HostNine - Hijacked A Client Account; Won't Give Files Back
Apr 21, 2008
I have been with HostNine for almost a year now and have had reasonably decent service, until now.
They recently suspended one of my client's accounts. Understandable, the account had some very old PHP files on them. Let me preface this by stating that I am very sympathetic to hosts who have to deal with problem clients who have sites that slow down shared servers for everyone else on them.
I have tried my hardest to work with HostNine to get these files back and ensure that this account is not a problem on their server. I have never once asked for them to restore the account "as is", all have I have asked is that they backup the files and the database for me (I would do it myself, but they locked me out of the account), so that I can investigate the problem and do testing to ensure that it doesn't cause them problems again.
All in all, getting anyone to co-operate has been unsuccessful. Getting a hold of them has been a hassle (from the time I e-mailed them about the issue to the time I received my first response was a span of over 6 hours). Getting them to co-operate has been impossible. Their "Support Manager", Alex, in broken English has told me next to nothing, aside to accuse me of trying to "get around this" and that I would need to move the account to one of their dedicated plans. I have asked that the account simply be backed up, but have not received any response so far, as time ticks away and the client whose account this was becomes more and more frustrated as their files are effectively being "held hostage".
My last complaint is that they never notified myself, nor the client that they had suspended the account.
Has anyone else had problems with trying to get their files back after a host has locked you out of your account? What are my options? Does the hosting company technically "own" the files, simply because they are being hosted on their server?
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Nov 26, 2007
I know nothing of server management, nothing about how to manage my VPS Can't even install a simple software and do not know how to secure my VPS on the other hand I am so busy I can't learn at least for a few months have trouble
Should I go back to share hosting?
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I have this problem today after a fresh install...
I think its maybe i havent dont it proper im not sure..
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Also it trys to login to whm not cpanel with the account, even tho its set up as shared hosting in products...
the login link is : [url]( i removed name for security)
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I built a web hosting server, the following is its state
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now when i load up wordpress in a site and try to run install.php
the following pops up
"Sorry, I can't write to the directory. You'll have to either change the permissions on your WordPress directory or create your wp-config.php manually."
I had this issue before and research said to redo the entire server (tried everything and was fed up had fedora then"
you can have a look at www.itgrunts.com just click create config file and the errror pops up.
The php and mysql db work great on simple scripts but i dont know why this happens.
i worked with assigning the users and apache user to the directory and everything, no joy.
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Does anyone know the proper avenue for cancelling an account with HostNine? They are giving me the run around and ignoring my requests for a cancellation. I originally tried to cancel my account a couple of months ago by e-mail. They informed me that I had to submit a cancellation request through their website. I have submitted a cancellation request through their website SEVERAL TIMES since then. They never sent me any kind of response or confirmation, so I assumed (wrongly, I guess) that the account was cancelled, but they keep charging my credit card over and over.
I have requested again that the account be cancelled and told them that I would simply perform a chargeback since they are basically billing me for a service that I have continually requested be cancelled via their own online cancellation form using their own process for cancelling accounts. Nick Hudson @ HostNine's response to this was to threaten that they would send attorneys and collection agencies after me. All while claiming that it is "NOT hard" to cancel an account. I agree with them; cancelling your account when the company will actually deal with you should not be hard.
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Some related problems have already been discussed here in the forum (e.g.: [URL] .... or this one: [URL] ...., but it all did not quite match with my problem.
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I guess you can fugure my account expired with servage.
but to tell you the truth, I am so P OFF at them
I opened a ticket on my last day and asked if I can move it from 14 months (that I started with) to a 6 months renewal because I could'nt afford to pay the £74 they wanted, and apologised for this. They said I'd have to pay the 74 pounds first and then change my billing to 3 or 6 months.....
I replied saying can I then pay a sum now and a some next week. as I don't have that with me at the moment but wednesday 9th April I wil be able to remew it all
They replied with:
"Hello Ahmed
there is 14 days grace period for customers before account gets suspended."
So I thanked them very much, because like that, instead of paying in installments, I can just pay them the whole amount before the grace period was over, otherwise I would've backed up my data and moved it another server, or on my computer till I remew the whole amount....
5 days later (today), I log on to my account, and it has been suspended as I hav'nt paid for 5 days...thats 9 days before the "grace period"
and now all my domains have this dirty suspended page that they have, and I bet I lost half my members and customers like this, as when I see this page on any domain I enter I never go back to it!
I say to my self its my falt, I should've paid when I had to.....but money was tight, and I told them....and they gave me the 14 days, I did'nt ask for anything, but I thought backing up all my sites and my webdriver that I have with them would take me ages, plus the pages have alot of content that would be a hassle, if I have a "14 days grace period".
This is the first time servage have lied to my face, and not by answering a question with yes or no, by saying a feature they have that does'nt exist and but wednesday I bet all my customers and members would've found somewhere else to hang out, as I only contacted them through the mail server on the site and my forum, now I can't even right "we will be back soon....don't go away",
I thought I warn you guys about this grace, if you have an account with them make sure your ready to renew before it expires, and don't believe most of the stuff that they say.
OMG, I used to promote for these people, and tried hard to always say good stuff about them, you see my sig, it was a promotion for them with a coupon code (that I dredfully apologies about to the administration for not reading the rules properly), and I get in return a lie straight in my face with no warning and no way of accessing my database what so ever.
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--------------- Quote from hosting provider ---------------
">> Does this mean that my passwords do not need to be changed?
Server is fully rooted, and will need to be reinstalled. Leaving the server online is a very, very serious risk for you. Let me show you some of the powers the hax0rs have at this time from their upload/hax0r script.
Php Safe-Mode Bypass (Read Files)
File:
eg: /etc/passwd
Php Safe-Mode Bypass (List Directories):
Dir:
eg: /etc/
Search
- regexp
Upload
[ Read-Only ]
Make Dir
[ Read-Only ]
Make File
[ Read-Only ]
Go Dir
Go File
--[ x2300 Locus7Shell v. 1.0a beta Modded by #!physx^ | LOCUS7S | Generation time: 0.0396 ]-- "
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Where would I look for evidence of this and what am I looking for?
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My interest is more than intellectual.
Until last weekend my 2 1/;2 year project that has grown in sales volume beyond my expectations. I had had no contact with this person for 8 months and in that time sales where consistent. I Had changed all accesses, IP etc etc. I used to host with him. Then moved hosts since I didn't trust him (same problem back then - sales fell to nothing but traffic grew) moved to my current host.. not long after find HE is now on that host too.. now after I have contact from him again, sales have gone flat without any explanation, even though traffic has increased! 1:300 has become 1:10000 and I have checked everything site side (I'm a webmaster for over 10 years)
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Not a question exactly related to HostNines hosting ability (have read a bunch of reviews, most seem good - and we all know that the pleased people rarely speak compared to the not so pleased), but how is their affiliate program? I've seen a few worried reviews on here concerning getting paid, but seems like they were updating their system and the people did infact get paid.
They seem to be one of the only hosts (if not only?) that offer such a nice payout on referrals that may only pay $4/month. I've sent in a few tickets about the program (and received fast responses) so I'm inclined to think they're a good host as well. Every other affiliate I've looked at will pay nice comissions but only after the referral pays large upfront fees (usually yearly accounts). So, hows HostNine guys?
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Nov 13, 2008
I know the title of this thread seems a little hokey, but it's true and this is why:
Ben (operations manager) basically dropped everything to help me downgrade my account.
Here's the long story:
I have been with HostNine (h9) for about 18 months. I have hosted everything from ecommerce sites to forums and static sites. Recently, I needed to make a change to my account and downgrade from reseller account to a 'regular' account. Anytime I need to upgrade/downgrade my account I always do a little host shopping.
Sometimes I even just 'host shop' to see what else is out there.
A few months ago I tried media temple. What the heck right? I mean all the 'trendy' sites I went to seemed to have the {mt} badge on the site, plus the 'grid server' seemed to make sense to me. So I tried it. While it might have been ok for some people, the MySQL response time seemed slow. I also didn't seem to get the service I was used to at HostNine, so I went back.
Recently, when I needed to downsize my account from reseller to regular hosting, I decided to go host shopping. My criteria for a new host was cost, support, and the ability to host a good number of domains (around 20). I also wanted a solid host that wasn't going to go belly-up during this crappy economy. Unknowingly that HostNine changed their hosting packages, and after a couple of days looking, I went with HostGator.
Now, Hostgator and Hostnine both offer 'Unlimited' space, domains, and bandwidth. I'm smart enough to know that nothing is unlimited and also aware of hosts overselling server resources (which is why I left hostmonster to go to h9 18 months ago). I knew that on a good day my sites might take up a total of 3-4 gigs and I've never had bandwidth issues. But I get 'inspiration' frequently to buy a domain and start a new website.
I canceled my account with HostNine and went with HostGator.
Here's the kicker with HostGator and why I went back to HostNine: While Hostgator says 'Unlimited Space' they do keep a count on how many files you have. After 50,000 files they will remove your account from backups (and hence not back-up your site). At 250,000 files on the server they could suspend your account. It was no big deal at first. But then I started moving over my wordpress, expression engine, phpbb, and custom sites and realized that with the files in these scripts, plus e-mail, temp files, cache files, and images (even little icons), I could hit the 50,000 mark rather quickly. CRAP! Even if I stay at 3 gigs, I could still go over the file limits.
Realize that I moved all my sites to hostgator and all propagation had been completed.
At this time I did some more research on hosts and realized that HostNine changed their hosting packages and offers what Hostgator does without the limitations.
So (watch the order of events as I screwed this up) I submitted a cancellation request to HostGator. I THEN went to HostNine and started a live chat with Ben. I explained to him that I needed to downgrade my old account and not cancel it. I also explained to him that I needed to open up my new account ASAP because I was scared that because I canceled my account at HostGator I would miss any cancelation verification or any support tickets at either place.
Ben (HostNine operations manager), at that moment, took the time to personally downgrade my account and make sure I had all the information I needed to transfer my domains back to HostNine before I lost any important emails. My hosting issues were resolved in 10 minutes.
And, to look back, it's been like that with support since I started with hostnine. Unless I step away from the computer, support requests were responded to quickly and usually resolved painlessly.
Once I get more clients, I will go back to reseller hosting with H9. I just wanted to write a positive review for a great experience. If anyone is looking for a great host, try hostnine.com.
Like I said to Ben - after being with bluehost, dreamhost, hostmonster, hostgator, and media temple, I think hostnine is the best for what I need.
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Nov 10, 2009
Many of the VPS providers I've looked at don't back up the servers that house the VPSs and as such don't back up the VPSs either - have you considered what would happen should the VPS itself be erased (such as what happened to vaserv/fsckvps not too long ago)?
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Apr 17, 2009
I was going to wait on this until I heard back from HostNine about my backups, but I'll go ahead and review them. By the way for anyone interested, you can view their F rating for yourself at the Better Business Bureau: [url]
I have used 6 hosts during my 9 years on the internet. Of those 6, HostNine is the 3rd longest at 9 months. It did seem to be the answer to what I was looking for. Back then the price was only $3.95 a month with no contracts. I could pay by the month, and I was a bit gun shy back then after going through 2 back to back bad situations, so I didn't want to pay for another year in advance and fear not getting my money back if I needed to leave.
I'm sure you've all heard the phrases, Don't judge a book by its cover and/or If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Well, HostNine fits both of those. You can't assume the company is reputable because they seem to be what you want and need. True, they have a very good uptime. I only had one problem in the first month, but my site was only down for a few hours, and I've had no problems since then (until I was suspended that is). I was assured it was another user that was taken care of. Well, I now know what they mean by "taken care of." My site has grown a little bit during those 9 months, but I never got even close to the max storage space or bandwidth allowed.
This host will suspend you after one thing that they feel violates their TOS. They don't care if it's fair. They don't care if the problem is easy to fix. They don't care if it's never happened before or that it won't happen again. Hostnine is a One Strike You're Out company. They act like it's to protect their other customers, but they wouldn't delay suspending any of those customers for the slightest reason. Is this what you would want to trust with your business?
They have a community forum that is comprised of their friends and loyal followers. If you dare post anything even slightly negative on that forum, a member will tell you that it's wrong...or your post will be deleted. HostNine expects all their members to visit this forum on a daily basis to read about any maintenance or server downtimes. Unless you join that community and become friends with the staff, they show you no loyalty if a problem arises. I don't want to be friends with my host. I just expect them to run in the background and provide the service I pay for.
I would never go back to HostNine, since I cannot trust them. BUT they promised me a backup, which I have in an email:
> From: HostNine Abuse <abuse@hostnine.com>
> Subject: [#ITH-505861]: Account Suspended: judelb
> Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 7:02 AM
>
> We can provide a backup and please stop emailing support for
> a restore.
> Regards,
> Alex Jankuv
> Hostnine Support
I have waited and still have not received the backup. I have emailed and asked, but they are now ignoring me. Well, I won't be ignored. It doesn't hurt my feelings that they don't want me to be a customer anymore. I have a feeling I know why. They recently raised their prices to $6.95 a month to be prepaid for a full year. They are probably trying to weed out those of us that were paying $3 less on a monthly basis. Whether or not this is true is moot, though. I don't care what their reasons are, but I do care about not having received the backups they have promised me...and believe it or not, this could happen to you as well. I read all the negative reviews for HostNine out there, but I felt I would give them a chance. Until someone has burnt me, I try not to judge, but I'm here to try to save anyone else from this. My website is currently running on an old backup. I've had a lot of personal issues the last year, so I haven't downloaded any backups in awhile. It hurts my site and online business to be running on an old backup. How hard would it be for HostNine to give me the promised backups? I wouldn't think it that hard...would you?
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