Just curious about what kind of pricing people have been able to get when going for 95th percentile billing, and what kind of quantities?
For example, currently we are paying $44/Mbps for a quantity of 250Mbps, so $11k/month for roughly 100TB of transfer.
Does that seem like a really high price?
I just had a quick question, I have been using dedicated servers for a long time now, and I was just looking to host one of my own 1U servers that I have been using at home, now I had a simple question, but it seems to confuse me on what exactly do I pay at the end of the month.
I have read about the 95th percentile billing, and paying for 1Mbps.
I usually had 1000GB with my servers, simple, easy.
All I need to know is if I get 1Mbps, can I not go over that 1Mbps while backing up files, or hosting a game server? or is it that I have a certain amount of bandwidth because this is really confusing me.
Why do seemingly most companies do 95th percentile billing based on a 5 minute polling interval?
Do you think there would be any complaints about basing 95th percentile billing on a 1 minute polling interval?
100mbps can be rather vague at first so I will now try breaking 100mbps, - my question will be near the bottom.
Ive used a conversion calculator to draw this up.
8192 Mbit (Megabits) = 1 GB (GigaByte)
100 Mb (Megabits) = 0.01220703125 (GigaBytes)
So, to reach 1 GB it will take just under 1 min 22 seconds at a rate of 100mbps.
8192 Mbit / 100 Mbit = 81.92 seconds which is 1 min 21.92 seconds.
1 min 21.92 seconds = 1 GB.
My question:
As i am more familiar dealing with Gb's more so than Mbits i have a few questions which i am not so sure about .....
I have a question about 95th percentile billing. Say I have a 6mbit commit. That means I should be getting 2000GB/month. I calculated that if I burst 100mbit until I get 2000GB then do no bandwidth for the rest of the month, I would get charged for 100mbit of commit, is this correct?
Calculations
2000000MB * 8 = 16000000 mbits / 100mbit = 160000 seconds / 60 = 2667 mins / 60 = 44.4
So 44.4 hours of 100mbit equals 2000GB.
Now lets say they take a snapshot every 5 mins.
44.4 hours * 60mins = 2666 / 5 mins per snapshot = 533 snapshots
Now lets find the total number of snapshots in a month.
30 days * 24 hours * 60 minutes / 5 minutes per snapshot = 8640 snapshots
Now we find 95th percentile
8640 * .95 = 8208
8640 - 8208 = 432
So 432 snapshots will be dismissed as burst, but I will have 533 snapshots at 100mbit (as calculated above).
95th percentile...
what is it?
Is it possible to have a 40Mbps 95th percentile, but only push 3TB in a month?
I know 40Mbps=~12,000GB, that's why it doesn't make sense.
Basically provider offers 2000gb bandwidth.
However, at the end of the month they don't look at the total X GB's transfered, they measure it up with 95th percentile.
I know there's a formula involved, but maybe someone can give me some insight on why 95th is for, and the formula of course would help
On the 95th percentile model, I recall reading bursting not calculated for 36 hrs in this model.
In our application, for now, we will only be uploading to the colocation 6 days a week, on a 10 meg upstream - averaging anywhere from 2 hrs nightly to Saturday ....real small upload.
When I look at 95th percentile, I am looking at it that we would be billed at 9Mbps if we were to utilize this billing method as opposed to purchased transit.
some light on the math & or the *36 hr* burstable bandwidth ?
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where to put this code and/or how to install it?
we want to add a billing/bandwidth monotoring software to our dedicated server so that we can keep track of who uses what.
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After sign up i ordered an extra hard disk and a raid card.
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The bandwidth here in Austin is expensive (About $200+ per Mbps) and I have no idea how much I'd need.
Here's a sample of the last 7 days of traffic on one of my servers
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let's say I tell the hosting company to cancel a server 1 day before the billing date but their policy is 2 days. now as you know i am not that tech savvy so it took a bit of time for to transfer all my files from old to new server (keep in mind the new server is still still with this company) .. as a hosting company would you allow me to cancel the server without billing me?
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Hello to all my complaining against theplanet apparently to collect are very good but then you must verify that you leave your card so you make a lio having prepaid card are those that are charged across your bank, the thing that I cancelled the account I am the cancelled without giving me a lot of time and explanation is not fair levied money and then abuse the trust that this company to purchase a dedicated server.
IN SUCH Case thought that if committed a crime because they have demonstrated quite the opposite for being crooks and without any service charge, how I wonder where this money goes ($ 400)?.
I have one server with WSI over 1 month (testing purpose). On Apr 23rd, I asked them to reload Windows Server 2003 Std. They charged $25 OS reload and $25 for Windows license.
On May 01st, I got a new invoice for server fee and $25 for Windows Server 2003 Std license. So, they charged Windows license again.
I contacted their Billing Dept. to correct the invoice so that I can make payment. No one from Billing Dept. responded us. I tried to contact Aaron, who I got server from. Aaron responded us and promised to issue a credit, but I didn't see that. I contacted Aaron again and asking to fix the invoice, but he didn't respond.
On May 10th, I got an overdue notice from their Billing Dept. I contacted them again, but no one responded.
Today, they disconnected my server.
It seems that I'm unable to contact anyone at their Billing Dept.
I can't say that I can recommend CheapVPS's (VAServ) services to anyone. In the end of July, I bought a VPS from them.
Had some initial troubles with the set up - they accidently set up 2 VPS's for me and set the wrong amount of memory, but that was solved by sending a support ticket. Wanted Debian instead of CentOS, another support ticket.
In the end of August, I canceled it - mostly because I didn't need it anymore. However, September already came and I was charged for the VPS. I sent a ticket to their billing department asking for a refund, and they gave it to me, no problem there.
I go on with everyday life, until October comes. I guess I forgot to cancel the PayPal subscription for my VPS because I'm charged for it once again. I promptly cancel the subscription and fire off a support ticket.
This time, they're insanely slow to respond to this. I sent a ticket in on Oct 1. and I get a response on the 8th: they ask me for a PayPal transaction ID. I send it to them, and I haven't received any reply since.
On Oct. 15 I tried adding a new comment to my support ticket, but I still have not received any response.
Today, I try to nag their live chat salesperson and they tell me that they've "added a note on my ticket for the billing department".
I've been a client of fluidhosting for around 2 years.
In terms of support, performance and reliability everything was fine during those years.
Few days ago, on the 14th of march i asked to cancel my account as i wanted to move to a different host because of price issues.
I pay to fluidhosting on monthly basis, each month in advance until the renewal date of the next month.
My renewal date is the 2nd of each month. This means that on the 2/3/09 i paid to fluidhosting until 2/4/09.
On the 14/03/09 , i asked my account to be canceled.
That's where the problems begin...
Fluidhosting says that canceling accounts should be stated --30-- days before the renewal date. This means that you can basically cancel your account ONLY on the day you renew it, and basically, as i see it, they are forcing you to pay for another month.
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I have ihost billing script
1. When I try import accounts from server it takes long time for loading and after that I don't see anything on ihost package and I certainly add package in ihost, you can see this picture:
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2. Also I don't see all accounts on server.
3. When I chose account and submit import it also need long time for loading and after that I have this message:
No payment gateways have been configured. Please configure at least one payment gateway, then try again but I certainly configure payment method:
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I having problem with them particular cancellation.
first, I submit an cancellation form. Then customer service wrote to me to reconsider cancel my server. So I replied my ticket and they also know I having some problem with the server that support department had wrote to me. the next day I managed to solved the problem and replied to them no need their help. A few days later when I log on to the billing system failed due to my e-mail address was not on file. So I wrote the ticket to billing department before THU 9am GMT-5 EST, Friday till sun no responded. So I wrote to support with refer to billing ticket ID and support replied to me most department like billing work only in Mon to Fri 9am to 5pm EST GMT-5. In Monday afternoon, the billing replied said my server is cancel on 07 March 08, no payment due and my billing account closed even my server is still active.
There is nothing I can do about it. If you want detail can check my web site [url]or [url] which the billing department can made this mistake for very long reply time which I not happy wrote to customer service department that I spend a lot of time effort making the server work and also other department for hard work on trying to help me providing better service to me now waiting for their reply.
I decided that you all can look a last minute visit my homepage if not a blink of an eye 7 March 08 my server will be switch off by them.
My contract with Strato-hosting expired three days ago, and two days ago I got an email invoice saying that they had automically renewed my contract for three months. (of which I had no warning) and I owed Ģ53.51. I asked to cancel and they claimed it could only be done at the end of the new three month contract, which would defeat the object of cancellation, because I would still have to pay the bill.
Are they legally allowed to bill me for hosting I neither want nor can afford?
Also, as a last resort, their T&C's say that if you use their hosting for porn they will terminate the contract without notice. If I were to do that, do you think I wouldn't have to pay? I really am desperate here.
I purchased a dedicated server from Iweb back in October, I was paying 134.00 a month, no setup, etc.. After 3 weeks, I decide that a dedicated server is not what I need, and cancel. I attempt to cancel, and basically have to deal with my account manager only, as no one on Live Chat, etc.. can help me for whatever reason. Iweb has a 30 day money back guarantee, I have been waiting nearly 4 weeks for a refund. During this time, I have been getting overdue notices as well as today getting an invoice that I had a "Successful Payment" to Iweb for 134.00$ (the cost of my monthly service.)
I have been in constant contact with my Iweb manager, who is "very disappointed" in the accounting department and will process the refund immediately. Now, he is going to "talk to his boss," to get things sped up.
Today, I log in to web chat to talk to him, and he is "busy," and will call me when the refund is complete.
All in all, the actual web service was good with Iweb, however, their business practices are the worst I have seen thus far. Everything is this round-about procedure which is painful to deal with.
My philosophy is, if I can pay YOU for your services immediately to get started, then YOU can pay ME just as quick. It wasnt like I could get my dedicated server started with a "I'll pay you as soon as accounting writes you check in a few weeks." Extend the same courtesy to me.
Last year I tested out 1&1 for registering two domains. What a mistake.
DNS propagation takes forever. Namecheap and godaddy propagate within minutes.
My experience with billing has been unnerving.
I moved my domains away from 1&1 before the year was up. I was still billed for the renewal. I phoned 1&1 and received an email that my account was canceled & credited.
Low and behold today I received a notice from NCO Financial Systems, a collection agency that 1&1 uses, stating I owe $6.99 plus $18.95 in fees.
Going back over my records (I save everything) I see that the Credit memo I received (as an email attachment) was for only one of the domains. Yes they had billed me for the two domains even though they had been transfered away.
Thus the $6.99 allegedly still owed them.
Today I phoned customer service and explained the situation. The rep seen the invoice (on my account) for the two domains and only the one credit memo yet could not figure out what to do. I explained the situation to him three times clearly and he would take no action. I asked for a supervisor and none could be found. I will have to call back or have them call me.
He said they would not be able to credit my account for the NCO fees of $18.95 for the $6.99 they BILLED ME IN ERROR!
I am waiting to call back to speak with a supervisor.
In my eleven years of hosting this the lamest company I have dealt with. Even dreamhost had better customer service.
Recently noticed this new product from Plesk, that looks like Modernbill, so I was wondering if anybody is currently using it.
If so, would you recommend to have installed it a VPS?
How much does it cost?