Is Colo Worth It
Dec 31, 2007
I am planning on doing some media streaming (youtube style)
I am debating whether to colo my dual opteron (1u) - I am looking for 100mpbs port unmetered with some quality mixed bandwidth. How much will that run me for? does it make more sense to rent a dedicated server?
How about all those extras I hear about, like managed switches and power consumption..is that big issue?
Could somebody give me a quick quote as to how much colocating a 1u rack with 100mpbs premium b/w will cost? and then how much going the dedicated server route would compare
note: I need something that will get good speeds to asia. I anticipate 15 percent of visitors to be from Asia.
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Dec 16, 2007
Please give me the difference. Colo in carrier hotel, we can choose our preferred network provider, but should we do that if we cannot have our own tech in datacenter? How about the supporting service from carrier hotel? Just general question, cause I dont address exactly which facility.
And the second would be more expensive? Saying the same number of rack, amount of bandwidth... Who is providing IP addresses then?
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Jan 2, 2009
I want to buy Rackspace dedicated server service, but after I search at WHT, I found some said it good and some said it not good.
If I want to don't worrired about security issues. Would you recommand me chose Rackspace? Or do you have any recommand provider?
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Dec 10, 2008
Rackspace worth the $$?
The name, service and reputation is excellent but their prices seem to be much higher than similar services at other reputable providers.
The client looking at rackspace MUST have a reliable server, backups and security. These are not optional.
Is rackspace worth the extra dollars? Buying peace of mind or buying the name?
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Oct 23, 2008
So I run a small music forum site. We used to have the ability for our users to download music track sets. We had over 100 files that are generally around 80MB and the users could add more so our space requirements would increase over time.
We initially set this up with dreamhost.com (unlimited bandwidth/space) but they eventually asked us to stop using the space as a data repository and wanted to charge $1 per GB transferred (which at that time was about $100-120/month).
The Problem:
This is something our users want and would probably pay for. I'm sort of asking for advice on how to approach this problem. Need to figure out how we could set this up and what to charge the users for downloading the music files (price per file, monthly plans, etc). Considering we want to keep it cheap enough that users will pay and the hosting costs would probably rise with the demand and exposure of the program. What sort of hosts should I be looking for?
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Jun 9, 2008
I'm currently designing a website for a friend of mine for her new photography business.
And she does not know anything about the web, basically I am setting her up with hosting, domain, everything.... I've done this for about 3 people so far.
My question is, Is it worth it for me to buy a small reseller hosting plan, and have her pay me about $5-7 /mo, and since I will be handling everything, I get the support from my host and have her basically pay for my reseller hosting which I may end up with more clients from more web design? or just stick with the traditional recommending her to a company... Is there such thing as me making a few bucks from giving someone else business?
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Jul 30, 2008
I wonder if there is a big advantage if I would go 64bit instead of 32bit. Now I mean standard webserver + mysql. And how about compatibility isses?
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Nov 29, 2008
Is $35 Worth Getting i7 920 Instead Of Q9550?
Please thorw in your opinion on this..
Core i7 920
6GB DDR3
OR
Q9550
8GB DDR2
(Everything else the same)
When the i7 costs $35 more than Q9550, will you choose the i7 or Q9950? Is the extra preformance that i7 has worthy the extra $35?
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Dec 27, 2007
RAM price is so low nowadays that one could buy 8 GB of cheap ram for 300$ (4x2GB) to build a server. I have a server with 2x1GB cheap ram that has been running for 18 months without any issue.
My bet is that ECC ram is not worth it when you can buy normal ram for such low prices.
How many of you would run a server with 8GB of cheap ram?
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Aug 16, 2007
As I've mentioned in other threads, I work in the hosting industry at the support end of things. I can't go more than 10 minutes into my shift each day without seeing a ticket where someone is complaining about or contesting the "99% uptime guarantee". One day a couple weeks ago, I had someone complaining about an Alertra report with 98.7% uptime, and how it was unsatisfactory for their site to be down for 10 minutes every month. What's more, it was just a stupid World of Warcraft forum that probably saw 5 visitors per day.
My co-workers and I have been debating this, though. What worth is there in 99% uptime? Is it something that can be achieved? If so, would people pay more for it? Would it be able to be marketed to the shared hosting community? Would people be willing to pay more for 100% uptime? Would the same answers apply?
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Jun 2, 2009
I've read a couple of reviews on similar forums and blogs trying to figure out which hosts are worth their buck. The main points of discussion were:
- Price
- Reliability (up/downtime)
- Support
Most of the providers were either too expensive, or lack proper support.
The most discussed company was Hostgator. I don't understand the hype but maybe you guys can help me out here.
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Jul 12, 2007
I was wondering, if installing ffmpeg-php is worth the trouble for shared hosting accounts or if it is too much of a resource hog. I had a couple of requests for that but I am not used to this extension.
Thank you for giving me your feedbacks on this.
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Apr 7, 2008
is it worth getting a hardware firewall?
we have a lot of dos attack ....
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Oct 3, 2009
Worth pay for the WiredTree services?
Because I'm wanting to change from my Dedicated in GalaxyVisions to another host...
I read everywhere about the good services from WiredTree...
But they're the most expensive, too...
So, there's the question...
Worth pay for the WiredTree services?
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Nov 2, 2009
I have seen some requests for cheap Virtual Private Servers. By saying "cheap" I mean under $20/month... However the those who posted the requests meant under $10/month...
I don't think that a virtual machine or container would cost $10 or less, but I've seen some providers to offer virtual servers with a very small amount of resources - a couple gigs of space, not to much bandwidth and 64 MB or 128 MB RAM - and to price them around 10 bucks per month.
Although I'd never go this way I'm curious to read what do you thin about such a marketing policy. Do you think that offering a VPS which can not even have a control panel because it doesn't have enough resources is a good practice? (I realize that there are different scenarios and some people probably don't need hosting automation software, but at the same time need a low cost virtual machine...)
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Sep 11, 2008
I have heard that majority of the people use hostgator as their host and i looked at their pricing and its looks very good and reasonable aswell.
I want to know how hostgator is, and how has your experience been with them?
I hope to get some good replies so i can purchase hostgator hosting.
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Dec 16, 2008
I wanted to reach out to WH Talk users and see what there experience with Blue Host has been like. I've heard some good things and some bad things about buying hosting for a blog on there website. I like that they have private domains names and give you unlimited hosting but is it really worth $6.95 per month.
I see a few other hosting companies that charge a little less but don't offer as much. Can anyone share there experience with this hosting service before I make a decision?
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Oct 10, 2008
is liquidweb worth the price
i need low space and low bandwidth 1gb space and 30-50gb bandwidth
just looking for reliability
but $20 per month is that a lots maybe i am wrong
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Jul 4, 2008
at the moment i have 4gb ddr2 and having harpertown e5405 under servload ranging 0.1 to 1 depending on the peak hours.
so im wondering is it worth to get ecc ram?
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May 7, 2008
Is godaddy reseller plans worth or not?
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Jul 12, 2008
So far I really haven't found any free hosting options that I would personally use for any of my websites. Are there any "full-featured" free hosting options that a lot of people don't know about?
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May 22, 2008
We offer colocation & dedicated servers as well as shared & reseller hosting services.
Our colocation customers and dedicated server customers are definitely on their own VLANs for obvious reasons.
Up until now, we have been using separate VLANS and ip allocations for each of the servers in our shared & reseller server fleet. I'm starting to question this policy for many reasons:
1) We directly manage all of the servers and it is very rare that any servers are compromised to the point where they can steal an IP address.
2) We are wasting IP addresses - network, broadcast and gateway addresses are required for each vlan. Additionally, if a server needs 1 more IP address, we need to add a whole new block.
If all of the servers are under our direct management, does it make sense for us to use any vlans at all? It seems that it only serves to complicate things, waste ips and add management overhead.
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Apr 3, 2008
I'm contemplating whether to get a quad core high clock speed OR 2x quad core lower clock speed processor for my rack server.
The question boils down to.. Does Apache, PHP, and MySQL support multi-threading? Will having a bunch of cores just be a waste if high-traffic web hosting is the primary goal?
I run a PHP/MySQL intensive shopping cart.
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Sep 17, 2008
What are the most important things to look for in a hosting company?
Cost?
Network Speed?
Uptime?
Quality hardware?
Quality Support?
Fast Support?
Redundancy?
Most people would say all of above right? Well, if you had to stack each of the above in order of importance, where would you put cost at? Is it at the top for you or at the bottom? If I had to rate each of them it would look something like this:
Uptime
Network Speed and reliability
Redundancy of power, bandwidth, cooling
Reputable Tier 1 carriers of bandwidth
Quality Support
Fast Support
Quality hardware
Cost
The problem is that I see many people on WHT acting like Cost if the #1 factor in determining a host. And when you let cost be your #1 determining factor, you will be usually sacrificing on some or all of the other factors that you should be looking at. The higher up the list you put cost in deciding where to host, the more you will sacrifice quality in these other important areas.
"But", you say, "I see many quality companies offering cheap pricing. Shouldn't I choose to go with them?" Consider this, hosting companies like any other business need to be able to make a profit. Sale prices are great but there are reasons for sale prices and you need to consider these reasons when choosing to buy a cheap server. Some common reasons for selling servers for extremely cheap are;
- The hardware is used and old and the hosting company is just looking get something for it. ANYTHING!
- They have an excess of inventory for one reason or another that they need to get rid of.
- They buy their servers used on Ebay and can therefore afford to sell them cheap.
- The cheap server is merely a loss leader used to bring business in order to sell other products and services at full price but is not a regular price that you can expect from this company.
- The company is new and is looking to attract prospective clients on price alone and is dropping the price just to get their client base increased quickly.
There are companies selling servers on WHT who fall into each of these categories so you need to think about this when you make a decision for who to go with. The common denominator with the above list is simple... It is Unsustainable! Not one of the reasons listed above can be sustained for a long period of time.
If you can get a good deal on a server with a solid company, and there are many on WHT that are great companies who have great deals on servers at times, then that is wonderful. But do not expect that you will be able to get insanely cheap pricing on a regular basis from this company and don't be surprised when you want another server if the price is significantly higher. Every hosting company has certain costs that are unavoidable:
- Rent
- Power
- Bandwidth
- Payroll
- Employee Benefits
- Server Hardware Costs
- Software Licensing
- Marketing and Advertising
- Maintenance Contracts
- Network Equipment
- Infrastructure Replacement (a/c's, generators, UPS units, etc.)
- Other Utilities
The point in bringing all of this up is that if you plan on finding a hosting company that you can stay with for the long haul, you need to look at their regular pricing for retail servers and for reselling servers. Cheap prices are great, but no business can stay in business if they only offer cheap pricing. And if a hosting company is only attracting you by their cheap pricing, then it shows that they are most likely weak when it comes to the other essential factors mentioned above that need to be considered. Any hosting company selling servers for under $80 per month for instance is loosing money in some way. Eventually, the price will be raised to cover those costs (like at LT this year) and then you are left to make up that difference.
As with most things in life, good quality cannot be sold cheap, and that which is cheap is usually not good quality.
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Apr 26, 2008
Pair is really well respected (from what I've heard), but their dedicated servers are a lot more expensive than many I've looked at. I've honestly wanted to use them because of their reputation, and my uptime being critical, but wanted to see if there are less expensive servers who are just as good...
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Dec 18, 2008
BirdHosting - worth my time to write a review
I just completed my latest site launch with BirdHosting.com and I have to say Mike knows how to operate this hosting company. I've been with ourinternet.us (spare me ever again---please), HostMySite, and GoDaddy. Godaddy was my latest host until I moved it over to Bird. Godaddy didn't give me much flexibility with their VPS windows hosting plans. I needed more then 10 gigs on a windows host.
A buddy of mine referred me to Mike from BirdHosting and Mike had me up and going before I even gave him a credit card. He really wanted to impress and meet all my needs. I now have a 50 gig / 1gig windows vps for a super great monthly price. I enjoy the personal attention I get when something goes wrong.
BirdHosting also helped me pick out two servers for where I work at too. Mike spent over 45 minutes on the phone with me answering questions I had. Godaddy would NEVER do that.
Anyways - I'm enjoying super FAST up time since going over to the birds nest. worth a look at if you are considering hosting companies.
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Jun 18, 2007
I signed up for a 1 month trial of Matt's hosted service for form mail as I was in a hurry to get a client's web site form going (the site was migrated from Windows Server, where it used an asp script).
The features look good, but I was hoping someone has experience using it and can share some insights.
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Mar 28, 2007
I'm just about to buy my first commercial hosting package. I'm leaning towards 1 and 1 hosting, but I don't know whether to go for the US or UK version.
The US version:
costs $2.99 a month
with 10GB storage and 300GB transfer
The UK version:
costs £4.49 a month (about $8)
with 1.5 GB storage and 20GB transfer
Are there many big / important advantages to going with a local host, and is it worth the extra cost?
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Apr 9, 2008
I'm planning on launching a php-based web application within a month or two and am weighing different hosting options. I was almost certain with my plan to use two dedicated servers (one for web, one for db) but I can't help reading about all of these new grid/cloud/utility hosting solutions that promise instant scalability and deployment - which sounds like a blessing. I know there is a lot of garbage and marketing hype so I felt I should ask what the real deal is. Are these services reliable, worth using, really that easy to use, powerful, etc? I was looking at gogrid's demo videos and to instantly launch a few web servers, a db server, load balancer, etc, in 15 minutes for 30% of the cost - I can't ignore it.
So whats the deal?
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Jun 9, 2009
I am a PHP/MySQL web developer and I want to take on the challenge of administering my own server.
I have Plesk installed on the server, and I imagine I will have command line access to the dedicated server.
What unknown challenges lie ahead for me? What are things to monitor to keep the site running efficiently? What should I be using to connect to the server? What tools are available to help me be more efficient?
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Jul 19, 2007
During my poking around performance tips I found the DELAY_KEY_WRITE option (and innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit = 0 for innodb)
which supposedly for mysql will disable the immediate disk flush for every transaction written and instead update only once every second at most?
One thing I've never had to restart on my vps is mysql, it's been great. So is this safe to turn on? Am I risking corruption? Will the performance gain be worth it with only a 16M cache?
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