Responsibility For PDUs : Colo Provider Or Customer
Nov 27, 2007
moving to a new colo provider, at Equinix in Ashburn. We are looking to lease a full cabinet of space.
More than one quote we have received includes a charge for us to buy the PDUs. The pricing for the PDUs seems to be market-rate, and the PDUs seem to be good quality based on what I've read here (usually APC).
My question is: Is this now standard practice that the customer owns the PDUs? Our needs are not special in any way -- just 2 PDUs with 20-25 ports on each.
I don't mind paying for the PDUs, but my concern is the responsibility. I would prefer that we are not responsible for the PDUs. What if one of them fails? I guess we'd be down potentially for a few days while a new PDU is purchased. Meanwhile, if the PDU was not our responsiblity, the colo provider would probably have some spares on-hand and we'd be up and running in a matter of an hour or less.
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Aug 9, 2007
2 U for daily data backup iwith 3mg internet bandwidth in phoenix. The primary colo is in San Jose.
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Apr 16, 2008
In short, we've tried for months to contact a client and he's basically fallen off the face of the earth. Emails were originally received by his mail server, but now they bounce. His phone used to ring and we could leave voicemails, but now it goes straight to voice mail. I have a weird hunch he passed away or went to prison or something. We haven't heard from him in about 45 days.
He has pretty expensive hardware that any reasonable person would want back, but it's eating up a lot of space on the rack considering it's unpaid for.
So here's my question to other providers: When a colocation customer is completely unreachable (phone, email, etc) and way past due, what do you do with their hardware?
And customers: what would you want done with your hardware?
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May 11, 2007
Not that this is my case, but I would like to know what happens when a co-location provider goes belly up and does not have more service in the data center.
It is not the data-center itself, only the colo provider in that data-center.
What happens if the servers have a payed contract for a year with time left on the DC and what happens when the payment is made monthly.
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Dec 1, 2007
i'm interested in putting two servers (possibly scale up for more) in the South Bay (i.e. San Jose, Fremont, etc.) colocation facitity. Any suggestion on the providers would be greatly appreciated. and what to look for.
i only know Hurricane Electric (and Savvis?).
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May 21, 2007
One of the sites I run is a forum with a political component, and 4-5 times over the last week we've been seeing DoS attacks. They're not terribly sophisticated -- generally 1-3 compromised servers throwing packets my way -- but they're enough to clog my pipes and take my sites down.
What I'd like to do is put a new server up at a data center that's D(D)oS aware that can hopefully respond to these attacks automatically. My current provider has been giving solid support, but the best they can do is null route the affected IP, rather than filtering the incoming attack.
Can y'all name a few providers I should look into? Right now I'm just looking to move 1 box (or maybe a box and a firewall depending on the setup).
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Jun 12, 2007
good colo provider..
I dont want to pay the earth though!
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Jul 8, 2008
I pay someone to host my IIS/MS_SQL website.
If he doesnt have a legit can I get trouble?
Whos responsibility is it ultimately?
Is there a link online that refers to the law?
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Jun 4, 2009
Lets say you're a customer looking for web hosting, but do have technical experience - you know, you develop your own websites, you've had experience in this sort of thing before.
What if you came across a provider who seemed to offer a good service, they're high quality, they can host your website on their brilliant setup etc... but they do not provide any e-mail accounts with your hosting?
We're developing our own shared hosting setup, our own control panel too. Regardless of the control panel though, we wouldn't feel comfortable hosting peoples e-mail. We have plenty of experience in every other aspect of general shared hosting - but not looking after e-mail accounts nor the associated software.
To be honest I don't think that many shared hosting providers truely handle e-mail properly, and that job should really be left to the professionals.
We could of course guide customers or potential customers on why we won't offer e-mail accounts (i.e. not wanting to offer something we know we can't provide to a high enough standard) and instruct them on how to setup e-mail with another provider (such as Google, who will do this for free with limitations).
The alternative to the above is that we mask in a third party to look after e-mail, i.e. resell someone elses e-mail services as part of our hosting packages. The third party would require API access to setup/remove accounts..
What do you think? Are we just acting stupid trying to provide web hosting without e-mail hosting included? I noticed a while back Dreamhost encouraged their customers to use an alternative e-mail provider!
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Nov 9, 2009
I have had bad experiences with zero-U PDUs (i have only tried the APC ones). They keep getting in the way of equipment when you put them in the back of the cabinet .... I usually end up just having them standing up in the back of the cabinet and zip tie them to something so they dont fall down.
Am I just stupid and using these wrong or do other people have this issue? if you have an extra long server that sits out the back it bumps into the PDU so you got to nestle the PDUs into a corner of the cabinet.
What PDUs is everything using in various co-los? I might go with the 2U rack PDUs but with the need for 2 of them that is 4U wasted (and also since they are not very long you need some long cable runs for all of the equipment to plug into them)..
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May 23, 2008
Can anyone recommend, or know of, a metered PDU that has integrated reboot functions?(e.g. LAN access to turn on/off outlet.)
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Dec 16, 2007
Please give me the difference. Colo in carrier hotel, we can choose our preferred network provider, but should we do that if we cannot have our own tech in datacenter? How about the supporting service from carrier hotel? Just general question, cause I dont address exactly which facility.
And the second would be more expensive? Saying the same number of rack, amount of bandwidth... Who is providing IP addresses then?
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Jan 17, 2007
I have a consulting customer using 172.16.253/24 as public addresses for their servers.
I was under the impression 172./8 was IANA reserved space not for public use.
Assuming I am not, what is wrong with this scenario, besides the fact that they _should_ not use that IP space as public ips for their servers?
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Jun 24, 2009
My question is targeted towards providers who sell unmetered bandwidth servers. Like out of 100 customers who have unmetered 10Mbps how many would actually consume full 10meg , lets keep it to peak time for now.
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Jan 20, 2009
I've been using shared hosting for some years now but lately found my sites were getting more and more sluggish, so I started looking around for a new host. Problem is, who do you choose? And what kind of service? I wanted something better than shared hosting but didn't fancy the complexities of VPS.
After some research I signed up for MDDhosting.com's basic Semi-Dedicated plan for one month to test them out. If it didn't work out I'd only be out twenty bucks
The set-up was fast - I was transferring my test sites within minutes of receiving their (five) instant welcome emails. When I had problems with the transfer, MDD's support team were very responsive (like, in minutes!) and when it got a bit tangled, Michael himself helped to sort it out.
After the initial issues (all my fault for setting things up wrong) the transfer of the rest of my sites was quick and painless. I'm now signed up MDDhosting's Intermediate Semi-Dedicated service.
I'm relieved, with semi-dedicated hosting, that they won't bog down over time with added subscribers. I'm impressed with MDDhosting.com's quality of service and I'm VERY happy at how fast my sites load now.
I give MDDhosting.com a ten out of ten!
Usual disclaimer: I'm not connected to MDDhosting.com in any way, other than being a happy customer. I don't normally post on forums but I was impressed by this company's service and I'm sure there are other small webmasters out there with the same kind of hosting problems I had.
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Is there anyone in e200paul who could provide me with the connection to my old servers so I could get my information? It's my last chance, I can't wait any longer and I really need this information.
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Jan 19, 2008
I am just dropping in my week one positive review of geekstorage.com. I migrated my two domains to them earlier this week from vistapages.com, after having been with vistapages.com for two years.
I had to endure too many growing pains with vistapages, and I am on a tight budget, so was looking for something similar to what vistapages offered at a similar low price.
Vistapages upgraded the server I was on in recent months and things had been a lot more stable, so I was about to give up my search and renew for two years with them until I clicked on the geekstorage.com link in one of Jays posts here.
Immediately I was intrigued by their name and site design, and then even more so when I saw their offerings. I really like how they don't have a typical commercial looking site and feel. After looking at maybe a hundred or more hosting services on the web that all look the same, it was honestly a refreshing experience. I know that's not a technical point really, but I guess the geek look and talk just appealed to my geek nature.
I've learned by spending time here at WHT, and from two years with vistapages to be skeptical and that whatever host I end up with that I need to be prepared to get what (in my case very little) I pay for, so I try not to have high expectations and just hope that I get pleasantly surprised by good enough service that I can endure, or maybe better. I have definitely been pleasantly surprised so far by geekstorage.com.
They handled all my pre-sales questions well, and thanks to their current 25% off coupon code available here at WHT, I got their developer plan for $4.50 per month, which fits in perfectly for me, where my sites are low traffic (currently under 2 gigs transfer for the month), but I have plenty of room for growth with them if I need it, and in pretty much whatever way I may need or want to grow.
I gave Geekstorage my login info for vistapages, and they migrated my domains for me the same day I signed up (3 gigs of data, a menalto gallery/database, a couple wordpress databases, etc...), they just plugged it all straight in and I was up and running that evening. I sure enjoyed not having to lift a finger! (thanks again to Geekstorage for that)
I made a mistake and changed my nameserver addresses when I didn't really need to (I had been using zoneedit.com and could have just left it that way), and that change caused me a day of down time on one of my addon domains, which always sucks, but that was obviously my fault, and they were completely responsive and polite to my unnecessary questions that I kept emailing to them...
The one minor issue after the move was because of the lack of Litespeed support for shtml, but they went to work on that right away when I reported it to them, and for me it was just for a little toy script I have anyway, and I had some php code as a workaround for it (for random text display), so no biggy there, but more importantly what I learned from the issue was that as far as customer service goes, these guys are on top of it, and have kept me posted with regular emails on the status...
I've noticed that the server speed is great with them for my sites and better than what I had. With vistapages it used to be a real drag going to make wordpress posts and stuff because the control panel was so sluggish, and there was always high cpu use at all times. This is not the case where I am now, at least not for now... I know there isn't nearly as much traffic or sites on the shared server I am on now as there was with vistapages.com, and I am going to enjoy that as long as it lasts!
Anyhow, I am very happy with my choice so far, and completely recommend if you are looking for a low budget shared host to go with these guys.
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Anyone else?
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Aug 6, 2007
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Jun 12, 2007
Ive had many problems with hosting companies in the past, and each time i gain advice from other designers, i talk about it on forums (inc sitepoint), and i like to say i learn from my mistakes.
However, i obviously cant be learning from my mistake as i continue to have problems.
Now, this time i chose a experienced host. You could say they sold me a package and everything was good. No complaints.. well that was until today.
I come back from working away to find my website is down (www.avillafan.com)
I also find my host's site is down, and i also got no reply from a email. So i took it one step further and decided to phone them to find out whats going on.
And i get this reply ' Yes, we are sorry man - ill get it back up very soon'
Now what does this mean? very soon is a few mins. Its now been a few hours.
Now ive lost money in the past, as i like to go for yearly deals and each time i get caught out. And once again, im wondering am i entitled to get my money back? Now every other business the customer should come first and is aways right.
So how come this doesnt seem the case in the web hosting/designing business?
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Jul 5, 2008
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Mar 1, 2009
I don't think I've given my thanks to KH yet so here goes..
I've been with KH for over 2 years now and worked my way up from a regular VPS to a Hybrid VPS. Their costs are low for their high quality of service, product, and care.
They have always answered my tickets in a timely manner and been lenient in my times of financial crisis when I fell behind payments a few times. They even allowed me to keep my 10% lifetime discount when I upgraded to a Hybrid VPS just because I've been a member for so long. They also have scalability opportunities for members that need dedicated servers (which I will be moving to in a few months).
There really is no need to fatten this post up. Just take away from this that KH is the absolutely best hosting provider out there.
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Jan 16, 2009
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Jul 19, 2009
We are from Brazil and we've been working with US dedicated servers for 5 years (Staminus, SoftLayer and FDCServers). We are now looking for colocation options to reduce our costs.
Which companies would you recommend that would allow us to by servers directly from them, replace hardware and do upgrades ? (we don't want to ship hardware).
What are the "old" and well known companies that would offer this kind of service with great support ? (we just need hardware/reinstall support but with fast responses on emergencies)
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Oct 19, 2009
I have no choice but to post this. I purchased a vps plan from them and couldn't login.
It was over the weekends. I tried to email them. No reply for more than 1 day. I emailed again, still no reply after many hours. I was quite shock because I read review that says support is supposedly good, even during the weekends. Have they closed down or are they posting good review for themselves?
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Sep 29, 2009
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I'm really amazed by the quality of their support,services and everything.
Their support is awesome and very user friendly and i got all my tickets solved within a very short time period
Most of all i have never seen a thing like downtime with them! They are just awesome!
I'm just giving them the credit which they deserve in return of providing such great services.
I highly recommend www.vps-hosting.ca .
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Apr 19, 2009
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Jan 19, 2009
I've been a satisfied customer at Servage for several years but the last couple a days is getting a little sweat on my forehead...
I'm not sure but some really weird things is happening at servage right now ....
I've tried to login at my controlpanel in almost a week - several times a day, but are not allowed access at all . Get the message that etiher username,password or captcha is entered wrong... I then try to reset my password etc - and it works all fine until I'm trying to login with the new one...same result - NOT working.
After several non working tries I decide to write them personal emails at sales@servage.net, support@servage.net, reply@servage.net ssf@servage.net (which is the founders private email ), but NO answer .... usually they're really kind and efficient and answers within a few hours, but this time : NO ANSWER .....
This evening I would then try to contact them again, and see on their webpage if I have missed some important email adresses, and I was QUITE surprised to notice that almost ANY of their subpages is leading to a non-existant page - EXCEPT from the order page.... pretty weird, I think
I'm not saying that they're on their way to close down, but it is actually an option if we take a look on the world economy in these days...
I would be glad if other Servage Customers could tell me if it is possible for them to login at their controlpanel at Servage
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Oct 12, 2009
I usually don't do this kind of stuff but when somebody does a good job it's right to let other people know, most of all in this industry.
it was Saturday, 12:52AM Euro time, i had an issue with the DNS of our new server, sent an email to Leaseweb support, within 5 minutes i had the answer.
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Jul 12, 2008
how you setup shared customers under WHM?
1) create a reseller account then set the shared customer under the reseller's account?
or
2) simply create the shared account under root account?
I usualy do it under root account...
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