L2 Switches......Cisco, Dell And HP
Aug 9, 2009
we are a small shop...
Not looking to buy another switch but we have a crapshoot of switches around. Dell 5448,
HP 2910 and a Cisco 3560.
I'd like to keep the the Cisco back in HQ stock since it's a POE switch.
We are colocating just 1 SAN intially. Max of maybe 7-8 Servers total in the future. Not alot of bandwidth and doing L2 traffic only. Any issues with either the Dell or HP in the colo environment from a production standpoint. We have used a couple of Procurves in our environment, and the dell switches were freebies that were part of our last order.
Basically, it would look like this
ASA5510 serving as main headed VPN
2 Branch Offices connecting to it
One L2 Switch. 2 - 3 Seperate Vlans with a trunk port back out to the ASA5510
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Apr 29, 2008
Does anyone use Dell PowerConnect Switches?
If so please list what model number you use and your thoughts as compared to Cisco switches.
Once again I would like model numbers you are using.
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Jun 19, 2007
Is there such a switch?
Do cisco do a 24 port 1000Mbs switch that you can control each port speed through a web based software?
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Jun 9, 2008
I was checking out the switch products from Cisco and I noticed that there is quite a few products that been discounted, and I am trying to find correct switches that does traffic shaping on port for inbound and outbound.
I preferred they are 48 ports with 2 Gigabit uplinks, with Enterprise L3 image and it is little difficult to find the correct older models that is being sold on ebay to pick up the correct one.
I am also open to Extreme and Foundry switches as well, but I rather like to stick to one type for deployment, since I am working on the plan to deploy 2 core switches which all edge switches will hook into it.
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Oct 17, 2007
Will a Perc 5 raid card work in a non-dell Linux server? These cards can be found for about $100 on eBay, and are much cheaper than the Adaptec cards with similar features and ports.
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Aug 21, 2007
PowerEdge SC1435 Dual Core AMD Opteron® 2212; 2.0GHz,2X1MB Cache,1Ghz HyperTransport 143G20 [222-6400] 1
Operating System No Operating System NOOS [420-6320] 11
2nd Processor Single Processor Only 1P [311-3928] 2
Memory FREE UPGRADE! 2GB, 667MHz, 4x512MB Single Ranked DIMMs 2G4D6P [466-7879] 3
TCP/IP Offload Engine Enablement Broadcom® Dual Port TCP/IP Offload Engine Not Enabled NTOEKEY [430-1765] 6
PCI Riser Riser with 1 PCIe Slot PCIE [320-4982] 7
1st Hard Drive 80GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive 80S2 [341-3801] 8
Primary Controller Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID OBSATA [430-1949] 9
Network Adapters On-Board Dual Port Gigabit Network Adapter, No TOE OBNIC [430-2008] 13
CD/DVD Drive No CD/DVD NOCDDVD [313-3924] 16
Bezel Bezel FRTBZL [313-4477] 17
System Documentation No Hard Copy Documentation, E-Docs ONLY and OpenManage CD Kit EDOCS [310-8261] 21
HD Configuration Onboard SATA, 1 Drive connected to Onboard SATA Controller - NO RAID MST1 [341-3957] 27
Chassis Configuration No Rack Rails Included NORAIL [341-3089] 28
Hardware Support Services 1Yr BASIC SUPPORT: 5x10 HW-Only, 5x10 NBD Onsite U1OS [980-9530][985-5117][985-9057] 29
Installation Support Services No Installation Assessment NOINSTL [900-9997] 32
Power Cords Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C14, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter WAL10FT [310-4450] 38
why do Dell's none dell rack rail cost $249? Can i buy the rail for dell from ebay? i saw a dell rail cost only $140 on ebay.
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Dec 16, 2007
My host has helped me to install a switch. However, I don't know how to configure using the command line. Could anyone help me?
I need to be able to connect to my Cisco switch using Cisco Network Assistant. If you know the command sequence,
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Nov 23, 2007
I am building an advanced network in a big building which will be used by desktop/printers and backend thin servers, which requires high-available network and consume high bandwidth all this thru categorie 6 cables (RJ-45).
The idea is to build different path with optical fibers and to connect each part of the building with it's own optical fiber to the server room (where we run Microsoft company network servers, SAN, backup, and external access) using a 10/100/1000 switch and optical fiber for long distance.
So I though about using switches which have at least :
48 ports 10/100/1000 (auto negociation)
4 ports 10 gE
for now I will not use many features but with time I could create some trunk, and use some advanced *routing* (switching) features.
As the budget is also not unlimited, I thought about buying :
Edge switch :
§ HP ProCurve 2900-48G J9050A [url]
with X2 extension HP ProCurve 10-GbE X2-SC SR Optic J8436A [url]
Core switch :
§ HP ProCurve 6400cl J8433A [url]
As I am studying any network vendor (but not such as 3com, netgear, dlink, linksys), but more such as HP, Extreme, Cisco, Foundry I am opended to your model ideas for me needs!
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Apr 1, 2007
I am in the market for some new switches and I was going to buy some HP stuff, but a friend of mine recommended 3com....their prices are dirt cheap....any experience with them?
Does anyone have any words to compare and contrast the two based on experience?
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Jul 2, 2008
I just stumbled across mention of bonding two NICs to serve as one. (E.g., 100Mbps NIC + 100Mbps NIC = 'virtual' 200 Mbps NIC, as far as everything on the network is concerned.)
I'd been familiar with the concept for quite some time, but I guess I never really thought it through until just now...
How does this work with switches? It seems to me that the answer should be a flat, "It doesn't." But it seems that it does work. How does the switch merrily map an IP to two different ports? Do the two NICs maintain their MACs? (Wouldn't two MACs to one IP cause even more problems?)
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Sep 12, 2007
to buy some more Layer 3 switches but I'd like to get ipv6 support. I like the Cisco 3550 but it does not support ipv6.
Can someone recommend a switch in the same price range (less than $1400 for 48 ports) that supports ipv6? This will be used for connecting to customer servers.
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Dec 25, 2007
where I can get the best price for HP switches? Looking for 1x2848 and 1x2650
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Jun 28, 2008
basic layer2 10G, most everything out there has more advanced L3 features which is fine but aren't nessecary, they maybe used at some point in the future.
Currently looking at the cisco 4900M as it appears to be very cost effective at ~$10k/ for the chassis w/8 port 10gb base, + xenpack cost and it isn't a very costly piece of gear.
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Feb 22, 2007
We're ready to setup 3-4 42U racks for servers and are in need of choosing Ethernet switches. What do you guys use and why?
I'm looked at Cisco switches, but lost in their product forest. I'm looked at Express 500, 2960 and 3750-E models. Is there any more difference (in exception of stacking, cli and hot-swap fan/psu) that I need to consider? Prices differentiate too much.
I'm also looked at Linksys/D-Link business products and they seems to have the same features as Cisco Express series, but only 50% cheaper.
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Sep 14, 2009
I have a couple of Dell 1950s and in one of them, I have 2x Seagate 15K.5s that I purchased through Dell and I also have a spare sitting in my rack in case one goes bad, also from Dell.
I was going to be repurposing one of my other 1950s and was going to get two more 15K.5s for it, but wasn't planning on getting them through Dell (rip off?). This way, could still keep the same spare drive around in case a drive went bad in that system as well.
When I was talking to my Dell rep recently when purchasing another system, their hardware tech said you can't use non-Dell drives with Dell drives in the same RAID array because of the different firmware between them.
Anyone know if it is true? Anyone have any experience with using drives from Dell in conjunction with the same model drives from a third party retailer?
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Mar 5, 2007
I had the chance to work with the summit24 switches, and I personally liked them. It is straight-forward in my opinion for the Web Interface compared to others I have seen and the pricing seems to be reasonable.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with any of their switching devices.
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Jan 26, 2007
I current do some rsync backups with a command like so every day
rsync -az -e ssh --stats --delete --exclude "stuff" / user@server:/home/user/
What I want to do is have some incremental backups in there in subdirectories. So, for example, something like this on the remote server
/home/user/something.tuesday
/home/user/something.friday
I thought the --backup --backup-dir Switches were used to store just the files that had changed in seperate directories, am I wrong on that?
I've read everything I could find, including the big rsnapshot scripts, but I'm not able to do what I want, it seems so simple but something's not right, am I wrong that subdirs should have just files that are new or have changed. I tried various things like this, but had no luck
rsync -az -e ssh --stats --delete --backup --backup-dir=/home.Thursday --exclude "stuff" / user@server:/home/user/
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Oct 2, 2007
why don't you buy servers from big guys like HP and DELL? Are they too expensive, or servers are not as good as suposed to be, or something else?
Our company is buying all our computers and printers from HP, we are receiving great customer service, waranty, if something gets wrong - we had computer replaced-no problem!
Maybe some small local guys are selling cheaper and better equipment, but I have peace of mind.
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Jul 22, 2009
I know this topic has been brought up before and I wanted to revisit this again. We are a growing hosting company looking to expand our Dedicated server offerings. So far, we have been renting servers and reselling but now we have begun colocating our equipment and are looking for hardware vendors.
Would you recommend us to...
...build our own servers using the Supermicro platform?
...purchase pre-built servers from Dell?
...purchase pre-build servers from HP?
Pricing is of major concern along with speed to provision new orders. Although we don't have a dedicated resource for putting together servers, this is something we can look into should the volume of orders increase. Scalability and Flexibility is a MUST
Thanks for chiming in...
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May 30, 2009
The technical level in our org is quite low.
We would like some advice on the difference between
1. Supermicro PDSML-LN2
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2. DELL PowerEdge R200
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3. HP Proliant DL120
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Some web hosts here in Singapore are leasing them at comparable rates.
Our research shows that the Dell and HP are comparable and the SuperMicro appears to be in a different (lower) class.
How can the servers be leased at comparable rates if they are from different classes?
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Jul 9, 2008
I'm thinking about purchasing a Dell PowerEdge 860 and use it as a web server. I need your guy's inputs on what you guys think of this server regarding the quality, performance, & price.
This server retails for about $420 + s/h.
Here are the specs:
PowerEdge 860 Intel® Celeron® Processor 430 at 1.8GHz, 512K Cache, 800MHz FSB
Operating System No Operating System
Memory 512MB DDR2, 667MHz, 1X512MB Single Ranked DIMMs
Riser Card Riser with 2 Slots: 1 PCI Express x8 slot and 1 PCI Express x4 slot
Primary Hard Drive 80GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive
Primary Hard Drive Controller Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID
Network Adapter On-Board Dual Gigabit Network Adapter, No TOE
CD/DVD Drive No CD/DVD
Bezel Bezel
Documentation Electronic Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit
Hard Drive Configuration Onboard SATA, 1 Drive connected to Onboard SATA Controller - No RAID
Rack Rail Options No Rails Included
Hardware Support Services 3Yr BASIC SUPPORT: 5x10 HW-Only, 5x10 NBD Onsite
Installation Support Services No Installation Assessment
Power Cords Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
I know this is a newbie question but with the specs above on the server, will this server be working right out of the box (equipped with PSU & other neccessary equips.) and ready for installtion of linux servers?
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May 25, 2008
Got a Dell PE 2650 that I sold last week, the guy who has bought it wants the RAC (remote access controller) working on it. Unfortunately I don't have the password for it, in order to log it on, rendering it useless.
Is there any way to reset this password? I've tried resetting BIOS and that didn't work (I believe it's on a separate system)
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Apr 8, 2008
we would buy the new PE R300 but for now the Drac5 not is yet available but we could buy it as external kit, someone have try it with R300? any issue?
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Apr 18, 2008
I have not read the Dell return policy in a long time as it was an acceptable 30 days for the most part and no restocking fees.
Its going to be difficult ordering new servers that we have not previously experienced with their now 15% restocking fee.
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Apr 26, 2007
configuration on Supermicro hardware and dell hardware, the pricing is pretty much the same 100+/- so thats not an issue.
But I am having a hard time to decide if I should go with supermicro or dell.
But here are the points which I have in mind.
- As far as dell goes, there is a central place for support, for example, if I have any issues, I know who to call exactly and get the issue solved, no resellers involved. If I go with supermicro and buy the hardware from a 3rd party, I dont know who to go to for support say a Motherboard fails or if I have any other questions, should I ask Supermicro themselves or the reseller?
- Has a DRAC card which I've heard is much more powerful than IPMI and I've heard Supermicro has no hardware for remote management as powerful as DRAC, I dont know how true that is.
- If I need any parts I know where I have to go to order them and what exactly to order since they have specific parts for specific server models, I dont know about supermicro.
I know, most of my points are benefiting Dell. But I've heard from the research that Supermicro hardware use less power and have less hard drive failures than Dell Servers, I dont know how true that is.
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Jan 6, 2007
i notice the Dell do not configure the on board SATA to any RAID unless you purchase add on RAID adapter.
does this mean you can't configure it yourself? do dell poweredge onboard SATA controller support any RAID at all? do dell allow you to configure it yourself or you must purchase the add on RAID adapter?
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Jul 26, 2009
how to add additional HDD on Dell M-series blade server. What i have seen till now is that only 2 HDD space is available on those server, i would request expert opinion on this issue. Experienced users please share your views or how did u guyz solve this issue.
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Jun 9, 2009
trying to configure this thing, the software on Dell's site (IT Assistant) is what they tell you to use however it wants to scan the network looking for the device. This won't work because I bought this off ebay and god knows what it is set for right now. What is the easy way to reconfigure and talk to this card? Newer DRACs have a boot time config
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Oct 5, 2009
Just wondering what is your preference when choosing a vendor based server as a provider? Do you go with Dell? HP? IBM? Or another vendor to offer to your customers? What are your reasons for using the brand you do?
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Aug 5, 2009
Just wondering what your thoughts are on these. We just got a coupler of them in....fully loaded, and it's extremely quiet compared to the 2950's III...
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Anyone have used them ? I tried to find some informations, but can't find any... seems to be new!
I plan to buy one with 2 x 146GB 15k SAS and 4 x 1TB SATA and use it as NFS for XenServer or ESXi (both free version) to have a manual (human) failover (or maybe scripted if I can).
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