HP / Dell Reps For LEASING / Financing

Mar 18, 2008

A couple of questions for the pro's in the business:

1) What is usually the best deal, per month cost wise, leasing or financing the equipment?

2) What is the best way to get a Sales rep from HP and Dell to give you quotes? Just call 1-888-dell?

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XO.com Sales Reps

Sep 25, 2009

What's the deal with these guys? I'm getting treated as poorly by these guys as I did by 365 Main. Been trying to get in touch with my rep for my Fremont colo for two weeks. Everybody is on vacation, nobody picking up their phones. Does anybody know who manages XO's colo sales/customer representatives?

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Dell Perc 5 Raid Card Non-Dell Server

Oct 17, 2007

Will a Perc 5 raid card work in a non-dell Linux server? These cards can be found for about $100 on eBay, and are much cheaper than the Adaptec cards with similar features and ports.

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Is This A Good Price For Dell 1u And Question About Dell's Rail

Aug 21, 2007

PowerEdge SC1435 Dual Core AMD Opteron® 2212; 2.0GHz,2X1MB Cache,1Ghz HyperTransport 143G20 [222-6400] 1
Operating System No Operating System NOOS [420-6320] 11
2nd Processor Single Processor Only 1P [311-3928] 2
Memory FREE UPGRADE! 2GB, 667MHz, 4x512MB Single Ranked DIMMs 2G4D6P [466-7879] 3
TCP/IP Offload Engine Enablement Broadcom® Dual Port TCP/IP Offload Engine Not Enabled NTOEKEY [430-1765] 6
PCI Riser Riser with 1 PCIe Slot PCIE [320-4982] 7
1st Hard Drive 80GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive 80S2 [341-3801] 8
Primary Controller Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID OBSATA [430-1949] 9
Network Adapters On-Board Dual Port Gigabit Network Adapter, No TOE OBNIC [430-2008] 13
CD/DVD Drive No CD/DVD NOCDDVD [313-3924] 16
Bezel Bezel FRTBZL [313-4477] 17
System Documentation No Hard Copy Documentation, E-Docs ONLY and OpenManage CD Kit EDOCS [310-8261] 21
HD Configuration Onboard SATA, 1 Drive connected to Onboard SATA Controller - NO RAID MST1 [341-3957] 27
Chassis Configuration No Rack Rails Included NORAIL [341-3089] 28
Hardware Support Services 1Yr BASIC SUPPORT: 5x10 HW-Only, 5x10 NBD Onsite U1OS [980-9530][985-5117][985-9057] 29
Installation Support Services No Installation Assessment NOINSTL [900-9997] 32
Power Cords Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C14, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter WAL10FT [310-4450] 38

why do Dell's none dell rack rail cost $249? Can i buy the rail for dell from ebay? i saw a dell rail cost only $140 on ebay.

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IWeb Technical Support Reps And System Admins Dont Understand Basic TCP-IP Networking

Aug 22, 2008

I want to pass on a warning before anyone goes with iWEB. I just ordered a $269 a month dedicated server so I could run vmware on it for my own virtual machines that I need.

With this server I got 7 IPs.

The primary IP they assigned me is say for example: 70.xx.15.171 with a GW of 70.xx.15.161. The secondary ips they issue me are 70.xx.18.249-254. So these are on a completly different subnets.

After talking on the phone to several differnt people including tech support who tells me this will work jsut fine useing thoes secondary ips on my VMs and to not put a gateway address. I talk to my account manager he says to open a ticket that he will forward to their system admins.

This is the ticket I opened.

I just got a new server set up CL-T113-140CL. It was
assigned the primary ip of 70.xx.15.171 with a GW of 70.xx.15.161. My
secondary ips are 70.xx.18.249-254. The server we got from you is a
VMWare host. We need to use the secondary IPs for the Guest VMs. How
ever the primary and secondary IPS are on different subnets and so
the VMs useing the IPs 70.xx.18.249-254 can not talk to the gateway.
I need to have a gateway server IP to use for my VMs.

Please either give me a valid GW address for the 70.38.19.x subnet or
assign new secondary IPs on teh 70.xx.15.x subnet with a SM that can
talk to the 70.xx.15.161 GW assigned.

this is the reply I get back from their system adminstrator

The gateway to be used for your secondary IP addresses is the same as
the one for your primary. You should not have anything to change,
gateway-wise. Just leave the current one as default gateway and
everything should work just fine.

If there is anything please do not hesitate to contact us.


Jean-Francois Doucet [iWeb]
System Administrator / Administrateur Système
Support / Client Hub : [url]

Are they brain dead at iWEB? DO they understand basic TCP-IP networking at all?

Here is my last reply. I tried to make it real simple for them to understand.

This does not address the issues. Do you even know what a virtual
machine is? It is a virtual computer running on the host computer.
The host computer has a valid ip address of 70.xx.15.171, sm: gw: 70.xx.15.161. The virtual machines (or guest
operating systems) if I assign it the IP address of 70.xx.18.249 SM: with no gateway it is physically impossible for it to
reach the gateway of the host pc 70.xx.15.161. You have to understand
the Virtual Machine operates as a completely separate computer. It
requires its own gateway. with no gateway specified it has no way to
get out of its local subnet to get to the 70.xx.15.x subnet. What
happens if you put two physical computers on one hub. The computer on
port 1 of the hub has the IP info 70.xx.15.171 SM: GW
70.xx.15.161. The second computer is on port 2. It has the ip info
of: 70.xx.18.249 SM: GW: NONE.
How is the pc on port 2 going to communicate with the pc on port
1? This is the exact situation we are in. There has to be a
gateway to route the IP traffic from pc2 to pc1 to get onto the

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Data Center Leasing

Nov 9, 2007

There is a data center in an office building I manage. I need to lease rack space and the data center manager wants the job. They have made the following proposal:

1 to 4 racks priced at $350 each
5 to 9 racks priced at $300 each
10 to 19 racks priced at $250 each
20 and above priced at $200 each
the management fee is included in above pricing

I do not know the industry standard for leasing commissions but more or less 50% seems high. What do you think? Whatis a fair deal for all?

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Leasing Your Dedicated Servers Or Owning Them

Apr 4, 2008

Just found this site last night and I think it is agreat place to share information on dedicated server hosting.

Currently I have a set of dedicated servers with a hosting company, but they are Celeron D 2Ghz and I was thinking of building my own dedicated servers using Quad core Xeons. The only problem is my current host charges more for using your own server, than leasing theirs.

By charging more I mean in bandwidth the collocation fee is about the same but they only include 500 GB with the collocated server and 1.5 TB with the leased Celeron.

Do you know of a place that has really good connectivity, uptime and good pricing on collocating your own dedicated servers?

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Leasing A Cisco 7301 Router

Jan 27, 2007

The Cisco 7301 has 3 integrated Gig-E ports and one empty slot which we'll use with an OC3 SMI PA for a handoff to SAVVIS. (when will they ever go to Ethernet handoff?)

Is anyone here leasing a Cisco 7301 router, who can comment on the approximate monthly lease cost? I know the approximate retail cost, but can't really guess on the residual after 3, 4, or 5 year lease, so it's hard to estimate the approximate payment to expect. I don't want to get a salesperson involved yet because once they have your phone #, they never stop calling, and I'm not 100% certain we're going with the 7301 (versus a Juniper M5 or M7i).

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Leasing Server Hardware From Other Than Datacenter Itself, Companies

Feb 26, 2008

Are there such companies that LEASE you server hardware at a monthly rate?

This is of course, other than the datacenter where you colo itself which has a hefty price tag.

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Feasibility Of Leasing A 42u Full Rack To Resell As 1u

May 19, 2008

While browsing the offer sections and other providers, I noticed that there is a significant price difference per "1u" if it bought as a full rack vs. buying per unit.

For example, at Colopronto a 44u full-rack costs $550, which is about $12.50 per 1u on average.

While browsing the forums and colo providers, it seems like 1u goes for $50+.

Is it a good business idea to lease a full-rack to resell as 1u to customers? Is it that simple, or more involved?

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Sep 14, 2009

I have a couple of Dell 1950s and in one of them, I have 2x Seagate 15K.5s that I purchased through Dell and I also have a spare sitting in my rack in case one goes bad, also from Dell.

I was going to be repurposing one of my other 1950s and was going to get two more 15K.5s for it, but wasn't planning on getting them through Dell (rip off?). This way, could still keep the same spare drive around in case a drive went bad in that system as well.

When I was talking to my Dell rep recently when purchasing another system, their hardware tech said you can't use non-Dell drives with Dell drives in the same RAID array because of the different firmware between them.

Anyone know if it is true? Anyone have any experience with using drives from Dell in conjunction with the same model drives from a third party retailer?

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Oct 2, 2007

why don't you buy servers from big guys like HP and DELL? Are they too expensive, or servers are not as good as suposed to be, or something else?

Our company is buying all our computers and printers from HP, we are receiving great customer service, waranty, if something gets wrong - we had computer replaced-no problem!

Maybe some small local guys are selling cheaper and better equipment, but I have peace of mind.

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Jul 22, 2009

I know this topic has been brought up before and I wanted to revisit this again. We are a growing hosting company looking to expand our Dedicated server offerings. So far, we have been renting servers and reselling but now we have begun colocating our equipment and are looking for hardware vendors.

Would you recommend us to...

...build our own servers using the Supermicro platform?
...purchase pre-built servers from Dell?
...purchase pre-build servers from HP?

Pricing is of major concern along with speed to provision new orders. Although we don't have a dedicated resource for putting together servers, this is something we can look into should the volume of orders increase. Scalability and Flexibility is a MUST

Thanks for chiming in...

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May 30, 2009

The technical level in our org is quite low.

We would like some advice on the difference between

1. Supermicro PDSML-LN2

2. DELL PowerEdge R200

3. HP Proliant DL120

Some web hosts here in Singapore are leasing them at comparable rates.

Our research shows that the Dell and HP are comparable and the SuperMicro appears to be in a different (lower) class.

How can the servers be leased at comparable rates if they are from different classes?

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Jul 9, 2008

I'm thinking about purchasing a Dell PowerEdge 860 and use it as a web server. I need your guy's inputs on what you guys think of this server regarding the quality, performance, & price.

This server retails for about $420 + s/h.

Here are the specs:

PowerEdge 860 Intel® Celeron® Processor 430 at 1.8GHz, 512K Cache, 800MHz FSB
Operating System No Operating System
Memory 512MB DDR2, 667MHz, 1X512MB Single Ranked DIMMs
Riser Card Riser with 2 Slots: 1 PCI Express x8 slot and 1 PCI Express x4 slot
Primary Hard Drive 80GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive
Primary Hard Drive Controller Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID
Network Adapter On-Board Dual Gigabit Network Adapter, No TOE
Bezel Bezel
Documentation Electronic Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit
Hard Drive Configuration Onboard SATA, 1 Drive connected to Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID
Rack Rail Options No Rails Included
Hardware Support Services 3Yr BASIC SUPPORT: 5x10 HW-Only, 5x10 NBD Onsite
Installation Support Services No Installation Assessment
Power Cords Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter

I know this is a newbie question but with the specs above on the server, will this server be working right out of the box (equipped with PSU & other neccessary equips.) and ready for installtion of linux servers?

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May 25, 2008

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Is there any way to reset this password? I've tried resetting BIOS and that didn't work (I believe it's on a separate system)

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I have not read the Dell return policy in a long time as it was an acceptable 30 days for the most part and no restocking fees.

Its going to be difficult ordering new servers that we have not previously experienced with their now 15% restocking fee.


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Apr 26, 2007

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But I am having a hard time to decide if I should go with supermicro or dell.

But here are the points which I have in mind.

- As far as dell goes, there is a central place for support, for example, if I have any issues, I know who to call exactly and get the issue solved, no resellers involved. If I go with supermicro and buy the hardware from a 3rd party, I dont know who to go to for support say a Motherboard fails or if I have any other questions, should I ask Supermicro themselves or the reseller?

- Has a DRAC card which I've heard is much more powerful than IPMI and I've heard Supermicro has no hardware for remote management as powerful as DRAC, I dont know how true that is.

- If I need any parts I know where I have to go to order them and what exactly to order since they have specific parts for specific server models, I dont know about supermicro.

I know, most of my points are benefiting Dell. But I've heard from the research that Supermicro hardware use less power and have less hard drive failures than Dell Servers, I dont know how true that is.

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Jan 6, 2007

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I need to buy some new servers. I have two options:

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- DELL R200 (more expensive than DL120)

I want to know your opinions about this servers. Two servers have the same specs:

Intel® Xeon® 3065 Dual Core a 2,33 GHz

I already have some R200, but I have never tried none HP server.

And about power consumption, ¿what server have the lowest usage?

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Aug 9, 2009

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I'd like to keep the the Cisco back in HQ stock since it's a POE switch.

We are colocating just 1 SAN intially. Max of maybe 7-8 Servers total in the future. Not alot of bandwidth and doing L2 traffic only. Any issues with either the Dell or HP in the colo environment from a production standpoint. We have used a couple of Procurves in our environment, and the dell switches were freebies that were part of our last order.

Basically, it would look like this

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