Offering Hosting As Part Of A Web Design Contract
Dec 24, 2007
Are there any web designers/developers who offer hosting to their clients as part of their website creation package. I am toying with the idea of only creating websites for people who host with me. I currently have a colo server, but only use it for personal things. So I have no experience with the needs and demands of clients in regards to hosting. What are some of your experiences with hosting for clients? Is it worth it?
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May 20, 2008
I have about a year left on my contract with Lunarpages and would like to sell it (at a discount to what I paid for it). Where's the best place to post this kind of thing?
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Aug 13, 2009
Does anyone know any companies that offer both web design and hosting in one package? What I am thinking of would be managed shared hosting.
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Apr 1, 2009
Went to go through Precision Effect's site earlier and noticed they're offering "Cloud" hosting?
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Jun 9, 2008
I have been asked by a client to develop a solution that can offer subversion project hosting. Basically a user will signup for an account and be able to create different repositories and manage them and get RSS feeds for the commit actions n stuff...
Now i am thinking of using PHP for this but I am not sure how will I setup the server (webhost) .. should I recommend him to go with dedicated server? Since he wants to limit the space for each user how can that be done?
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Apr 9, 2008
We are co-located at a datacenter and host web sites, and corporate email systems, as well as host dedicated servers for customers.
We currently have two /25 internet facing subnets from our provider. We have a Watchguard X5500e 8 port gigabit firewall that supports routing as well as VLANs. We also currently own QTY4 2848 HP Gigabit switches.
We currently have each switch connected in a loop with 2 gigabit ports trunked using static LCAP. The switches are connected as follows:
A > B
B > C
C > D
D > A
Rapid STP is turned on. One thing is - is this the ideal trunking scheme?
The more important question is this. We would like to separate ips from each other using VLANing.
IE: we might have a client with 5 different IPs in one or more subnets and we would like to group them together.
We ideally do not want to break up the subnets into smaller ones as it makes it hard to reconfigure and it wastes ip addresses, as we do not have that many.
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Jan 28, 2008
How many companies have you come across that offer different dc location? Does it make their offer more attractive for their potential clients?
Marblehost.com offer you to choose between GB and USA location? Or am I misreading their post as it seems unbelievable...
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Mar 25, 2007
I'm in the process of forming a web development business and am currently interested in learning the various methods of offering 3rd party services and accounts. How to offer hosting is my current dilemma; I can of course refer the client to a host and receive a referral kick-back, but the idea of reselling hosting accounts is also appealing, though I have no knowledge currently as to how this works, and I'm basically just curious how other's manage this aspect of the business. I do not mind offering customer service on hosting accounts, so this is not an issue
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May 22, 2009
Not sure if there was similar thread earlier. But just want to find out hosts which offer shared hosting and have their own DCs. The ones I know are:
Pair
FutrueQuest
LiquidWeb
HE
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Mar 5, 2008
I am not very professional in hosting but i am using shared hosting from about an year.
i came here to know what is running behind my share hosting or any share hosting and also please tell me what is dedicated server requirement, i mean what hardware, software and connection needed to make a dedicated server?
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Jan 19, 2009
I know there are a bazillion email only services out there (constant contact), however, they all require a monthly contract, which I am not interested in, as I only send my newsletters every three months or so (to about 2500 people).
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Mar 3, 2008
Is it important to have the option to pay monthly or are you happy with term contracts, as long as the price and service standards are there?
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Jan 28, 2009
I have a situation with Full Control that may be of interest to professionals who are considering doing business with this hosting company. As VP of Operations and the head of technologies for a startup firm I chose Full Control Networks after some research to host several virtual machines for the company's clients. I filled out a contract with them and things proceeded well for some time. They are a bit pricey, but the service and performance were overall good, so I didn't mind paying a little extra out of our budget. The problem came after the company I was working for started to run into cash flow problems, and after having some paychecks delayed I decided to move on. A few months later I started to receive calls from my former company's clients saying that they were unable to contact the company and that they were worried about their sites and data hosted on the virtual machines at Full Control. I called Full Control as a courtesy to the former clients, whom I had maintained good relationships with, however I was informed that I was no longer on the 'authorized contact list' by request of my former employer and could no longer be given information about the accounts. I asked if I could at least be told if the account was current, and they finally told me that it was up to date. I told the former clients that they were probably ok for the moment, but that was the extent that I could be of assistance. About a month and a half later I receive a call from Full Control asking to be paid for past due balances, and was informed that all servers had been taken off-line. I told them that I was no longer associated with the company and as they were aware had been removed from the 'authorized contact list'. Their reply was that I had signed the contract and that if I did not pay it, the bill would go into collections, and I would be on the hook. After trying to contact my former employer to no avail, I re-contacted a couple of the former clients that had first contacted me with concerns. They said that they had recently been on their sites but could no longer access them, and what could we do to correct the situation. I asked them if they would be willing to pay for their share of the past due balance, and they both said they would. I called Full Control back and said that if they want to divide the bill into the separate machine accounts, that I could get them paid for those portions of the bill (about a third of outstanding) that the former clients are willing to pay for, that I may be able to bring the other former clients on-board and then they could persue my former employer for the remainder. They demanded payment in full, or it was going to collection. So...
A. It was a contract with a corporation and I was 'unauthorized' and taken off of the email list for billing by request of the corporate president, until suddenly there was an unpaid balance whereupon I was 're-instated' as a responsible party because my name was on the contract under the company name.
B. I have been trying to help all involved by getting them partially paid for the balance due and in the process provide them with on-going revenue from those customers for probably years to come. In addition I had already started a new account with Full Control via my own company, which would likely grow to a good number of virtual machines and always be paid on time. Currently an unlikely scenario.
C. Not only will they never collect a penny by going to collections, but there is a real possibility that all parties will have to pay legal expenses to hash it out. (I keep counsel on retainer, and the former clients are attorneys themselves.)
I am still hoping for reason to prevail, and will post the outcome when it is settled. Until then, If you are a technology officer for a company, and are not prepared to pay your company's bills after you have left the company; Do Not sign a contract with Full Control.
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Aug 18, 2008
My website: downarchive.com - it's wearez site and hosted leaseweb.
Yesterday. My server was downtime to today! We contact leaseweb and they said: "we delete my server" ... when my contract not yet finish.. (8/27/08 it's finish
My database - My source - script - website was delete!
I sundenly!
... Next. I trying contact leaseweb once more time but they didn't take phone !
What's are they doing? I didn't know!
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Jul 4, 2008
I might end up colocating at a datacenter which serves as a POP for cogent, however the setup fee is $1,000 for this (they already have their own fiber in their building).
Have you ever gotten the setup fee waived before or any tips on negotiating these kinds of things. I don't know if its upto the sales guy to make the call or not.
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May 28, 2009
I have a website that can be seen in a part of the world but not on the other. How can I troubleshoot this issue. Is there a web utility that can help me figure out what is the problem?
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Jul 8, 2008
Is security really that critical? If so, why are some of the largest software companies providing such a bad example for the rest of the industry? Why would someone want to target my website? Why is security often overlooked?
These are all common questions that arise on a daily basis within the online industry.
The rest of this article will provide some detailed answers, along with practical examples and true scenarios.
I've spoken with numerous hackers over the past short while. I can't count the number of times I've heard the line "Ignorant site owners deserve to be hacked". In my opinion, that's like claiming that cars without alarms deserve to be stolen, or homes without alarm systems deserve to be burglarized. It's not just wrong - it's illegal.
Security risks and vulnerabilities affect the entire online industry. When a single website is hacked, there are usually multiple other victims. This is most commonly seen with widely distributed software. A potential attacker has the ability to install the software on a test environment, locate the vulnerabilities, then attack random victims even before anyone else is aware of the potential exploits. Once a vulnerability is located, the attacker simply needs to search for other environments using the same software, and within minutes there are hundreds, often thousands of potential victims.
Typically, in the race to market, software providers are encouraged to release their products as soon as the applications are usable. Critical development procedures are often overlooked or intentionally bypassed. One such miss is an application vulnerability assessment. Although the product may be usable, the effects of a vulnerable application could be severe.
Sadly, nobody is "off limits" when it comes to hacking. Most hackers feel safe committing online crime, since the online industry has evolved much faster than the security industry. Many applications are not created with the intent to recognize hacking attempts. Some hackers view their actions as a competition - Who can attack the most valuable website? Who can exploit the most user databases? In many cases, these attacks are bragged about within the hacker's immediate network. The competitive nature of these hacking groups has become so severe, there have been reports of attacks between competing organizations.
You might ask, "If I use industry standards, won't my environment be secure?". The short answer: no, but it helps. Hackers are not restricted by industry standards. Most security companies only implement new standards once at least one victim is reported. This often gives hackers plenty of time to locate other vulnerable environments, and before long, the number of victims can increase rapidly. Hackers are some of the most innovative individuals within the online industry. The most logical way to combat them is to use similar methodology for security purposes.
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Oct 1, 2008
One of the most reliable & dependable webhosts around: Aussie Bob's Dotable is now a part of the UK2Group.
Read announcement:
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The new plans unfortunately resemble that of a typical overselling host.
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Jun 4, 2007
I am having trouble finding a good sysadmin for my needs. Has anyone else been in a similar situation? Does anyone have any advice on how to find somebody like this?
SITUATION:
I am having trouble finding a reliable RH sysadmin. I have a handful of clustered HA setups for customers (6+ servers & load-balancers) and a number of single-server dedicated hosting customers. I do a lot of the work myself. The additional sysadmin usually only has a small amount of actual worked hours per month, dependent on new installs. But, they need to be reliable, available, and familiar with the complexities of the setups.
From what I have seen, some sort of server management company wouldn't be able to be familiar with the setups well enough to not regularly make errors or modify setups correctly due to the amount of clients they have.
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Aug 7, 2008
Should/home be its own partition when using r1soft, or can it be part of/?
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Jun 16, 2008
I have a small dns cluster with 4 servers, the problem is that when i want to update a dns registry one of them doesnt sync, i have to try like 6 or 8 times to get that server to sync with all the others, and im concern because the one who gets trouble to sync is my secondary dns server
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Mar 3, 2009
Is bandwidth going to be my most expensive cost if I open up a video hosting site? Is there a inexpensive alternative? Is there an inexpensive web host with low cost bandwidth allocation?
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Apr 29, 2009
I have similar problem that explained [url]
The detail of my problem is below:
Some people sent spoofing mails from our mail users sent to our user from Postfix/local that is listed in maillog like below:
Apr 29 16:57:02 ns1 postfix/local[3075]: EC2153565E3: to=<user-mydomain.com@ns1.mydns.com>, orig_to=<user@mydomain.com>, relay=local, delay=486, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/bin/procmail-wrapper -o -a $DOMAIN -d $LOGNAME)
Bu i do not know how to prevent this people not to use my Postfix/local delivery part. How can i prevent this attack?
When i connect to my mail server to sent or receive my mail it look like
Apr 29 17:25:28 ns1 dovecot: pop3-login: Login: user=<user@mydomain.com>, method=PLAIN, rip=***.***.***.***, lip=***.***.***.***
....
Apr 29 17:25:55 ns1 dovecot: POP3(user@mydomain.com): Disconnected: Logged out top=0/0, retr=0/0, del=0/0, size=0....
But the attackers connect directly like below:
Apr 29 17:29:59 ns1 postfix/local[2456]: 3192E357FD9: to=<user-mydomain.com@ns1.mydns.com>, orig_to=<user@mydomain.com>, relay=local, delay=261, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/bin/procmail-wrapper -o -a $DOMAIN -d $LOGNAME)
....
Apr 29 17:29:59 ns1 postfix/qmgr[2218]: 3192E357FD9: removed
How can the spammer connect to Postfix/local part? My mail server not open relay. i test it from internet.
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May 6, 2009
A few people have asked me to give feedback on my experience with VolumeDrive so I decided I will be posting a 3 part review on them:
Part 1 - initial impressions
Part 2 - three month review
Part 3 - one year review (hopefully)
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When I first got in contact with VD, contact was slow: about an email a day. It was very annoying to say the least. However when VD realized that I was genuinely interested in purchasing a server, and not just a window shopper, contact was more frequent and acceptable.
After looking around and comparing, I ended up ordering the following server from VD for a whopping $105 per month:
Q6600
4 GB DDR2 800 RAM
500 GB HDD
10 Mbps dedicated unmetered
5 IP addresses
Plesk 30 domain
Full managed services
Well just at face value, I don't think anyone will argue with me when I say you cannot beat the price. Where else will you find that kind of server w/ full management for $105 a month?
In the ordering process there were a few forgivable annoyances:
1) VD does not have any sort of automated, order online system for their "good" deals. I had to order via email and manually pay from PayPal. I was, however, emailed an invoice confirming my purchase after I paid.
2) It took VD 2 hours to send me my order request after I said "I am ready to purchase". Now it was late at night, so they probably only had a skeleton staff on hand, so this is understandable; however this point is sort of related to the lack of an automated system point mentioned above.
So after I paid and all, I was told they were building me a new server and it would take 3 business days to arrive. I was bummed out upon hearing this but this was understandable and justifiable - if they don't have the parts on hand, they don't have the parts, no big deal. I did appreciate the fact that they were honest with me upfront instead of trying to con me into giving me a different server (like I have been hearing stories about with other hosts).
So I waited. I was told my server would be setup on Tuesday afternoon and it was. The actual time between order and setup was about 5 and a half days: 3 days for the parts to arrive + Saturday + Sunday + time to build the server.
On Tuesday I was informed that my server has a Q8200 instead of a Q6600. To me this was not a big deal so I didn't object but if you are going to order from VD and you want one specific CPU I would be very clear with them that you won't accept any alternative. What did make me chuckle, however, is the fact that I was told "I received a free upgrade" to Q8200. It made me chuckle because I don't consider it a "free upgrade" when I was offered a choice between the Q6600 and a Q8200 for the same price during the ordering process. However, as I already said, a Q6600 or Q8200 - it does not matter to me: both are very similar in performance anyway.
So since I got my server I have been busy setting it up so VD can secure it after I am finished migrating my website (which by the way they just did - I just got an email ).
During that time I have emailed VD a fair amount of times, sometimes asking for clarification and sometimes asking for assistance with a problem, and they have responded back in a more than acceptable time frame and manner.
The only one major problem I have had so far is that initially, and by initially I mean first ~12 hours, it seems the connection to my server was not all the best. Randomly pages would take a while to load; I was curious as to why this was happening so I did some pinging and saw packets were being lost sometimes. This problem seems to have been auto-corrected itself now and I am did email VD about it; hopefully if it happens again we can get it perma-fixed.
Final verdict: people say "you get what you pay for". I say "I got more than I paid for". Hope it continues this way.
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Nov 3, 2008
Today I'm back to encourage you to stay away from Crissic: I know the prices are tempting, but know that you will have no one on your side when a problem comes up. I finally closed my account with them after numerous major issues with my VPS.
I've had a simultaneous account with Slicehost for the past few months, just to see if paying the extra buck is worth while. Now I know it absolutely is. I'm paying double the price for half the resources with Slicehost, but their service is amazing and reliable, their support is stellar, and peace of mind that the server will stay up and running without load issues, memory or drive failures is worth every penny. The point of this post is not Slicehost though, back to Crissic.
When I signed up for Crissic, I knew that it was a relatively new web hosting startup, but I had no idea it was a one-man show. Yes it's probably possible for a single guy to run a small web hosting company--the problem, particularly in the case of Skylar, is that when something is beyond him, it isn't getting fixed.
A recent support incident occurred where I was suddenly unable to access my VPS via SSH or the console. I contacted support, here are some of his responses to my status inquiries: ....
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Sep 27, 2007
Is it possible to extract part rars using unrar (or other programs) on centos4?
If so, how and what command to use?
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May 13, 2009
Recently we bough a design from DooptNet here @ WHT - See Original Thread
However, After several weeks of having this new design and numerous amounts of time and editing & making our site look a little more respectable, We got this weird live chat conversation with a gentleman named BEN.
This was around 7am AEST & his first sentence to start off this conversation was:
Quote:
Hi Sean, my name is Ben, and I am giving you 24 hours to remove your web site template that you have stolen otherwise I will public display that you have ripped another members template for personal use without permission of the original owner
Wow that was a bit significant to me as we bought this template from DooptNet here at WHT and the thread is located above. We paid $100 AUD/USD for this and we never stole it as it was said in the starting sentence from Ben.
Ben went on to say that:
Quote:
This topics will be displayed in the largest on-line communities on the internet, these include Web Hosting Talk, Warez-BB, wjunction and so forth.
For real right?
Ben also went on further to say that many other people have fallen for this and this is all part of a Con. I am not sure if Ben is telling the truth, But I would like some word from Sean @ DooptNet and this Ben Person.
No E-mail Address was left but - Admin@webhostingtalk.com in the Live Chat.
I asked Ben where we have ripped this site from as I would like to see it, After this Ben left the chat but before hand demanded that I remove the Stolen Content within 24hrs.
Not sure what to do from here, I have contacted Sean here at WHT and are still awaiting a response.
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Jan 12, 2007
I'm designing a network that should be able to support both dedicated servers and also offer colocation (full rack and half rack). Things will be relatively small at start but the design must be able to scale. The colo area will be secured from the dedicated server area.
Right now, this is what I'm thinking:
CORE/DISTRIBUTION combined:
- Two cisco 6509's running HSRP
- Each 6509 is connected to the same two upstream ISP's via BGP (so that means 4 links in total)
- Each 6509 is connected to the access switches (described below)
- The 6509's will have a single gigabit crossconnect between them so that they can talk to each other for HSRP, iBGP, etc.
ACCESS
- Each of our racks will have an L3 switch at the top of the rack for all the servers in the rack to plug into
- there will be ~30 servers per rack
- these switches will use 4 x 1 gbit ports for trunking to the core. They will be configured in two 802.3ad link aggregation groups (ie 2 x 1gbit links per LAG group). One LAG group will connect to the first 6509, the second LAG group will connect to the second 6509.
- The default gateway on these L3 switches will be configured with the HSRP virtual IP address of the 6509's.
-spanning tree will have to be enabled to avoid loops since the two 6509's are connected directly also
QUESTIONS:
1) Each dedicated server will get 5 usable IP addresses, so I'd have to subnet my IP address space accordingly (into a bunch of /29's). This also means that I'd have to setup 1 VLAN per subnet (wich means 1 VLAN per server!). Is this a scalable design? If I have 1000 servers I'd need 1000 VLAN's! Isn't there a limit to the number of VLANS that can be created/handled by my core switches? How do larger providers do it that have thousands of servers?
2) Is this design scalable/redundant? The only single point of failure that I see is my access switch (if it dies, it could take out a rack's worth of servers). I guess I would have to live with this and would have spares on hand.
3) I'm a little confused with the interaction of BGP and HSRP. What happens, for example, if one of the links to one of the ISP's goes down on the active HSRP router? I dont want it to fail over to the inactive HSRP router, because the router is still good, its just a link that went down. Would the active HSRP router be smart enough to realize (maybe via iBGP) that the inactive HSRP router can still route to that ISP and thus just ROUTE the traffic to that inactive 6509 and then have that router send it out to the ISP? I'm assuming this traffic would travel across the 1gbit xconnect between the two 6509's so I may have to consider increasing that capacity using link aggregation aswell?
4) Which cisco switch would be good as my L3 access switch? It would have to support ~30 servers in the rack plus have at least 4x1gbit ports that I can config into two lag groups to uplink to the core.
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Sep 24, 2007
I am comming across a few questions on how to do a setup for a network. I expect to have a redundant configuration similar to this:
________ISP1_______________ISP2
__________|(bgp)_____________|(bgp)
_______Router ---------BGP-------- Router
__________|_____\____ ___/_____|
__(bgp/ospf)|_________/_________|(bgp/ospf)
__________|___/___________ ___|
______L3 switch______________L3 switch
To this point (i hope the ascii diagram is understandable, i did my best on ASCII art), there are no problems. The problem comes when pluging in L2 switches. I would like them to be pluged to both L3 switches, but i don't see how to do this without HSRP or VRRP. The thing is L3 switches will also do VLAN's for the network, so HSRP would mean using 3 IP's for every VLAN and a terrible configuration mess.
I am not seeing the way to do this setup and attach a L2 switch to both L3 switches without using HSRP.
I just want redundancy for the case where one of the routers or L3 switches could fail.
Any light on this kind of setup?
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Jan 29, 2008
I have a small VPS with Serverways and to be honest I have had no problems with it for a week or so - suprising when you see the spec!
My question is - are there any other providers around the globe (looking for VPS servers all over the place) that would sell me a VPS with the following specs:
CPU 100MHZ
100 MB RAM
10GB SATA (Could probably do with less if needed)
No control panel
100GB Bandwidth on- 100mbps port.
4.90 USD
UnManaged
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