Windows VPS Licensing
Sep 14, 2007
I'm helping one of my clients setup some windows VPS's but we're having some serious confusion as to how the licensing works.
I've read on microsoft.com that they now are far more accepting of virtulization and allow, with a single license, anywhere from 4 to unlimited VPS installs with it.
Now, my question is: Does this count with leased licenses? Say I leased a license from my datacenter (say i did 2k3 STD) for $25/m. Would I then be allowed to install it on however many VPS's allow under MS without issue or how does that exactly work?
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Apr 12, 2008
how does Windows handle licensing on Virtual Dedicated Servers? Does SPLA licensing cost the same as a full dedicated server?
This would be a VMware server, with multiple Windows virtual servers.
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Apr 15, 2008
I'm sure this has been covered before, but during my search I didn't find much, maybe someone can point me in the right direction.
Okay, so here's how it goes...
I, and a partner, plan on purchasing a 2U server and we're going to co-locate this server in Chicago. This server will be serving a new gaming company we plan on opening. Now, my main issue is obtaining Windows for this server. I have found plenty of retail CD's with like a 5 CALs included, but that was in the $750-$1000 range, which I understand this is what Windows server really cost, but I believe I could find it cheaper.
Does anyone know the BEST, and preferably the cheapest place to buy Windows Server 2003 (Specifically Standard 64bit - R2) or even an "external" monthly license, if such exist. I am new to the entire Windows Server licensing and pricing stuff, so any information would be very much helpful.
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Apr 19, 2007
Is there any difference between lincense cost of windows 2003 server SE for virtual server and standalone physical server?
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Sep 11, 2009
I have problem locating the Licensing module which allow us to add/delete CALs/Processor licenses, where is it now in Windows 2008?
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Feb 28, 2008
if I have a dedicated server with WS2003, would I be allowed to install my own software (with license)? such as MS SQL Server - I have an MSDN subscription and multiple licenses.... would this be ok to do so?
What about Exchange Server? I have a License for that also...again, MSDN subscription
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Aug 12, 2008
I will be running Plesk.
I only need 1 user, Administrator with full Remote Desktop Connection access.
But I need to be able to serve websites using Plesk.
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May 23, 2008
I currently have a server (Xeon 1x5310, 4gb RAM, 4x500gb hdd in Raid 10) with Windows 2003. Now do to a project I'm looking at installing Windows 2008 and upgrading to 2x5310 and 16gb of RAM on my server.
I'm looking to create a virtualized test environment for development of a new web service I'm working on. What I'm looking to develop right now is 2 file servers, 3 web servers, 3 MS SQL database servers and 1 DNS server (would prefer but not sure if hardware can handle it. Virtualization would be ideal as this is very similar to what we believe will we have when we launch the service.
I have a few questions I'm hoping you might be able to answer:
1) With the upgraded hardware specs, should it be able to handle the load if I assign each virtual entity 1 core with 2gb of RAM each?
2) I would like to create each of the multiple servers in a cluster (ie cluster of webservers) as this is how it will be in production. But, I've never worked with clusters before so:
a) where can I learn about clustering windows 2008 servers?
b) is this possible to do in a virtualized environment?
3) How does MS work the licensing? I want to have each server running Windows 2008 and 2-3 of them running SQL Server 2005.
a) Do they charge extra for each virtualized server?
b) Does this mean I have to purchase 3 complete copies of SQL Server or is there a way I can pay a low license fee for use in a non-commercial, non-production environment?
4) Does anyone see any problems with this setup or have any suggestions for me?
* I do have money available to spend on a good solution, so if you have suggestions that cost please let me know. I just thought virtualization would be the way to go as the project will be in development for at least a year with no public access.
** I realize that Hyper-V hasn't been released yet (that I know of) so information on it might be limited
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Oct 7, 2009
Which VmWare product allows me officially to use it for VPS hosting business (ESXi does not allow that)? Do you have a link to document where they specifically authorize use of their software to make and sell VPS? Are there any legal limitations? What about vSphere standard?
What about Xen, what are limitations of free version? Which payed version is best for VPS hosting, are there any legal limitations?
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Jul 9, 2008
i was thinking about partitioning my servers into a number of VPSs to sell.
in regard to offering cPanel, i see that licensing is $425 a pop. is there any way of registering for multiple servers at a low cost.
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Nov 22, 2008
if anyone has an idea of which dedicated provider has the most reasonable prices when it comes to Virtuozzo licensing. I have looked at several and it seems prices vary.
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May 13, 2007
Whats the most cost effective method of purchaseing cpanel licenses for colocated servers?
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May 16, 2007
From the posts in this forum it would appear that a number of forumites are colocation service providers and web hosters that use Cisco gear.
I was reviewing the Cisco End User License Agreement that was included in the router box. Under the General Limitations section, "Customer shall have no right, and Customer specifically agrees not to:", item (iv) states, "use or permit the Software to be used to perform services for third parties, whether on a service bureau basis or time sharing basis or otherwise, without the express written authorization of Cisco".
Does this mean that a service provider is required to acquire
a separate license similar to the Microsoft Service provider license?
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Aug 3, 2007
My understanding is that the IOS software running in most of their products is non-transferable. So clearly this prevents a user from receiving updates if they purchase used hardware (i.e. ebay). However, isn't it possible to purchase an IOS software license from Cisco for any of their supported product?
Their web site is a mess! I've spent, literally, hours on their site trying to figure out how to purchase such a license, or how to purchase a service plan that might entitle me to IOS updates.
And how does "SMARTnet" fit into this puzzle? Do I need a SMARTnet contract to download maintenance updates, even for *new* hardware that I've purchased?
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Apr 30, 2009
Can anyone give me some insight on how VPS licensing works with SPLA? According to my reseller, each VPS needs its own standalone license which seem to differ with what I read somewhere about Microsoft Server 2008 allowing up to 8 virtual stances with 1 license or something like that.
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Sep 11, 2009
Heads Up.
Forget everything you've learned about Windows Server "authenticated" and "unauthenticated" licensing for your monthly SPLA reports. The game has completely changed, and NOT for the better.
Microsoft has changed to "outsourcer" and "non-outsourcer" licensing instead.
Quoting Microsoft:
Quote:
"Outsourcing is an application or service that a service provider manages for their customer. For purposes of this definition, the managed application or service is:
(a) Used by its customer's employees, contractors, agents, or vendors
(b) Not the service provider's intellectual property
I contacted MS directly for clarification on how this applies to webhosting. The response was, if the service provider is (and I quote), "simply managing the infrastructure layer and not managing anything else... in other words just keeping the lights on", that is non-outsourced.
If you are providing any software or management of the environment, even something as simple as Windows Updates or other basic management tasks on the server-- which is the case, for example, if you are running a shared webserver, then it is "outsourced".
Your email server is providing a service that is considered an outsourced service, and you must report (and pay for) an "outsourced" license for that server.
And here is the bad news.
Under the old terms, the Datacenter edition of Windows Server (which allows unlimited VMs at no additional charge on the machine where the license is assigned) cost just under $50/month.
The new "outsourcer" Datacenter license is nearly $250/mo. Yes, you read that right, a whopping 400% monthly license fee increase for Datacenter edition.
A single copy of Windows Server Standard edition is over $75/mo. when used in the outsourcing role.
Other pricing and terms have changed as well, so grab a copy of the new SPUR and READ it. All it takes is a moment of uncertainty to put you wildly out of compliance under this new layer of insanity.
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Nov 3, 2009
Microsoft said this about Microsoft Licensing for Virtualization
Windows Server 2008 Datacenter
Run any number of software instances in physical and virtual operating system environments on a server.
Now,I have some questions:
1)Is this method of licensing just for hyper-v or we can use it on vmware ESXi or Xen?
2)How we can use Microsoft Volume Licensing on Vmware ESXi and Xen?
3)What is the best solution for windows virtualization?(vmware esxi or hyper-v or xen)
4)what is difference between xen and xenserver?
5)which control panels we can use for hyper-v,vmware ESXi and xenserver?
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Jul 13, 2008
where can I find cheapest virtuozzo licensing or even dedicated server with virtuozzo licensing. Budget is $300/mo. Bandwidth needed at least 10tb/mo.
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Nov 17, 2008
Our local authority is looking into using MySQL database for some internal applications and possibly our website.
Do we need a commercial or enterprise license for this particular use or can we use a free version?
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Jul 26, 2008
so let's get this all hashed out... it'll be interesting to see how people handle various situations.
Before responding, let's keep this thread signature free.
I recently came across an issue where a customer wanted to bring their own Microsoft products/licenses to the table. Got a few questions for the other providers out there... this really needs to be hashed out.
Microsoft is very strict when it comes to enforcing their license policies, we all know this much.
So... when a customer wants to install their own software, what do people do to help ensure that whatever agreement you have with your upstream provider or Microsoft isn't in voliation by allowing someone to bring their own licenses?
What steps do you take to ensure validity of said licenses?
How do you define, much less enforce, these guidelines?
What role, if any, should a provider play in doing their part to help stem illicit license abuse?
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Jul 10, 2008
where can I find cheapest virtuozzo licensing for 100 vps?
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Mar 21, 2007
I bought Windows Vista Ultimate OEM and installed it on the physical machine, can I install Virtual Server 2005 and install the ultimate OEM version again on the VIRTUAL server 2005??
I run MySql but I hate to run it on the physical machine, want to run on a virtual machine.
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Apr 17, 2015
I've asked sales a few times but they don't seem to know...what counts as a "website?" In PPA as a test we set up two subscriptions and one mail-only secondary domain on one of them. The Services/Websites tab lists all three, but only two are marked as Website under Hosting Type while the third is marked No Hosting. Does that count as two websites for license purposes, or three?
I'm trying to plan for multiple domains, subdomains, etc.
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Oct 2, 2008
I was actually curious about this since Windows 2008 version came out.
What is the difference between Windows media services on Windows 2003 and Windows 2008?
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Nov 17, 2008
Any company rent Windows Server 2003 Web Edition ?
SPLA and External licenses ?
With Micfrosoft need pay 2,000$
I wait your answerds.
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May 26, 2009
With Windows 2003 server, there are comprehensive lists of what you need to do to secure the server before use. For Windows 2008, I wonder is there such a list? Or is it true as what I heard from Microsoft that it is already secured out of the box?
Anyone has any resources on the hardening or preparation of 2008 for server hosting uses?
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Nov 11, 2014
FTPS is not working after upgrade from plesk 11. On plesk 11 windows and linux worked fine, after upgrade my windows server, it stopped working.
Code:
PS C:Windowssystem32> & "C:Program Files (x86)ParallelsPleskadmininpmm-ras.exe" --check-repository --dump-storage=ftps://****:****@***.***.***.***:21 --debug --verbose
[2014-11-11 21:16:12.981| 4688] INFO: pmm-ras started : "C:Program Files (x86)ParallelsPleskadmininpmm-ras.exe" --check-repository "--dump-storage=ftps://****:****@***.***.***.***:21" --debug --verbose
[2014-11-11 21:16:12.997| 4688] INFO: Repository 'ftps://***.***.***.***:21': Initializing...
[code]....
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May 8, 2008
I'm making a reasonably uninformed comparison here. Since Windows Vista is noted to be more resource intensive and slower than Win XP, are we right in assuming that Windows 2008 is slower than Windows 2003?
For instance, with two boxes with an identical hardware setup but the two different server OSes, will the same application like, say MySQL run slower on the Win 2008 machine?
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Dec 10, 2008
There seem to be strong forum rules in place about the kinds of posts that hosters can make.
But from my perspective it is somehow leaving a large gap in useful information I would like to know that I can't quite put my finger on right now.
So I would like to get responses from Windows hosters in this thread without violating any forum spam guidelines and I sure hope I'm not wasting my time here with this concept but here goes...
So, the topic:
Ultimately, the thing Windows Web Hosters are providing is the delivery of information that has been constructed by developers using program code they have assembled using a large array of mostly .NET technology.
The reason the Hoster is providing Windows hosting is that a sufficiently large enough population of Web Developers have been attracted to some aspect of the Windows technology stack.
And there is certainly lots of innovative and interesting technology that attracts developers to focus on .NET in just the same way that there is also interesting technology in the Linux world.
So here's the problem. It appears as if the Windows hosting companies with the odd exception have almost no interest in Windows and .NET technology.
But if they actually did have such an interest, it is not clear how they would communicate it for discussion here at WHT because of the spam rules and of course trying to communicate anything at all about hosting on the general internet is just swamped by spam. The noise level is just insane!
So I am hoping that such a discussion can take place in this thread by asking some very specific questions:
1. What interesting Microsoft technology have you researched, tested or played with lately?
2. What programs or scripts have you personally developed lately to investigate .NET 3.5 features?
3. What do you think of XBAP delivery from the net and why do you think it hasn't caught on in a larger way since it sure delivers a richer client experience than Flash or even Silverlight.
4. What do you think of Azure and will Microsoft let hosters be part of the cloud anytime soon? Can you think of useful or interesting Azure mashups from a hosting perspective?
5. Have you tried any totally silly and insane things with the .NET runtime inside of SQL Server 2005/2008 that would give your DB guys a heart attack?
6. Have you tried out the Google systems where you give your employees 20% of company time to play around with personal projects like this?
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Aug 11, 2014
Latest Update 12.0.18 Update 12 appears to have removed PHP 5.4 and PHP 5.5 from my dropdown under hosting settings.
The only PHP that is left is PHP 5.3
Yet, the updates and upgrades page still lists PHP 5.4 and PHP 5.5 as installed.
Also PHP is still working on the virtual websites that were previously enabled with either 5.4 or 5.5, but not able to change using the Plesk Panel.
Given that Parallels has broken the Panel in that latest automatic update I'd hope it can be resolved ASAP.
I can't even find any references in the KB about Plesk 12 on Windows regarding PHP versions
I can even give feedback about the broken patch as every feedback channel requires paid support.
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Jan 22, 2014
I have faced the following ftp backup error in windows plesk 11.5.30
Transport error: unable to send directory to repository: Transport error: unable to put local file C:Program Files (x86)ParallelsPleskPrivateTemp/repo_transport_tmp_01cf171bcedd7710ackup_1401220130.zip to backup_1401220130.zip: Curl error: Failure when receiving data from the peer
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