Leaseweb Off My Server When Not Yet Finish Contract

Aug 18, 2008

My website: downarchive.com - it's wearez site and hosted leaseweb.

Yesterday. My server was downtime to today! We contact leaseweb and they said: "we delete my server" ... when my contract not yet finish.. (8/27/08 it's finish

My database - My source - script - website was delete!

I sundenly!

... Next. I trying contact leaseweb once more time but they didn't take phone !

What's are they doing? I didn't know!

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