VmWare And Xen Licensing
Oct 7, 2009
Which VmWare product allows me officially to use it for VPS hosting business (ESXi does not allow that)? Do you have a link to document where they specifically authorize use of their software to make and sell VPS? Are there any legal limitations? What about vSphere standard?
What about Xen, what are limitations of free version? Which payed version is best for VPS hosting, are there any legal limitations?
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Jul 9, 2008
i was thinking about partitioning my servers into a number of VPSs to sell.
in regard to offering cPanel, i see that licensing is $425 a pop. is there any way of registering for multiple servers at a low cost.
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Apr 12, 2008
how does Windows handle licensing on Virtual Dedicated Servers? Does SPLA licensing cost the same as a full dedicated server?
This would be a VMware server, with multiple Windows virtual servers.
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Apr 15, 2008
I'm sure this has been covered before, but during my search I didn't find much, maybe someone can point me in the right direction.
Okay, so here's how it goes...
I, and a partner, plan on purchasing a 2U server and we're going to co-locate this server in Chicago. This server will be serving a new gaming company we plan on opening. Now, my main issue is obtaining Windows for this server. I have found plenty of retail CD's with like a 5 CALs included, but that was in the $750-$1000 range, which I understand this is what Windows server really cost, but I believe I could find it cheaper.
Does anyone know the BEST, and preferably the cheapest place to buy Windows Server 2003 (Specifically Standard 64bit - R2) or even an "external" monthly license, if such exist. I am new to the entire Windows Server licensing and pricing stuff, so any information would be very much helpful.
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Nov 22, 2008
if anyone has an idea of which dedicated provider has the most reasonable prices when it comes to Virtuozzo licensing. I have looked at several and it seems prices vary.
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Apr 19, 2007
Is there any difference between lincense cost of windows 2003 server SE for virtual server and standalone physical server?
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Sep 14, 2007
I'm helping one of my clients setup some windows VPS's but we're having some serious confusion as to how the licensing works.
I've read on microsoft.com that they now are far more accepting of virtulization and allow, with a single license, anywhere from 4 to unlimited VPS installs with it.
Now, my question is: Does this count with leased licenses? Say I leased a license from my datacenter (say i did 2k3 STD) for $25/m. Would I then be allowed to install it on however many VPS's allow under MS without issue or how does that exactly work?
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May 13, 2007
Whats the most cost effective method of purchaseing cpanel licenses for colocated servers?
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May 16, 2007
From the posts in this forum it would appear that a number of forumites are colocation service providers and web hosters that use Cisco gear.
I was reviewing the Cisco End User License Agreement that was included in the router box. Under the General Limitations section, "Customer shall have no right, and Customer specifically agrees not to:", item (iv) states, "use or permit the Software to be used to perform services for third parties, whether on a service bureau basis or time sharing basis or otherwise, without the express written authorization of Cisco".
Does this mean that a service provider is required to acquire
a separate license similar to the Microsoft Service provider license?
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Aug 3, 2007
My understanding is that the IOS software running in most of their products is non-transferable. So clearly this prevents a user from receiving updates if they purchase used hardware (i.e. ebay). However, isn't it possible to purchase an IOS software license from Cisco for any of their supported product?
Their web site is a mess! I've spent, literally, hours on their site trying to figure out how to purchase such a license, or how to purchase a service plan that might entitle me to IOS updates.
And how does "SMARTnet" fit into this puzzle? Do I need a SMARTnet contract to download maintenance updates, even for *new* hardware that I've purchased?
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Sep 11, 2009
I have problem locating the Licensing module which allow us to add/delete CALs/Processor licenses, where is it now in Windows 2008?
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Apr 30, 2009
Can anyone give me some insight on how VPS licensing works with SPLA? According to my reseller, each VPS needs its own standalone license which seem to differ with what I read somewhere about Microsoft Server 2008 allowing up to 8 virtual stances with 1 license or something like that.
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Sep 11, 2009
Heads Up.
Forget everything you've learned about Windows Server "authenticated" and "unauthenticated" licensing for your monthly SPLA reports. The game has completely changed, and NOT for the better.
Microsoft has changed to "outsourcer" and "non-outsourcer" licensing instead.
Quoting Microsoft:
Quote:
"Outsourcing is an application or service that a service provider manages for their customer. For purposes of this definition, the managed application or service is:
(a) Used by its customer's employees, contractors, agents, or vendors
(b) Not the service provider's intellectual property
I contacted MS directly for clarification on how this applies to webhosting. The response was, if the service provider is (and I quote), "simply managing the infrastructure layer and not managing anything else... in other words just keeping the lights on", that is non-outsourced.
If you are providing any software or management of the environment, even something as simple as Windows Updates or other basic management tasks on the server-- which is the case, for example, if you are running a shared webserver, then it is "outsourced".
Your email server is providing a service that is considered an outsourced service, and you must report (and pay for) an "outsourced" license for that server.
And here is the bad news.
Under the old terms, the Datacenter edition of Windows Server (which allows unlimited VMs at no additional charge on the machine where the license is assigned) cost just under $50/month.
The new "outsourcer" Datacenter license is nearly $250/mo. Yes, you read that right, a whopping 400% monthly license fee increase for Datacenter edition.
A single copy of Windows Server Standard edition is over $75/mo. when used in the outsourcing role.
Other pricing and terms have changed as well, so grab a copy of the new SPUR and READ it. All it takes is a moment of uncertainty to put you wildly out of compliance under this new layer of insanity.
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Nov 3, 2009
Microsoft said this about Microsoft Licensing for Virtualization
Windows Server 2008 Datacenter
Run any number of software instances in physical and virtual operating system environments on a server.
Now,I have some questions:
1)Is this method of licensing just for hyper-v or we can use it on vmware ESXi or Xen?
2)How we can use Microsoft Volume Licensing on Vmware ESXi and Xen?
3)What is the best solution for windows virtualization?(vmware esxi or hyper-v or xen)
4)what is difference between xen and xenserver?
5)which control panels we can use for hyper-v,vmware ESXi and xenserver?
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Jul 13, 2008
where can I find cheapest virtuozzo licensing or even dedicated server with virtuozzo licensing. Budget is $300/mo. Bandwidth needed at least 10tb/mo.
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Nov 17, 2008
Our local authority is looking into using MySQL database for some internal applications and possibly our website.
Do we need a commercial or enterprise license for this particular use or can we use a free version?
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Jul 26, 2008
so let's get this all hashed out... it'll be interesting to see how people handle various situations.
Before responding, let's keep this thread signature free.
I recently came across an issue where a customer wanted to bring their own Microsoft products/licenses to the table. Got a few questions for the other providers out there... this really needs to be hashed out.
Microsoft is very strict when it comes to enforcing their license policies, we all know this much.
So... when a customer wants to install their own software, what do people do to help ensure that whatever agreement you have with your upstream provider or Microsoft isn't in voliation by allowing someone to bring their own licenses?
What steps do you take to ensure validity of said licenses?
How do you define, much less enforce, these guidelines?
What role, if any, should a provider play in doing their part to help stem illicit license abuse?
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Jul 10, 2008
where can I find cheapest virtuozzo licensing for 100 vps?
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Mar 21, 2007
I bought Windows Vista Ultimate OEM and installed it on the physical machine, can I install Virtual Server 2005 and install the ultimate OEM version again on the VIRTUAL server 2005??
I run MySql but I hate to run it on the physical machine, want to run on a virtual machine.
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Feb 28, 2008
if I have a dedicated server with WS2003, would I be allowed to install my own software (with license)? such as MS SQL Server - I have an MSDN subscription and multiple licenses.... would this be ok to do so?
What about Exchange Server? I have a License for that also...again, MSDN subscription
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Aug 12, 2008
I will be running Plesk.
I only need 1 user, Administrator with full Remote Desktop Connection access.
But I need to be able to serve websites using Plesk.
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May 23, 2008
I currently have a server (Xeon 1x5310, 4gb RAM, 4x500gb hdd in Raid 10) with Windows 2003. Now do to a project I'm looking at installing Windows 2008 and upgrading to 2x5310 and 16gb of RAM on my server.
I'm looking to create a virtualized test environment for development of a new web service I'm working on. What I'm looking to develop right now is 2 file servers, 3 web servers, 3 MS SQL database servers and 1 DNS server (would prefer but not sure if hardware can handle it. Virtualization would be ideal as this is very similar to what we believe will we have when we launch the service.
I have a few questions I'm hoping you might be able to answer:
1) With the upgraded hardware specs, should it be able to handle the load if I assign each virtual entity 1 core with 2gb of RAM each?
2) I would like to create each of the multiple servers in a cluster (ie cluster of webservers) as this is how it will be in production. But, I've never worked with clusters before so:
a) where can I learn about clustering windows 2008 servers?
b) is this possible to do in a virtualized environment?
3) How does MS work the licensing? I want to have each server running Windows 2008 and 2-3 of them running SQL Server 2005.
a) Do they charge extra for each virtualized server?
b) Does this mean I have to purchase 3 complete copies of SQL Server or is there a way I can pay a low license fee for use in a non-commercial, non-production environment?
4) Does anyone see any problems with this setup or have any suggestions for me?
* I do have money available to spend on a good solution, so if you have suggestions that cost please let me know. I just thought virtualization would be the way to go as the project will be in development for at least a year with no public access.
** I realize that Hyper-V hasn't been released yet (that I know of) so information on it might be limited
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Apr 17, 2015
I've asked sales a few times but they don't seem to know...what counts as a "website?" In PPA as a test we set up two subscriptions and one mail-only secondary domain on one of them. The Services/Websites tab lists all three, but only two are marked as Website under Hosting Type while the third is marked No Hosting. Does that count as two websites for license purposes, or three?
I'm trying to plan for multiple domains, subdomains, etc.
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May 2, 2008
I am going to be sending a 2U server in for colocation. It will be running CentOS 5 64bit at the core and be utilizing VMware for virtual machines.
If I get say 8 ( 5 usable ) IPs as apart of my colocation plan, how can I delegate which IPs goto which virtual machine?
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Jan 17, 2009
my friend install VMware on his server to run vps, it looks likely interesting, do you use VMware to offer vps?
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Jul 5, 2009
which is better ? for create windows and linux VPS!
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Nov 3, 2006
Does anyone here use VMware server on a dedicated server to run Windows or other OS? And in terms of IP address how would this work? Do you need to set the VM as being NATed, or does it have it's own external IP? In terms of performance on a typical 100$-200$/mo dedicated server, how good is it? All these factors depend on a lot of things and I realize that, though. (what apps run, etc)
And do server providers even allow to install something like this? I've never leased a dedicated server before but I'm thinking of getting a linux one, but also running a windows VM for a RunUO server, and unfortunately that only runs in windows. I want a linux server as I prefer LAMP for hosting, and I'd try to get a few clients on the server just so I can pay it off monthly. Also Linux servers are generally cheaper monthly and I like the idea of using SSH tunnels rather then straight RDP, which gives me chills just thinking of, from a security perspective.
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Aug 18, 2009
Not to start a flamewar, but I was curious about real world scenarios, and peoples experience with and recommendations for either.
I have been asked to plan out a smallish virtualization environment (10-12 Dell hosts, iSCSI Equalogic backend), and when reviewing the cost of going with VMWare over Citrix, I can't seem to justify the costs. I figure since Amazon runs on Xen, it must be pretty decent, but am I missing something?
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Apr 13, 2008
I'm curious if there are any providers out there providing VMWare hosting per instance? Where I could just upload a VM and pay to host that VM?
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Jul 7, 2009
we have problem with increase HDD for VPS in vmware
when i increase HDD show this error:
"Reconfigure Virtual Machine" failed to complete OK
If these problems persist, please contact your system administrator.
DetailsOperation failed because file already exists.
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Apr 6, 2009
Does anyone use vmware to host vps?
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