Exceeding Your Power Allocation
Jun 6, 2007
I just moved data centres here in the UK. I've paid for a 47U rack with 8amps of power. I plugged everything in and the meter is reading 8.9 - 9.1 amps. Seems fine at the moment, should I be worried about it tripping or is it just a case of if they find out they'll hike my bill up?
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Apr 24, 2008
Some friends and I have started a Movie Site at [url].
We currently are averaging around 14,000 Unique Visitors per month.
We run wordpress with several plugins, a flash player for podcasts and an image rotator.
We have lots of bandwidth and don't have a problem there but we have a big problem with CPU usage.
If we enable the WP and Super Cache plugin then the site pretty much instantly gets the Exceeding CPU Usage.
We are considering switching hosts (we are currently with HostMonster) but I am unsure of who to switch to. With only 14,000 Unique visitors we won't make much at all in advertising and since this is a hobby most of us are unable to put large amounts of cash into hosting.
here is the error page but I'm sure you all have seen it before...
This Account Has Exceeded Its CPU Quota
Please contact this site's webmaster.
Wait a few minutes and use your browser's "Back" button or click here to try again.
If you are the webmaster, your account may have gotten this error for one or more of the following reasons:
* Your account has used more than its share of the cpu in the past 60 second sliding window.
* Your account has too many concurrent processes running simultanously.
* Your account has consumed too much memory.
* Your site was recently very busy trying to run inefficient scripts.
The solution would be to optimize your applications to use less CPU.
Adding appropriate indeces to your SQL tables can often help reduce CPU.
Using static .html documents instead of painful .php scripts will practically eliminate CPU usage.
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Dec 10, 2007
Hello,
Lunarpages and jerked me around enough times that I'm considering other options. I won't go into too many details, but they recently moved me to a new server that was configured completely different and my forum ended up being down for 4 days. During that time, their support was non-existent. Now, they keep sending me emails that I'm exceeding my alloted CPU usage. They want me to upgrade.
Admittedly, I am using their lower end hosting, which I think I paid $100 for the year or something.
After the way I've been treated, I can't imagine spending another dime at Lunarpages. So I'm looking for new hosting options. My forum is growing, but it certainly isn't a large forum. I have about 30-40 new members join each day and I usually have about 1,000 active members. I'm running vbseo and a few mods, but my unique hits per day is probably around 2,000 uniques per day for the forum give or take. My forum does use quite a bit of bandwidth as people upload songs they have recorded and submit them for review frequently.
I've considered the notion of having a server built for me and paying $100 per month for colocation and being done with it, but I'd prefer to avoid this cost, if possible.
Any suggestions?
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May 9, 2008
I run a fairly large but low traffic oscommerce site that is currently hosted on ipower.
I exceed the "max_questions" variable they have limiting sql queries.
I have already created a bunch of users and it helps but it's still not perfect.
What I need:
• No SQL Limits.
• Ability to host up to 10 domains.
• 5 gigs of storage (user uploads).
• 20 gig/month of bandwidth.
• Fast network.
• Access to techs that know what they are doing.
• 10-20 emails
• A nice user friendly panel to handle everything.
• Looking to keep price around $10-$20 a month.
I would love to have a slice of the CPU and memory like a VPS but I don't know linux and it's a little scary.
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Oct 21, 2007
How could I check the amount of CPU allocation I have on my VPS
Currently I have a VPS 1GB 50%CPU,
not what I would say is fast or can do sitemapping, I would like to be able to benchmark, as my small vps seems better and is 1/3 of the price
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Apr 25, 2007
Q1: You've got one server with 8MB RAM. You offer a single VPS plan with 256GB guaranteed RAM. Does this mean that you are limited to exactly 32 VPS clients on this machine? (Or 8 clients if you had a single 1MB plan.)
Q2: On a single Virtuozzo machine, again with 8MB RAM, do providers typically mix and match plans on the same box? In other words will they typically put their 1MB clients on the same box as the 256MB clients?
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Dec 25, 2007
Is there a program for linux that exists to troubleshoot memory allocation problems?
I am bound and determined to get this to work..I think I need a new direction..a new tool to use to figure out what's going wrong.
This is on a vps server...yet I feel this post belongs here..since this is extremely technical in nature.
I have already become an expert of kernel settings...and that really has not helped terribly.
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Mar 23, 2008
I got this from a client I host:
We get this message on our forum (arcade section)
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to
allocate 131375 bytes) in
/home/XXXXX/public_html/forums/sources/classes/class_display.php on line 482
Before I look into that, is it a server problem (my responsibility), or a problem with the client's forum software (not my responsibility).
If it's something I have to fix from my end, what do I do? I've never encountered that error that I can remember.
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Apr 29, 2007
I just signed up to a new VPS server with 640MB RAM guaranteed and 2GB burst RAM..
Here's what I've got on my privvmpages:
Soft Limit: 524,288
Hard Limit: 655,360
I stumbled upon this thread (webhostingtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-466457.html) and realized that I only get 512MB guaranteed RAM instead of 640MB RAM as written on their specs..
Is my calculation all right?.. or did I miss something here..
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Jan 23, 2008
After obtaining a new allocation from ARIN, how long do you typically wait before your upstreams update their filters to allow the new announcement? Which providers are most proactive? Least?
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Apr 6, 2009
It seems every few VPS's this happens.
Quote:
PTY allocation request failed on channel 0
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May 6, 2008
OS: Debian etch
partition type: EXT3
I was unziping from network 4gb file to my server and server crashed. When I got it back up partition has allocated 4gb of space, but there is no file I cannot reallocate it.
/dev/hda6 67G 63G 437M 100% /home
Like you can see above 4gb is allocated but it is not used, so what can i do?
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Mar 10, 2008
I am running exim, centos.
My mail server stopped working this weekend, when I got in today I restarted and all the emails came through. The panic_log shows:
daemon: accept process fork failed: Cannot allocate memory several times over the course of a few minutes. Can anyone give me advice on troubleshooting this one?
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Feb 7, 2007
Our company currently has colo in NY, UK and Geneva and have recently started to rent some space in an Australian datacentre.
In each of our existing centres we have a /26 range of IP addresses assigned to us (62 usable IPs) and we requested the same for our Australian installation.
The colo company has email us today with our IP range allocation and they seem to have chosen to allocate us 12 seperate /29 ranges (6 usable IPs).
This seems really strange to me, is it normal practise? Why not just assign us one /26 as requested.
Also, our WatchGuard firewalls only accept one range in the configuration and then you add in all of the IP aliases seperatly. If I set a the IP range to bigger than the range we own (to cover all 12 seperate ranges we've been issued) would this cause problems for the people that own the other IPs in this large range?
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Dec 3, 2007
Got a slight problem on my development OpenVZ server, it has been working 100% up until 2 days ago when I did a restart.
I have 5 VE's (id 201 - 205), I was able to run all 5 will ample resourses spare.
Now I can only run one at a time...?
I checked the logs and get this
Dec 3 18:16:17 localhost kernel: allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=<size> to increase size.
Dec 3 18:16:17 localhost kernel: VE: 202: stopped
Dec 3 18:16:17 localhost kernel: VE: 202: failed to start with err=-12 ....
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Jul 27, 2009
do dual power supplies use more power than a single supply?
E.g. Say I have a server than uses two amps, powered by a single power supply. Now if I switch to a dual supply (and say each supply has the same efficiency rating as the single), does my server use more power? How much more?
My simple view of this is that it probably does, but maybe not much. The second power supply consumes some power itself, but since its not under load, it doesn't consume much. Therefore, my server with redundant supplies might use 2.1A or 2.2A.
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Jan 15, 2008
Im getting this error when i try to create a package for a client. As far as i can tell, everything is set up properly. Its located inside my WHM area, but the billing software wont create the account and gives me:
Package Not Allowed or Exceeded Resource/Account Allocation
but i have no resource or account allocation settings set. everything is wide open.
My second question is, if i want to give someone unlimited bandwidth/storage, how do i do that? ive tried -1 and 0, but it keeps kicking it out as not valid. any ideas?
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Dec 2, 2007
I just signed my agreement for 2 cabinets at Internap's Atlanta CoLo. For now, I will just have 1 120V 20A circuit in each cabinet.
At my office's server room we currently have 8 circuits I am powering my 2 racks from. I am just curious how many servers you can typically put on a 20A circuit. I am also considering adding two additional power feeds (1 more for each cabinet) to have truly redundant power for my dual power supplies.
I am hoping that 20A is plenty for my needs. I have around 20 HP and Dell systems. Mostly HP DL380s and Dell PE2950s.
Any ideas? I am splitting them in half, only filling up a half of each cabinet for now, as we are growing quickly and I wanted to overguy space so I would not be forced to add another cabinet later and have it end up somewhere else in the DC.
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Sep 10, 2009
I wonder if any colocation providers here have any tips for measuring power. Currently I'm using APC 7900 power strips with amperage meter. I'm not a power expert by any means but I want to be able to calculate whats the cost having a server drawing 2 amps 24/7 365 days week.
Our secondary site gave us a whopping power bill, and at our own data center we never considered charging our customers for power.
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Aug 10, 2009
I need to know what happens when a rack has capped its (lets say) 5A limit. I'm trying to calculate what exactly I can put into a rack and am considering that not all servers are going to be 100% load, as that would be bad performance anyway.
I guess it could do the following (but really don't know):
Cap performance of all servers
Cause system failures
Trip
The rack would have servers, a switch and perhaps a Remote Power Strip and Firewall. I don't know how they would be affected.
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Apr 8, 2008
how much power the average hard drive would use? (ie a 1tb drive). I was looking on WDC's website and it said 7.5 watts peak durring writing and reading etc, so assuming thats at 110 voltage, would it be safe to assume that 12 drives @ 7.5 watts each would make a total of .81 amps? I am going off of the equation that Amps = Watts/Volts. So amps = 90/110
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Jun 21, 2008
"Can i host a small forum at a 64mb ram vps with lighttpd and mysql? How many users can i have online?" I said that he can do that.Is this answer true?
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Feb 4, 2008
I've been doing research, and looking around on Google for a list of processors that use little power.
What are some of the processors out now a days that have minimal power usage?
Chassis will be SuperMicro's with 1-4 GB ram, if that's of any use.
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Jan 13, 2008
We are transitioning from an on-site data center to a collocation facility and are having problems negotiating the right amount of power, the type of connections, and the PDU power strips that we need.
For simplicity lets say that we are going to rent a 10 ft by 10 ft cage area. This should house 4-5 rack cabinets.
The amount of power we are given for this area varies with the lowest being 120 watts/sq. ft and the highest being 175 watts/sq. ft.
With 120 watts per square foot that comes out to about 6.25 circuits that are 20 amps for a 10x10 space.
For the initial setup we would have a Cisco 73xx Router, a HP 26xx switch, an Avocent IP KVM, an EMC CX3-10 SAN, and our Dell PowerEdge 2950 III servers (4).
Using the calculator at: dell.com/calc I show the power requirements for all of the Dell equipment to be:
C13 Power Cord Qty: 12
Amperage on C13 Cords: 26.49 amps
System Heat/Power: 2754.6 watts
Total Current: 13.24 amps
The way I was envisioning this was Rack 1: Router, Switching, KVM on a 20 amp circuit and Rack 2: Dell Equipment on a 30 amp circuit. Is that right?
Additionally, I'm confused about single phase vs. three phase power in the data center and what most people choose to implement. I've heard talk of getting redundant power in each cabinet but that seems like you limit yourself to half of your space doing it that way.
And the last thing is it's confusing about what type of PDU you need to put in your racks to make it all come together. All of our equipment should be using IEC C13 cords and we're thinking about going with Avocent for all of the KVM/PDU so we can centrally manage it.
It seems to me that if the cost is roughly the same we should be pressing as hard as possible for the highest watts/square foot since that seems to be one of the most important commodities in any data center.
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Feb 16, 2008
How much does a typical quad core Xeon eat, say an E5410 or a E7320? a 2GB RAM stick? A 500-750GB SATA disk? How much is the system overhead for a 1U unit? I tried to find data on this without too much success. For example Intel says the same number (80W) for an 1.6GHz CPU and a 2.4GHz one -- that does not sound too reliable to me.
If this is too abstract, then I would like to ask aobut the real world power consumption of two boxes. 1 E5410, 8GB of RAM, 2 SATA disk maybe 10K RPM. The other will have two E7320, 24-32GB of RAM and 3 10-15K disk.
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Nov 26, 2008
I have been interested in setting up my own server for hosting a website and a small online game I created. My only problem is how good of a server I would need to get.
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Jun 14, 2007
What the difference between high and low power on a PDU?
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May 4, 2007
how to figure out how much power one would need?
My potential colo provider is saying that a 5A circuit comes standard with a 1/4 cabinet and that they charge $20 per amp over that. I will have (6) Dell 1650's with dual 650W PSU's. Any idea how to calculate how much actual power I will need for this configuration?
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Mar 9, 2007
Im currently going through my tool box of parts and was thinking of building some cheap dedis for my customers. Unfortuantly the only hardware I can find is SocketA AMD 3200 (Barton Core) processors but Im unsure of the power they pull in amps.
The setup I would be looking to us is 512mb RAM, 80gb Hard Drive, Socket A 3200 XP processor.
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Dec 13, 2007
What do you think the Standard Pricing for power should be in Toronto.
I heard $10 /amp how does that sound, Im just doing some research thanks for your comments.
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