National Cloud, Colocation, And DC Real Estate Pricing, Etc. Seminar
Oct 25, 2009
I've worked with quite a few clients, and seen many posts with WHT, related to understanding service provider / site selection and total cost of ownership analysis. Are you familiar with the power-based TCO model?
We've produced some upcoming events to help...I hope you will come out for these seminars and cocktail networking hour: ...
I noticed some cloud computing service providers, like, amazon, gogrid, etc. are all based on XEN server, is there any provider offers cloud computing on real dedicated server?
another question is, anyone knows the difference between traditional cluster and cloud computing. I did not see big difference based on their own description.
I'm really just asking this out of interest and please pardon my ignorance. (I don't actually need a provider or anything now)
I've been looking around at pricing for colocation, and from what I've found, they start at around US$90/month.
From what I can tell, a colo provider basically offers you some rack space, a power port and of course, the internet line (maybe a few extra cables and such). What I don't get is that, looking at pricing for dedicated servers, they also seem to start at around US$90/month.
But with a dedicated server, aren't you paying for the rack space, the power, the internet _and_ an entire server? (BTW, I'm comparing similar features, that is, the colo provider is offering 1TB transfer per month, and so is the dedicated hosting provider). So why is colo costing around the same price as dedicated hosting? Is this usually the case, or is my comparison across multiple providers just faulty?
does mod_cache use real disk space or real memory to locate "cache"? I mean if i use mod_cache, does my vps/server will use more disk space/memory?
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mod_cache implements an RFC 2616 compliant HTTP content cache that can be used to cache either local or proxied content. mod_cache requires the services of one or more storage management modules. Two storage management modules are included in the base Apache distribution:
My contract is up for one of my data centers and I just got hit with a new price increase per AMP! From $15/AMP to $23/AMP? Am I nuts or is this price VERY high? The data center is on long island. What is everyone else seeing?
I'm going to start offering a KVMoIP service for my customers and am trying to get ideas on the pricing. What do y'all think about it? I know most places that I know about charge a setup + hourly fee, well, I like to be just a little bit better, so let's see what y'all have to say.
I am in the UK looking for web hosting (possible a vps) with at least 6GB storage. I am confused why there is such a difference in price between companies offers.
E.g Kuala and Supanames are about £420 per year for a basic vps.
If i go to the EUKhost.com website they offer a vps for £240.
Is it because the first 2 companies offer a better service or are they just expensive, or are they set at a normal price and the EUKhost is cheap because it is not very good?
Any advice gratefully received. Also if anyone has had any experience with any of these companies please share it.
Or if you know if a reasonably priced VPS - where you KNOW the service is good please tell me about it.
I am working with one of the new DCs that we deal with to negotiate some colo pricing and setups. They are not huge on colo, in fact they do very little of it. Hard to believe out of about 1200 servers in their DC, their colo section will not even fill 2 to 3 racks.
They do not even have a setup to price based on per Mbps, I'm sure they know about where they need to be if they dig into it, but they want me to work up a proposal based on what I need (they are working hard to work with me and keep our business).
Their network is fine, nothing outstanding but plenty strong for our needs.
They use mostly Time Warner and Level 3. I think I can even setup with them to provide my own rack, which I prefer to do since it would keep only our servers in the rack.
My question is, from those who have plenty experience on different levels at different Mbps pricing, what is average and reasonable considering those 2 carriers? If I provide a rack, they will provide power, UPS, etc. Aside from that, I need advice on what to expect on the pricing of the bandwidth.
I may also end up using my own Cisco switch in the rack, I haven't cleared that up yet. If I start off @ 10 Mbps in the rack, and work up, about where should this be on BW pricing?
Does Level3 charge the same price per rack at every one of their datacenters, or is it dependent on the location? For example, how much would a rack in the Houston datacenter cost compared to the Dallas datacenter? Please no sales people contact me I am just asking to do some research.
Anyone have a ball park figure of what to expect $/MB? on a 100 or 200 megabit Commit From XO in the Tampa/FL market. Also other than Cogent Who else has aggressive pricing at the same commit level as above in the Tampa Market?
We're doing some research trying to determine what people would consider to be average, good, great and excellent colo pricing for full rack, cage square footage price and power per amp pricing. We're not looking for comparisons of other offers but rather what people's real pricing opinions are for this type of service. Service would be in a major market and well connected facility with all major carriers available.
Bandwidth pricing per Mbps can be included but doesn't need to be if this would be carrier neutral colo.
I've been happily hosted in Equinix Ashburn for over a year now, so I haven't been looking into price changes over the past months. However, my colo provider suddenly decided to raise prices by 20% on me, saying that space and bandwidth has become scarce over the past year and their own cost went up by 75%. So they are asking me to lock the new hiked price by signing a new contract, otherwise I won't be able to get such offer from them or any other provider in that location.
Before signing anything, I'm trying to get a feel of the current prices. I see a lot of ads in here for same bw and space, but I'm sure there are variations in the level of service they provide, depending on the colo company, location, bw providers, package type, etc... So, just as crude estimate, can you please tell in general whether prices/costs has went up or down or stayed the same since last year, and by how much?
And if someone has experience with Equinix/Ashburn, what would be a reasonable price for a dedicated 100Mbps/4U colocation with a quality bandwidth provider?
I just read that online ad revenue is expected to drop *dramatically* in 2009 as a result of budget cuts, much more careful spending as well as companies who still have significant budgets to spend expecting large discounts. As a company that is a "publisher" (we put other people's ads on our sites) this can potentially make a big a difference to us.
I'm wondering how bandwidth pricing is going change the coming year.
We're very much pushed to sign a contract (before 2008 ends) with a *true* tier-1 provider (not Cogent, hint hint) for a multiple gigabit, 12 month commit at under $5 a meg. That's very attractive to us but I can't help but wonder what's going to happen in 2009...
Best of luck to everyone in 2009, it's shaping up to be a challenging year to many.
I have been reviewing online price quotes for colo hosting and dedicated server hosting. To me, common sense would be that it would be less expensive to get a cheapo used server off of ebay and have it colocated. But what I am seeing is many instances where it would would actually be less expensive per month to rent a dedicated server (which might even be a better server) - including in some cases from the very same companies that offer the colo services. Is what I am seeing typical - and, if so, why is this the case? Is there an assumption that a colo customer will use more bandwidth than a typical dedicated server customer? Is the cost of servicing a colo customer significantly greater than that of a dedicated server customer?
servers for a freehosting project and came across a good quote on some dual quad core amds for $320 a month. Is this about right? I don't want to give the exact location away as this was a custom quote but it's located in chicago. The network is Internap FCP optimized with internap, level3, and comcast.
telling me about your offerings, or trying to convince me about out of area datacenters because of the risk of terrorism, cost, or alien invasion, I'm not seriously shopping around, just doing a bit of initial research.
With that disclaimer, what's a rough expectation of pricing for a NYC, carrier neutral datacenter for 1 cabinet with 60 amps of 110v? Preferrably somewhere that Internap is available.
I have been unable to talk to dotxm sales but after looking at there site it says they have been open since 2000 but there domain is registered in 2009. and there using a free template which worries me slightly if there using free templates after 9 years of buisness. So after not being able to contact sales or tech support has anyone used them or have reviews on them?
My company has 20+ clients ranging from small single-person businesses to medium-sized corporations. I've been hoping to eventually consolidate them under one hosting company.
Despite bad things I'd read, I THOUGHT I'd found a good home in Bluehost. Until yesterday. I'll leave out the story as it would be a short novel, but I'll just say that they proved to me that they are not a suitable host for an important corporate client, nor do they have any desire to be.
It's obvious to me that I need to stop looking at these discount hosting companies. But while my larger clients may be happy to pay a decent amount of money for reliable service and server admins who are willing to tweak a server setting for them on occasion, I also need to be able to provide a reliable host for my smaller clients who may be used to paying $6.95/month for hosting and don't want to go too much higher than that.
I see ad after ad for hosting companies, but that tells me nothing about how good a host really is. Asking on forums, searching the internet, you'll find everything from how great a host is to how they're the worst host on the internet. But you all know this.
Years back when I was first searching for hosting, I found a site that tracked hundreds of hosts and compared their pricing, services, support, uptime, etc. Are there any reputable sites like that these days?
Ideally, I'd like to find a host that offers it all - packages suitable for everything from small clients with tight budgets to larger corporations willing to spend what it takes for good service. I need extremely reliable hosting with tech support who will do whatever it takes to quickly solve problems and keep sites working properly. (Edited to add: 24 hour phone support is an absolute requirement, and 24 hour chat support is highly preferred along with that.) Does such a creature exist? If not, I'd be happy with one GOOD discount host and one GOOD corporate host. If there are any hosts out there who are well-known for their excellent service, I sure haven't found them. I'm very much open to suggestions.
I always tell my clients that my job isn't finished until they are 100% happy with the service I give them, and I want to be able to provide them with hosting where they will be treated just as well.
Surely, if I'm doing this question, I don't need the cloud, but as all the people are talking about it, I think in it.
We host simple websites, with about 10GB/bandwicht/month as much usage. Actually we have 5 low budget dedicated servers instead to have 1 power server with all in, with that we distribute the possibilities of hardware fails.
We don't have any VPS, I personally prefer host in a physical server, we can put the 5 servers in 5 VPS into one big server, but if HD fails, all goes down.
So, now with cloud, I think it's the same that VPS, hardware could fails as always, and the cloud can complicate the resolution of a problem, so my final question, it's cloud for me? anything I'm missing?
Thanks as always for your replies! Anyway, it's nice to have a new technologie in the table to discuss about it!
When creating cloud hosting based-on VPS, I assume each VPS added will need to be on different machines? Which one will have better performance in this case
- 1VPS with 2GB RAM, 1GHz CPU - 2VPS with 1GB RAM and 512MHz CPU each. 2 VPS is setup on the same server. One runs Apache, one runs mySQL.