I have a problem with Yahoo defering my email from servers for weeks!
I've submit to [url]
from
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MANY TIMES! this is getting me frustrated. what's more.. i try to change my SMTP to a new server (fresh IP within same network in the same DC) and it is ALSO deferred. How do I check if this has something to do with a whole block of IP maybe listed in some spam engine or something?
I was wondering if some of you more seasoned techie's can help me. I have a reseller hosting account and one of my clients is having issues with getting any email that is sent from any yahoo email account to her domain email. I have personally tried to send an email from my yahoo account to her domain email and here is the error I got back. None of my other clients has the issue. This is a new account by the way.
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Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<andrea@jazzinaroundfarm.com>:
Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1)
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
Return-Path: <helpahorse24053@yahoo.com>
Received: (qmail 41845 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Sep 2007 21:20:30 -0000
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
h=X-YMail-OSG:Receivedate:Fromubject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID;
b=iHu3WMU1gy5851VB+uyII7S0C2aOM3g6TEYnsWmtIWTwFLEJAI67A28e6mchNTTyfX3ioPZ9rl9TmA3l8J0YDPCDWWZcGMKqhVFco6nIHkaCVpF6ALXJ7q41VxHsn+nYFnb5UUpgVZ7lk+RDIyjv 70wiO+xmqzEXO/OAzEXvi0E=;
X-YMail-OSG: smDGXoAVM1lr_heTahTlEwmcKX4NEdCpvRAoON1.hOTrI6lWRVaNB0vUqOXD7pOWmadYN8I4vlXjvYS2W2xVQsH0rw--
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:20:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: betty haynes <helpahorse24053@yahoo.com>
Subject: testing to see if this comes through...this is Betty
To: andrea@jazzinaroundfarm.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1780532074-1190236830=:41745"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: <315189.41745.qm@web35804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Just seeing if this comes through via my yahoo addy.
4-the-luv-of-a-critter
Please check out our new animal placement web site. It is a free service for anyone who is looking to place their pets in a new home.We list any animal regardless of species, breed, age etc .Our service is also used for those looking for that new pet. For more information please see our web site at [url]
Low Cost Web Design & Hosting [url]
My animals are the reason I live and breathe. With out them in my life I would just as soon be dead !---Betty Haynes
--0-1780532074-1190236830=:41745
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Just seeing if this comes through via my yahoo addy.<BR><BR><FONT color=#a040ff> <DIV>4-the-luv-of-a-critter <BR>Please check out our new animal placement web site. It is a free service for anyone who is looking to place their pets in a new home.We list any animal regardless of species, breed, age etc .Our service is also used for those looking for that new pet. For more information please see our web site at <A href="http://www.4-the-luv-of-a-critter.com/">[url]</A> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Low Cost Web Design & Hosting <A href="[url]">[url]</A> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My animals are the reason I live and breathe. With out them in my life I would just as soon be dead !---Betty Haynes</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT>
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We've recently had a lot of complaints from clients who say Yahoo! mail recipients are not receiving the emails they send. We first noticed this sometime November 2006 but it could have started earlier.
One solution would be to find another hosting provider. The problem is I suspect that it's happening to a lot of hosts and it's Yahoo! in particular that seems to have been a lot more stringent than they were in the past.
I remember some time back (2004 or 2005), AOL blocked an EHOSTPROS.COM server (SVR28) for over 6 months. We also had SVR75 with them and it wasn't blocked (I believe they were in the same DC). And AOL was notorious for blocking a lot of servers. I don't know how it is with them now because from the Philippines, there is very little email exchange with AOL.COM or AIM.COM accounts.
And there is a lot of emails going to YAHOO.COM accounts! And that's where the problem lies.
I first noticed it on my ResellerZoom reseller account (GRAY). Mails from GRAY accounts were completely blocked off by Yahoo! It didn't even go to the Bulk Folder. So Yahoo! was blocking the GRAY server's mail IP and not particular domains (I don't think blocking a domain makes any sense, you usually block IP's).
I opened a ticket with RZ and got great support. But of course, it was about 3 days before Yahoo! started accepting mails from GRAY. RZ did the best they can but could only have done so much.
And then the same thing happened with my HostGator reseller account (INFINITI). Similar issue as well.
From that time until today, it seems to come back on and off. Sometimes emails never reach Yahoo!, sometimes it lands in the Bulk Folder (that's a much lesser evil).
I have 3 reseller accounts at RZ (CAMERON B1, GRAY A1, R2 Failover-1) and 2 reseller accounts at HG (INFINITI and SONOMA). The same issue has come back again the past couple of days on INFINITI (HostGator) and GRAY (ResellerZoom). I'd open a ticket but it's on and off.
Dec 5 / Dec 6, several clients on INFINITI complained that emails to Yahoo! recipients were not being delivered. By the time we tested it, it was ok already. And then just a few hours ago, we got a call from a client on GRAY. We tested and emails were landing on the Bulk Folder. But after a couple of more tests, it went to the Inbox.
We advise clients to tell Yahoo! recipients to always check their Bulk Folders. We also ask the recipients to tag emails with MARK AS NOT SPAM hoping that would help.
You could say that I should be going to HG and RZ support for these. It's just that I don't think it's limited to them and I want to get feedback from others. I will also invite HG and RZ to give their comments on this post.
In the reseller hosting area, I'll actually be asking around also for reseller hosting that's more reliable with email. But I've been doing reseller hosting since May 2003 and have used all of the following:
EHOSTPROS.COM, HOSTDIME.COM, MIDPHASE.COM, SITE5.COM, BLIKSEMHOSTING.COM, HOSTGATOR.COM, RESELLERZOOM.COM
There were more in between but that was a quick in and out. The above list in the sequence I signed up and only includes those that I stayed with long enough (at least 6 months) to evaluate and decide if they're worth it.
I won't expound but avoid MIDPHASE, SITE5, and BLIKSEM. There's enough here on WHT for you to search upon.
My point is that, by far, I've had the best experience with HG and RZ and it does get tiring moving from one host to the other. And it's not that we haven't contributed to the problem. A lot of our clients' contact us forms have recently been hijacked by spammers and have caused abuse on the servers. We're working on fixing each and everyone of these scripts (> 80) and should solve it within a few days. We do our part but there are hundreds of accounts and millions of ways spammers try to hijack server resources for their cause. Note, however, that those scripts have been there for quite awhile and only recently have they been used to spam.
Although there are a lot of other hosts with good reps here on WHT, the only other host I am considering (for the moment) is Aussie Bob's DOTABLE.COM.
But then, right now, with these email woes, we're still evaluating our business. The bulk of our clients are dependent on email. Too much incoming spam is already an issue but mails not reaching intended recipients kinds of ruins the business.
Damned these spammers!
Is there actually a viable solution for this issue? Or is it something that we just have to start living with?
I have been getting this recently...For these two email addresses. Is there something that I can do about this? I've done tons of searching on google and actually putting my error (the one in the title) in quotes brings up like 3 results. All the other results bring up other numbers so...This isn't any sort of dns issue is it? I don't see why it would be but...I would preferably like to get rid of this little error. Has anyone else experienced it before? Thanks!
Code:
2007-06-01 16:06:06 1HtOBC-0006io-0a == jeffnelson@mac.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-01 17:06:03 1HttZJ-0003oP-Ff == ssingh@emlab.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-01 17:06:03 1HtOBC-0006io-0a == jeffnelson@mac.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-01 18:06:03 1HttZJ-0003oP-Ff == ssingh@emlab.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-01 18:06:07 1HtOBC-0006io-0a == jeffnelson@mac.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-01 19:06:03 1HttZJ-0003oP-Ff == ssingh@emlab.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-01 19:06:04 1HtOBC-0006io-0a == jeffnelson@mac.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-01 21:06:12 1HtOBC-0006io-0a == jeffnelson@mac.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-01 22:06:02 1HtOBC-0006io-0a == jeffnelson@mac.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-01 23:06:08 1HtOBC-0006io-0a == jeffnelson@mac.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
2007-06-02 00:06:11 1HtOBC-0006io-0a == jeffnelson@mac.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
I've seen a lot of these messages in my exim main log:
R=localuser T=local_delivery defer (-52): Retry time n$
I do not know why. I can however still send/receive mail but I want to make sure there is no valid mails being filtered out or such.
I've done:
/scripts/mailperm
/scripts/eximup --force
My domains are in:
/etc/localdomains
/etc/remotedomains does not exist
WHM > EXIM config I only have this checked on:
Verify the existence of email senders.
EXIM config file:
Code:
untrusted_set_sender = *
local_from_check = false
#local_sender_retain = true
timeout_frozen_after = 2d
ignore_bounce_errors_after = 12h
domainlist rbl_blacklist = lsearch;/etc/rblblacklist
domainlist rbl_bypass = lsearch;/etc/rblbypass
hostlist rbl_whitelist = lsearch;/etc/relayhosts : partial-lsearch;/etc/rblwhitelist
message_size_limit = 20M
#log_selector = +arguments +subject
log_selector = +all
#!!# ACL that is used after the RCPT command
check_recipient:
# Exim 3 had no checking on -bs messages, so for compatibility
# we accept if the source is local SMTP (i.e. not over TCP/IP).
# We do this by testing for an empty sending host field.
accept hosts = :
# Accept bounces to lists even if callbacks or other checks would fail
warn message = X-WhitelistedRCPT-nohdrfromcallback: Yes
condition =
${if and {{match{$local_part}{(.*)-bounces+.*}}
{exists {/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/${lc:$1}/config.pck}}}
{yes}{no}}
accept condition =
${if and {{match{$local_part}{(.*)-bounces+.*}}
{exists {/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/${lc:$1}/config.pck}}}
{yes}{no}}
# Accept bounces to lists even if callbacks or other checks would fail
warn message = X-WhitelistedRCPT-nohdrfromcallback: Yes
condition =
${if and {{match{$local_part}{(.*)-bounces+.*}}
{exists {/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/${lc:$1}_${lc:$domain}/config.pck}}}
{yes}{no}}
accept condition =
${if and {{match{$local_part}{(.*)-bounces+.*}}
{exists {/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/${lc:$1}_${lc:$domain}/config.pck}}}
{yes}{no}}
#if it gets here it isn't mailman
#sender verifications are required for all messages that are not sent to lists
accept domains = +local_domains
endpass
#recipient verifications are required for all messages that are not sent to the local machine
#this was done at multiple users requests
message = "The recipient cannot be verified. Please check all recipients of this message to verify they are valid."
verify = recipient
accept domains = +relay_domains
warn message = ${perl{popbeforesmtpwarn}{$sender_host_name}}
hosts = +relay_hosts
accept hosts = +relay_hosts
warn message = ${perl{popbeforesmtpwarn}{$sender_host_address}}
condition = ${perl{checkrelayhost}{$sender_host_address}}
accept condition = ${perl{checkrelayhost}{$sender_host_address}}
accept hosts = +auth_relay_hosts
endpass
message = $sender_fullhost is currently not permitted to
relay through this server. Perhaps you
have not logged into the pop/imap server in the
last 30 minutes or do not have SMTP Authentication turned on in your email client.
authenticated = *
deny message = $sender_fullhost is currently not permitted to
relay through this server. Perhaps you
have not logged into the pop/imap server in the
last 30 minutes or do not have SMTP Authentication turned on in your email client.
#!!# ACL that is used after the DATA command
check_message:
# Enabling this will make the server non-rfc compliant
# require verify = header_sender
accept
nobody@lsearch;/etc/localdomains "${if !eq {$header_From:}{}{$header_sender:$header_From:}fai l}" Fs
That's just a copy/paste from whm exim fields.
dnsreport shows no errors for my domains either
What could be the cause of this error? Is it local or remote (out of my control)?
Getting an error specifically to sympatico ISP in Canada.
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
retry timeout exceeded
exim_mainlog shows:
T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
telnet sympatico.ca 25
Trying 206.47.72.104...
telnet: connect to address 206.47.72.104: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
Port 25 adn 53 are open in my CSF firewall (cpanel server), TCP and UDP (for 53) and TCP for 25.
sometimes my server doesn't forward emails to other accounts, and I see in log file:
Sep 25 07:38:55 s17218468 /usr/lib64/plesk-9.0/psa-pc-remote[1151]: handlers_stderr: DEFER
Sep 25 07:38:55 s17218468 /usr/lib64/plesk-9.0/psa-pc-remote[1151]: DEFER during call 'grey' handler
Sep 25 07:38:55 s17218468 /usr/lib64/plesk-9.0/psa-pc-remote[1151]: Message aborted.
If I restart the server it works.
I am getting the following error message..
R=lookuphost defer (-17): lowest numbered MX record points to local host
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This is the file content I have been using:
User-agent: Slurp
Crawl-delay: 40
User-agent: *
Disallow:
My server is being pounded with Yahoo bots, close to 500 or more at a time. They are causing my loads at various times of the day to skyrocket, crashing the mysql server, etc. They have been on my site for about 4 days now and I just dont see why that many bots are needed to crawl a single site for several days.
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Here's the full headers from my personal email. This is the exact message a client would be sent.
From HostVentrilo.com Sun Apr 20 20:38:17 2008
Return-Path: <nobody@web.teamspeakhost.com>
Authentication-Results: mta105.rog.mail.scd.yahoo.com from=hostventrilo.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 69.93.229.114 (EHLO web.teamspeakhost.com) (69.93.229.114)
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Received: from nobody by web.teamspeakhost.com with local (Exim 4.68)
(envelope-from <nobody@web.teamspeakhost.com>)
id 1JnmrB-0007AT-P3
for xxxxx@rogers.com; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:38:17 -0400
Received: from phpmailer ([67.204.23.77])
by www.hostventrilo.com with HTTP (PHPMailer);
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:38:17 -0400
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From: "HostVentrilo.com" <info@hostventrilo.com>
Subject: Ventrilo Server Information
Message-ID: <edee9a956937977bcb723593ae6938a5@www.hostventrilo.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Length: 567
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I am having a bit trouble with setting spf. I read some documents and my mind is messed up, i can't figure out what to do.
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