I purchased a dual opteron, 4gb server from Geeks and was thinking of colocation, but the prices are outlandish.
I currently have a dual Xeon 2.4ghz, 4gb ram, 100mbps with 5tb b/w (leased) and it costs me $149/mo.
To colocate my server I get 500gb b/w and it costs me $69 is the lowest I've found. Why would a person colocate instead of just leasing?
I'm not much of a co-location expert as we do not own our own equipment but a customer we help from time to time is asking me about this. They have a cabinet at theplanet and only a pair of redundant 100mbit uplinks coming into their cisco 2924 they rent from theplanet. Theplanet wants $350/mo along with $350 setup for a pair of redundant gigabit uplinks. Then another $225/mo for a Cisco Catalyst 2960G.
Does this at all seem reasonable to anyone? The switch can just be purchased so it's not that big of a deal. The uplink cost cannot be avoided though. If it's not reasonable obviously they can go back to their account manager to discuss it but I don't know what you'd expect to pay in Dallas for that.
Also before anyone suggests any other provider not an option. Last time they looked around theplanet was the only provider in dallas capable of handling the attacks. Others would just null route the IP's rather than trying to mitigate the attacks. So no point in making suggestions as it's been explored in the past.
What is the average going rate for a DS3 (45Mbps) or OC3 (155Mbps) from tier one and two providers? What is the average pricing for transport cost using these two methods?
View 9 Replies View RelatedSo I needed to reboot one of my colocated machines into a different kernel, compile and load a kernel module (for a network interface) and then bring up that interface. So I called the datacenter support to ask if they could compile and load the module for me and inquire as to about how long that would take. On their website they say they provide Best Effort third party application support and 24/7 Phone Support with on site server admins so this doesn't really seem like a unreasonable request. I want to pay them for support and they're there to do it right?
Apparently not.
The support guy said that compiling and loading the module was dependant on "very many factors". The first "factor" he inquired about was what OS we were running--Debian. "Debian isn't a supported OS, we can't do that for you." What? I'm sorry you CAN'T do it? I thought you provided "Best Effort" support. This seems more like zero effort support to me. (I'm willing to provide step by step instructions but apparently they won't do that because they don't want to.)
Ok, fine, you won't compile and load something for me no big deal that's what KVMs are for.
"Can you hook up a KVM?"
"Sure"
"How much would that cost"
"I don't know, this is the support department not the sales department, you'd have to ask the sales department tomorrow."
Really? So if my server is exploding at night and you wont even try to do anything about it and my only option is to have you setup a KVM you can't tell me how much that will cost? What am I going to tell my boss when we get a rediculous bill for a KVM--the support guy wouldn't tell me how much it costs? Not good enough. Not only that but you're going to be a give me a snarky response to my question--a question I only asked because you wouldn't provide remote hands?
Is it just me or is it pretty rediculous that the support guys can't tell you how much KVM costs? Not all situations where you'd need KVM are planned or happen during the hours the sales department is open. It apparently isn't a problem to have them hook up the KVM 24/7 you just wont know how much it's going to cost you until the next business day. Is this typical of datacenter support?
My guess is that support is completely hit and miss, I've had great experiences with a small datacenter before (Joe's helped out when a hard drive in a RAID failed) and bad experiences with larger datacenters (one you've all heard of, I asked ahead of time if they could ghost a drive and replace it. They said yes. I provided step by step instructions with screenshots they tried it and failed saying "I don't really know linux, I'm a windows guy, I don't know what I'm doing, I messed it up somehow, I don't know what I did" and yet still billed me for it).
I'm working for an organisation which is looking for a company who can provide us with a public website to be updated with a CMS and 132 secure areas which should be accessible from that public website.
Today I was sent a proposal by them stating that there would be a cost per year of:
£3,350 for data storage areas of up to 20mb space per secure area (i.e. £25 per secure area)
£6,700 for data storage areas of up to 75mb space per secure area (i.e. £50.70 per secure area)
We really would prefer much more space per area than this (upwards of 2GB per area) and are a bit wary of how much is being charged for the storage space.
I have three questions on this :
1) How do these prices compare with other hosts that you know of? Are they reasonable?
2) Is this 'secure space' much more expensive than normal space?
3) Are there hosts that offer unlimited secure space for reasonable prices?
Btw, these are the facilities that this host provides:
6 redundant Internet connections
24x7x365 onsite support
Fire protection
Backup power generators
Daily back up to magnetic tape media
Anti virus protection for all uploaded content
Industry Standard Cisco firewalls
Is windows hosting more expensive than linux? Since the OS isn't free to start with?
View 14 Replies View Relatedhow much R1soft costs?
Is it worth it?
Do you have to keep your backups on one of their servers?
Is there any way to figure out what kind of costs it would take to have a site streaming live cam 24hrs a day?
I guess one of the biggest problems would be if someone was to leave their PC on and download 24/7?
Just curious if anyone has some case studies/feedback regarding using Amazon S3 (or similar) services as a way to offset hosting needs and costs.
By that I mean being able to use a lower config server or less bandwidth because media/content is hosted on Amazon servers.
I've had Jatol as a host and a few years back, they were just about the best deal out there.
Recently, I've come to learn that they will simply let the sites go down.
They host a number of my sites which have been down for a couple of days now, no one can acces. In addition their helpdesk and main site remain down and support fails to even respond to emails. Whois listed phone is disconnected.
I can't even access cpanel to backup log files/copy stats before moving to another host.
I'm getting the impression they won't honor the remaining time on the account (prepaid for (1) year). This possible fraud?
I've just had a quote for a VPS that seemed good value for money until the cost of a Direct Admin license was added ($15 extra).
Looking at DA's pricing the cheapest license you can buy is an internal license (in bulk) which is available to server providers only at 9$ a month.
If that is the case why is it that quite a few providers in the offers forum are providing DA for 5$ or 6$?
As these licenses are being offered on low end VPS with tight margins anyway, I can't understand how they can afford to make a loss on the control panel (if they are in fact).
How much would it cost roughly to build a data center? I am curious because in the future I may build one
View 14 Replies View RelatedI had been a Omnis.com customer for the last 6 years.
Was hosting 8 Domains with them and paying nearly $100 on each domain per year.
Now this issue happened many times before but i ignored it, but not anymore.
One of the accounts - they had capped email limit of 200MB - now we all know that is not much.
One morning i getup and i have no emails - wondering what the issue is , i login to my account and notice that i am 30MB over the limit, now that is not too much, so i think i willjust login and clear some emails and make room.
To my surprise on logging in - i see NO EMAILS whatsoever in any of my email accounts. Now the dilema is what to delete when i see no emails , so my next step is to call customer support.
Thinking that i am in Los Angeles, these guys are in Los Angeles - they would be nice and helpful , to my surprise i have never spoken to more rude and egoistic people in my life.
The support guy has only 1 solution for me - go in to my email control panel and delete the accounts and recreate them to get free disk space - but is that not amazing - he says i cannot see any of my emails because i am over the limit -- he says he cannot upgrade my account even if i pay right away , because i am over the limit - so only solution delete the account - with a sad heart i deleted my wife's account which had 40MB in it and recreated it.
Even then the emails did not show up - so very nicely the support guy says - Sir! give it 4 - 5 hours to refresh and then you will see your emails.
Now tell me my friends is this the kind of host you would ever want to go with ? that also after spending nearly $700 every year for the last 6 years..
Please stay away from them - i am in the process of moving over to innohosting after reading this forums , rameen of innohosting was so helpful - wish all hosts were the same.
I have a client with a site (wordpress blog) that gets 10,000 + hits a day. I need to find him a dedicated managed server so that his site runs smoothly and also has no outages. I just received a quote from another host for his Managed Dedicated Servers.
CPU1: Intel Xeon 5310 Clovertown (Quad Core)
CPU2: Intel Xeon 5310 Clovertown (Quad Core)
Total CPU Cores: Eight (8)
System RAM: 6144MB (6GB) DDR2 ECC Registered System RAM
Primary Hard Disk: 73GB Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) 15,000 RPM High-Performance Hard Disk
Second Hard Disk: 250GB SATA-II 7,200 RPM Hard Disk (nightly backup disk)
Data Transfer: 2000GB Premium Monthly Bandwidth (100Mbps uplinked port)
Operating System: CentOS Enterprise Linux 5 64-Bit (x86_64)
Control Panel License: cPanel / WHM + Fantastico Auto Installer$695 a month
He posts about 5-10 blogs a day too, so it's definitely a growing community website. He also has a forum with 6500 posts and 389 members.
Is this a reasonable price for a dedicated server? Would you recommend a different configuration of hardware that might make it cheaper? I would also like some examples of other sites on similar configurations if you have any, so that I can show my client what they use.
We've been buying our Microsoft licences retail which was fine when we were a lot smaller. But as we grow I was thinking about the joining the Microsoft services provider licence agreement.
Can anyone out there give me an idea if this is a worthwhile route to take for a managed services webhost? If so what are the requirements, we aren't a Microsoft partner, have no Microsoft certifications, etc.
What are the initial costs? What are the long term costs?
which data center has lowest rack/power costs, yet has decent reputation, security, and remote hands?
we have expanded to the point where we have backup equipment scattered everywhere and want to consolidate that equipment into a single rack or two.
Network quality is not an issue as it is backup, will only be used if we lose something elsewhere.
actually we are hosting around 130-140 sites on a dedicated server in spain. We are paying 325 € (442 $) per month for the server, 250gb of backup space included, plus 105 € (143 $) per month for admin of the box, that help us to migrate new sites, install scripts, hack attacks, etc.
That includes cpanel, fantastico, q9300 cpu, 4 gb ram, 2x500 gb sata in raid 1, 100 mb port and 16 ip's. I know we can get more for less, but the connectivity in spain is fast for our clients, very reliable, and the phone support of datacenter is fast when we need it.
Apart from that, i have to pay for rvskin, rvsitebuilder and easyantispam.
What i want to know, is there a way i could get a good european host with good network uptime and datacenter support if needed (i.e. ram needs to be changed, kvm doesn't work, etc) and, if possible, good management (although i can continue to pay what i pay).
I was thinking that as our box is underused (176 gb home dir, around 200 gb total, avg load for week 0.97) maybe a managed cluster host could help to cut our costs greatly (at least 30%) maintaining or even improving speed & quality of service? or even grid hosting or vps?
Is there a "premium" for colocation space in cabinets which are taller than 42U? I'm putting some cabinets into a datacenter cage, which I will lease to 3rd parties as colocation cabinets, and there is plenty of height below the ceiling (about 290 cm). I could put in 42U cabinets, but I could go taller, up to about 48U.
The cabinets will have about 10 kW delivered to them (8 kW usable per cabinet), but the UPS is sized for an average load of 5 kW per cabinet. Cabinet depth is 1200 mm. There will be cable tray 10 cm above the cabinet.
If you were going to colo 5 kW of equipment (average) per cabinet, would 48U cabinets have value to you over 42U high cabinets?
I found a couple of phrases mentioning them here on WHT, both praising and negative. Can't make up my mind.
View 2 Replies View RelatedI'm soon going to purchasing a rack server from Dell, and have been looking into the options of basing it within the UK, as it seems best.
I've looked into the Rapid switch data centre in Berkshire, aswell as Blue square in Maidenhead.
I'm with is looking to colo 2 x 1RU servers in the US, so looking for suitable colo facilities.
We definitely want to buy, own and manage the servers ourselves, so we're after colo & bandwidth, not server rental.
As we're new to colo in the US, any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Servers will be 2 x quad core CPU, 8GB RAM, 2 x SAS HDDs, 1 x PSU, so we'll obviously need a facility able to provide the required power at a reasonable cost.
We'll need 4 network points, 2 for each server (1 Internet, 1 LOM).
Bandwidth wise, we're expecting to start with low demand, but grow steadily over the next two to three years.
Ideally we're after flat rate bandwidth in the order of 512Kbps - 2 Mbps, aggregated across the network points, with no excess usage charges.
95th percentile billing is also an option, but less preferred - we'd much rather know we have a fixed monthly OpEx, instead of the unpleasant surprise of a large excess bandwidth bill!
We're happy to look at other bandwidth options, so long as they provide a fixed monthly cost, and let us scale at a reasonable price, as we need it.
We'll like a /28 of IP space - 8-10 usable, but may be able to get away with a /29 if it's the make or break decision.
I am looking to colo a 1U server in a DC in North Carolina. I would need a 10Mbit line un-metered or a metered 100mbit.
I could negotiate on the bandwidth if its not possible in NC .
I have been researching for a while and the DCs here are very very expensive so far...
I've recently acquired a 1U rack mount server from eBay. I believe it kicks some butt...and now I am thinking about looking for a colocation provider to host it for me.
It's for my own websites, not web hosting or storage. I don't need any sophisticated control panel, as I've pretty much made my own. I only need enough IP addresses to have my own name servers and one for all of my websites (I don't need each site to have a unique IP). I don't need any management help as I can manage my own servers. A simple data center control panel with the ability to hard reboot my server would be nice.
However, if the provider charges anything above $70-$80, I can just rent a dedicated server for around the same price. I know the dedicated server would not have the same features and hardware as my server, but if I'm providing the server, why should I be charged the same amount as if they were providing me with a server?
I'm trying to figure out my whole DNS situation now that I switched over to colocation. I have 2 servers, one hosts multiple sites and the other is just a backup.
I'm not sure what to do with DNS hosting. I could either host my DNS on both the servers (ns1,ns2 main server ns3,ns4 backup server). Does this mean if the main server goes down (ns1,ns2) it'll start using ns2,ns3? If so, can I just have ns2,ns3 point to my backup server IPs and traffic will just resume on the backup of the main server goes down?
If I go with a service like DNSMadeEasy.com, can I just point my main domain's name servers to ns1.dnsmadeeasy.com, ns2, ns3, etc.. and then point all my other domain's name servers back to my main domain OR would I have to point all my individual domains to dnsmadeeasy's name servers?
I have several servers on datacenters.
I was wondering, I always did, that is would be so much nicer to own the hardware. I looked for colocation prices in the past but the prices where allot higher then to rent from a datacenter.
Is this really so?
Is best to buy the hardware and send it to a colocation service or to rent a specific harware.
The colocation prices are normally per Mbit, that means there is not montly GB limits, you can go as fast a the switch allows?
How can you test if you are really getting the speed, any guarantee.
Also what happens if a hard disk fails? Do you have to buy one on overnight and send it to the datacenter? They will charge you for installation i suppose.
We are looking for reviews of colocation companies offering quarter racks at BlueSquare, or another data centre in the south of England. We are based in Dorset and as far as we can tell the nearest data centres are in Bournemouth (not open yet), Southampton (don't know too much about those) and Maidenhead (BlueSquare, where we currently colocate a couple of 1U servers).
Companies we have been considering are connexions4london, a1isp and netrino but we are a bit short on information about their reputations. Reliability is the single most important thing to us, we are not necessarily looking for the cheapest, but for somebody with a good history of service level.
Can anybody tell us about their experiences with any of these companies? I heard about some trouble with Netrino last year but nothing recent, and also a that a1isp use netrino, can anybody confirm or deny that? We have also spoken extensively with connexions4london but we would have to sign up for at least a year - which we would be happy to do if we knew their service was great.
I have a few questions which I'd like answered if possible.
Firstly, I understand 1U is the space in the rank etc etc -- my question is, does one server usually fill up one 1U?
What is meant by premium bandwidth? is that a type of bandwidth charge? is there any other types?
What is meant by 5mbps?
could anyone explain to me what colocation is?
View 2 Replies View Relatedwith a decent article as to what colocation is? I have been looking and havn't been able to determine it. I'm trying to do some research as to why my web host is being .... difficult.
View 1 Replies View RelatedI've been noticing always that colocation seems to be much more expensive then with leased dedicated servers, especially when it comes to the A). connection size and B). transfer bandwidth given to you. So has anyone seen good colocation pricing (anywhere in the US or Canada) that has these specs? Leased dedicated servers are at these low of prices, so why not colo?
1U Server around $100 to $150 /mo: 1000-2500 GB (or unmetered) Bandwidth Transfer each month
10Mbps or 100Mbps connection (not 1Mbps).
Anyone seen any $500 to $1500 /mo. for a full cabinet with these specs:
Full Cabinet / Rack (20 Amps or 40 Amps): Unmetered Bandwidth Transfer each month
10Mbps or 100Mbps connection (not 1Mbps).
When dedicated server places like softlayer say that your server is on 10Mbps or 100Mbps, does this mean it is 10Mbps shared among many servers or is it dedicated with your server? Many colocation facilities quote prices with 1Mbps dedicated for the prices I mention above.
I've been using dedicated servers for past 2 years.
I'm a Usenet reseller moving to setting up Usenet Provider.
For Usenet peering with two residents in AMS-IX, I probably require a cross-connect, require at least 4u space with at least 50Mbit. All I can find is companies like Ohtele.com and true.nl who have a "presence" there with IP transit, what exactly does that mean? If I wanted a cross-connect to an AMS-IX resident, my server(s) must also be in that datacenter, correct?