 install but $400/month.
Is that reasonable?
The only reason I ask is because they quoted me an L5-30P which is 30amps over 120v for only $225/month.
While dedicated server providers are quick to promote that they support the server hardware how proactive do you expect them to be in terms of identifying hardware problems?
When hardware goes bad a customer might see performance problems and report it, or perhaps notice hardware errors in the logs.
Or is it the host's job to be monitoring hardware components status? Would you consider such monitoring to be part of the basic service or an optional management extra?
I'm interested in your expectations with a typical dedicated server.
CANCEL & RECYCLE FOR STOCK IMMEDIATELY PER MIGRATION FOR SERVER
My server suddenly get canceled because of the migration. It was more than 24 hours since it happen. I did not get back my server and my data. Does any LT customer get the same problem ?
I try to leave a message on their phone and trouble ticket system, but I don't get and response so far.
First of all excuse me for my bad english. My native language is spanish. All times on this thread are GMT -5.
On March, 19th, I ordered a VPS with WiredTree - one month using this promo. WT service is pretty good but unfortunately response times from their datacenter to my country (Peru) was terribly bad in sometimes. I open a support ticket to ask about this situation but WT technicians told me that there was no any problem at their side and it should be probably an issue with my ISP.
Since I never had an issue like this with my old provider and having in account that very low response times have been occurring only when I visit my site and not any other site, then I decided to move back to my old provider.
So, according to their TOS:
Quote:
Account Cancellation
Client must submit service cancellations by opening a ticket through our client portal at least 7 days but not more than 30 days before the end of the service's billing cycle. Cancellation requests are not accepted through phone, email, fax, or any other method besides through opening a ticket through our client portal. You must have all account information to cancel an account. Only the authorized account holder may cancel the account.
In the event of cancellation, customer will automatically be billed for any excess bandwidth usage during the then-current monthly billing cycle.
I open a billing ticket: (13 Apr 2009 15:07)
Quote:
Hello,
Please mark my account for cancellation. I'll not renew my VPS. You can cancel it when my current billing cycle expires (19th).
Thank you,
Jonathan
Well. I have done what their TOS says. Nothing more to discuss.
However at April, 28th, my card was charged for the amount of US$49.00 (April billing cycle). Why they charged my credit card if I already requested account cancellation? I dropped an email to billing asking about this issue.
What WT says? (28 Apr 2009 15:55)
Quote:
Hello,
It looks like the account cancellation was never followed up on since we requested a confirmation for the cancellation of the account in the last email. It also looks like you were trying to request the cancellation outside of the requirements of the Terms of Service. We can schedule the cancellation for the end of this billing cycle. Please, let me know if you have any questions about this.
Thanks,
Jacob
So I reply: (28 Apr 2009 16:15)
Quote:
Hello Jacob,
I'm very disappointed about the way how you want to manage this issue. It isn't as easy as you think: "We can schedule the cancellation for the end of this billing cycle". No! I want to get my money back to my card, it's my right.
What do you mean when you say "It also looks like you were trying to request the cancellation outside of the requirements of the Terms of Service"?
Thank you,
Jonathan
Then I got: (28 Apr 2009 17:03)
Quote:
Hello,
> I'm very disappointed about the way how you want to manage this issue. It isn't as easy as you think: "We can schedule the cancellation for the end of this billing cycle". No! I want to get my money back to my card, it's my right.
I will speak to my supervisor to see if there is anything that can be done about this. I will be able to get back to you about this tomorrow.
> What do you mean when you say "It also looks like you were trying to request the cancellation outside of the requirements of the Terms of Service"?
We require a 7 day notice of cancellation prior to the end of the billing cycle. The account renews on the 19th, so the last date of service is the 18th and the request would have needed to be made on the 12th, at the latest. As I mentioned above, I will speak with my supervisor about this and see if there is anything that can been done. Expect a reply to this tomorrow. If you have any questions in the meantime, please, let me know.
Thanks,
Jacob
And WT's final position: (29 Apr 2009 13:53)
Quote:
Hello Jonathan,
I'm sorry for the delay in response. I have spoken with my supervisor and he has reviewed this ticket. He told me if the cancellation had been confirmed, we could have proceeded even though the request was made a day late, but since there was no confirmation we cannot reverse the payment now because the server has been online for the past 10 days. We can proceed to cancel the server at the end of this billing cycle. Please, let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks,
Jacob
So I have been charged for a service that I requested to be cancelled. I haven't using their VPS anymore after my first month with them finished. Why are they charging me?
I feel that the 'trick' is in the confirmation request. WT's position is understandable at some point of view however they need to understand that in their TOS it doesn't says that people should reply with a confirmation to the cancellation request. In fact, what you can ask after a client had requested account cancellation could be ignored. Account cancellation request is sent when someone has decided to not continue being your client.
After I canceled my server with these guys two weeks ago now they are saying they never received cancellation and keep sending me invoices. One of them is for like $300 for "non-payment penalty". Can you believe this guys? And I was a customer for like 2 years too. They won't get a cent more from me.
View 3 Replies View RelatedAfter being extremely dissatisfied with Virpus VPS hosting I decided to cancel my account with them 2 days ago. I opened a billing ticket requesting cancellation of my account and got a reply asking why. I responded and I have not heard back from them since. There is no cancellation confirmation and I can still log on to my account.
I've tried calling during the past 2 days but I only get a voicemail. Yes, that's right... voicemail everytime I call for the past 2 days. I've had no choice but to contact my credit card company and inform them that I no longer authorize Virpus to place any charges to my account.
Has anyone else tried to cancel an account with Virpus and have the same thing happen?
If yes, what did you have to do to get the cancellation to go through?
I want to close this /usr/local/apache/domlogs/ logs for all domain how can I do?
After being a customer of Virpus networks for less than 3 months I decided to cancel my VPS.
I have posted several tickets to staff, support, management but I have no reply from them.
Virpus is trying to charge my credit card for a service I cancelled more than 10 days ago.
There are other post with the same problem in the past.
I hope that Virpus stop trying to charge my credit card for a service I cancelled in advance.
I just signed up for GoDaddy's Economy Plan for one year...but I guess I should've read the reviews it's getting here first
If I end up not liking this, can I cancel my service with GoDaddy and not have to pay for the remaining 11 months?(I'd only have to eat about 4 bucks for the one month)...
Or is there a way I can change from one year down to one month without a charge?
Virpus - what hppd no reply to cancellation ?
806581 - Ticket id for reference
My friend wanted to move from virpus as he was having some issues, he mentioned all his reasons in the ticket and asked for the refund amount which was already existent in the virpus account, which he had paid them much earlier.
There was no reply to his ticket even after 2 days ..
So, he asked me to send an pm to Ken, haven't got reply from Ken either.
Recently, the sales dpt, replies haven't been up to the mark at virpus , their tech support still sounds good though,
Never expected this longer delay virpus - Ken, its almost 4 days since the ticket has been created and submitted to you,
sorry for creating a ticket, but u have left no other choice, as I neither got reply from mr.Ken in the past 2 days nor there was a reply to the support ticket.
I am wondering if anyone else has had problems with [url] with regards to closing there account? I was able to get the account canceled, quickly, but they are still billing me. Support tickets to there billing department go unanswered and conveniently get closed after 128 hours.
View 5 Replies View RelatedNever ever go for gigenet.com if you want a dedicated server. Here is the story:
I needed a VPN access to their infrastructure and asked to their sales if this is possible with them, because i loved it with softlayer. They said yes. 1 week after i ordered a bargain basement server to see their service quality and so. After i got my server and instructions to login to server and their client portal, i realized that there was no VPN available for me. After a few days of talks with their sales and techs along with a cancelation request, they confirmed to make it available for me.
They opened up a vpn access and a put a nic card on the box. Everything was dealed and was going good. Then i recieved an email from gigenet sales Brandon Hale that they processed my cancelation request and pulled the server offline immidiately (at the begining of the month where i paid for full month) and they cant refund me my money.
Gigenet is an epic fail. Here is a list of reasons:
1) Sales and Techs have lots of communication problems.
2) Sales promise all the things but never make it happen after you order the things.
3) Their infrastructure is very unfriendly. You get like four different passwords for
each interface you get. one for support one for portal one for vpn, etc etc...
4) They cut off the connection immidiately when you place a cancelation. They dont even wait for the remaining days for the month.
my conclusion is, if you really in need of a quality service just go for softlayer.
This post is not a bump up post for Softlayer but SL is the win.
a bit over a month ago i ordered a dedicated server from vectoral servers and it said they are usually online within 24 hours but to give them up to 72 hours. so i waited and after 4 days i ordered another server from another company which came online in 12 hours. so i emailed vectoral asking them to cancel the order and refund my money.
i got no response.
6 days after ordering the server i received an email from vectoral with details of the server. i then sent them another email saying please dont bill me again, i have no use for the server now and just cancel it.
again i got no reply and now i have seen they have just charged my card again. so now im being forced to do a chargeback, complaint to visa and the merchant processor and try to get them blacklisted off my card or i might even need to order a new credit card.
be very careful this company chooses not to respond because of their horrible customer service they seem to be very desperate for money even to the point of outright credit card fraud.
i will update this with the results of my chargeback, hopefully it will tip the limit on their merchant account and they will lose it.
I dont bash hosts often, because i realize some problems will come up that are out of the host's hands. Network downtime, hardware failure, etc.
Most ive been with, have been very understanding, and willing and ready to remedy the situation by compromise on both the customer, and hosts sides.
I decided to switch my forum to a VPS and decided to go with ZONE.net. They seemed reasonably priced, and ive seen some good reviews here on WHT.
So, this past Saturday evening, I signed up and get the first few payment confirmation emails.
Monday morning, I get an email from my current shared host, that I would not qualify for a refund for that month since it was past the 30 day money back guarantee. I had been with them for 3 months. I had 2 weeks to go so I said ok, it seemed fair.
I email zone.net on Monday to cancel the VPS since it hadn't even been provisioned yet.
Tuesday morning, I wake up to account info from zone.net
I shoot back in email asking why it hadn't been canceled since i would be staying with my host a little longer. I asked them to cancel, and issue a refund.
They quickly point me to their TOS and state they dont issue refunds for any reason. I would be inclined to agree, but certainly these are special circumstances. I asked to cancel my VPS BEFORE it was even created.
I shoot back an email saying that I would be willing to settle a refund, minus the costs of the control panel license, which is the only thing they are out anyway. I have not even logged in to the account. This was all Tuesday morning. I have not heard back from them yet. They are probably ignoring me.
I will not email them anymore, I will not even ask for the refund back anymore.
So, be warned. If you decide to get a VPS with zone.net, MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO HICCUPS, and BE SURE YOU WILL NOT CHANGE YOUR MIND AFTER HITTING THE SUBMIT BUTTON. Oh and expect 48hrs+ of setup time on something other hosts do in 3hrs or less.
If they need to hold on to a customer's money like this, they obviously need it more than me to keep their so called business afloat.
Do you think that having a 30 day cancellation period for a server is a bit excessive? This seems like ploy so that they get an extra month out of you don't you think? Do you think we know whats going to happen, and plan a month ahead of time for it? Some of these providers have 30 day cancellation periods, which I think is absurd.
View 11 Replies View RelatedI would just like to let everyone know about my experience that I have had at vibrantstreamnetworks.com
This person named Kody, claims that he has a Large business but it is really a small and corrupted business, that i believe is operated by 1 person (kody himself)
Anyways, I purchased ShoutCast hosting from him for one of my clients, and I received my second month's invoice, and it isnt even the second month yet. I asked him to cancel my service because my client did not want it anymore. This is the reply i got from him
"I will after the payment is made"
I followed up by saying the following
"I am not making a payment for this month, i already paid the first month...
i dont want a second month service..."
VibrantStream Replied...
"Thats not how it works.Once the invoice is issued, it must be paid. Your allowed to cancel 10 days within the billing date of the invocie. "
It says nothing about this in his TOS/AUP
It just states the following...
Late Payments:
If payment on your account is not received by the due date, VibrantStream Networks will suspend your account within 48 hours of the due date. In the event of an outstanding balance for 7 days, a late payment fee of $5.00 will be applied to your account. In the event that the full balance plus late fees is not settled within 10 days of the due date, your account will be terminated. Account reactivation after suspension may take up to 24 hours and VibrantStream Networks reserve the right to delay or refuse reactivation at their sole discretion. Late payment suspensions are treated on a customer level and not on a domain/package level. Account data backups will only be provided after payment has been settled in full, including any late fees payable. Once an account is terminated VibrantStream Networks will not be able to recover any data from your account.
Vibrant stream networks then told me that they were going to turn me into collections.
I just felt that everyone thinking about purchasing from VibrantStream Networks should read this and look into other options!
I entered the domain name in wrong - domain.com instead of www .domain.com - and decided to not approve it when you get to the final step as rapidssl said to do.
So how long do i need to wait before namecheap will update the status so that I can start the process again ?
How much Notice do I need to give nocster/burst before cancelling?
Not ready to cancell just yet but probably will be at the end of next month. (Moving to co-lo and as i'm in the UK burstnet's datacenter would be a bit far to travel so Won't be using them for Co-lo)
Couldn't find mention of the minimum notice period on their site.
I initiated a account cancellation on around 31st July through sending an email. In response I was advised to open a ticket by logging into the Control Panel I did it as requested. Till now account is not canceled and day before yesterday I got charged for another month. Actually thats the time I came to know that its still not canceled. Since then I am contacting FH HelpDesk and I am just getting the same reply "I have put a note to my manager" It's happening for two days now. Yesterday I was told my request will be closed by late evening and I will be given the refund...but no action.
Now I contacted them again, got the same reply "I have put a another note to my manager"
I know probably I am whining out my fustration but waiting for a month and then manager is "unable" to take a look at note by the support...not sure whats happening
To the full disclosure, I had signed up multiple times with FH (may be 6-8 times) in a year or two period and had canclled the account on differnet occasions (due to my busy schedules I am unable to maintain the site) and I have always got a fantastic service to say the least...but this time...
I have a Server with Centos7 + Plesk 12 and in the service configuration say that the Bind service is not installed, from command line i have install named services and make a manual configuration the first domain, but when I return to the service page in plesk... the problem is the same, the Bind Service is not installed; then the problem is when i want create a new hosting i need to go to the ssh to make the DNS configuration...
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