Bandwidth :: 95th Percentile Billing, And Paying For 1Mbps?
Jun 3, 2008
I just had a quick question, I have been using dedicated servers for a long time now, and I was just looking to host one of my own 1U servers that I have been using at home, now I had a simple question, but it seems to confuse me on what exactly do I pay at the end of the month.
I have read about the 95th percentile billing, and paying for 1Mbps.
I usually had 1000GB with my servers, simple, easy.
All I need to know is if I get 1Mbps, can I not go over that 1Mbps while backing up files, or hosting a game server? or is it that I have a certain amount of bandwidth because this is really confusing me.
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Dec 19, 2008
Just curious about what kind of pricing people have been able to get when going for 95th percentile billing, and what kind of quantities?
For example, currently we are paying $44/Mbps for a quantity of 250Mbps, so $11k/month for roughly 100TB of transfer.
Does that seem like a really high price?
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Jan 24, 2007
Why do seemingly most companies do 95th percentile billing based on a 5 minute polling interval?
Do you think there would be any complaints about basing 95th percentile billing on a 1 minute polling interval?
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Jan 1, 2009
100mbps can be rather vague at first so I will now try breaking 100mbps, - my question will be near the bottom.
Ive used a conversion calculator to draw this up.
8192 Mbit (Megabits) = 1 GB (GigaByte)
100 Mb (Megabits) = 0.01220703125 (GigaBytes)
So, to reach 1 GB it will take just under 1 min 22 seconds at a rate of 100mbps.
8192 Mbit / 100 Mbit = 81.92 seconds which is 1 min 21.92 seconds.
1 min 21.92 seconds = 1 GB.
My question:
As i am more familiar dealing with Gb's more so than Mbits i have a few questions which i am not so sure about .....
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May 25, 2008
I have a question about 95th percentile billing. Say I have a 6mbit commit. That means I should be getting 2000GB/month. I calculated that if I burst 100mbit until I get 2000GB then do no bandwidth for the rest of the month, I would get charged for 100mbit of commit, is this correct?
Calculations
2000000MB * 8 = 16000000 mbits / 100mbit = 160000 seconds / 60 = 2667 mins / 60 = 44.4
So 44.4 hours of 100mbit equals 2000GB.
Now lets say they take a snapshot every 5 mins.
44.4 hours * 60mins = 2666 / 5 mins per snapshot = 533 snapshots
Now lets find the total number of snapshots in a month.
30 days * 24 hours * 60 minutes / 5 minutes per snapshot = 8640 snapshots
Now we find 95th percentile
8640 * .95 = 8208
8640 - 8208 = 432
So 432 snapshots will be dismissed as burst, but I will have 533 snapshots at 100mbit (as calculated above).
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Dec 4, 2007
95th percentile...
what is it?
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Jul 16, 2009
Is it possible to have a 40Mbps 95th percentile, but only push 3TB in a month?
I know 40Mbps=~12,000GB, that's why it doesn't make sense.
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Mar 18, 2008
Basically provider offers 2000gb bandwidth.
However, at the end of the month they don't look at the total X GB's transfered, they measure it up with 95th percentile.
I know there's a formula involved, but maybe someone can give me some insight on why 95th is for, and the formula of course would help
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Jul 31, 2009
On the 95th percentile model, I recall reading bursting not calculated for 36 hrs in this model.
In our application, for now, we will only be uploading to the colocation 6 days a week, on a 10 meg upstream - averaging anywhere from 2 hrs nightly to Saturday ....real small upload.
When I look at 95th percentile, I am looking at it that we would be billed at 9Mbps if we were to utilize this billing method as opposed to purchased transit.
some light on the math & or the *36 hr* burstable bandwidth ?
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Dec 5, 2008
I have Munin running on my Centos 5.2 box, but would like the 95th percentile calculations. I have found this page for an add on:
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where to put this code and/or how to install it?
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Aug 31, 2006
I been looking for a new switch to use, that have few features that ProCurve switches do not have, which is namely the port bandwidth management that I can manage by controlling the bandwidth traffic by Megabit increment. Plus, anti-dos features would be nice as well.
I know that Extreme Networks have that features in 24/48 port 1U factors, but I am looking for feedback from others who knows of other switches that have that feature as well. Your input is appreciated.
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Sep 11, 2008
we want to add a billing/bandwidth monotoring software to our dedicated server so that we can keep track of who uses what.
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Jan 1, 2008
I have a collocated server that bills by GB. Currently I have 1000GB a month to use, and I use nearly all of it. I will be purchasing a new server, and I'm thinking about sending it to Colo4Dallas over my current provider. How do I figure out if a 1mbps plan will serve my needs?
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Apr 6, 2009
I have a 1Mbps Upload speed and My download speed is max 24Mbps.
My question was, what can i run with the above mentioned speeds?
I tried running a Game Server but had quite a bit of latency, so i gave up!
What else can i run on such a speed?
I did previously have an ADSL2+ Annex M connection with 3Mbps Upload and 20Mbps Download, it was expensive and useless as i had no use for extra speed, was just experimenting.
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Sep 20, 2009
how much people are paying for bandwidth? Only colo's please, also if you have a commit how many mbits is it?
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Feb 2, 2009
I have read numerous reviews about hosting providers, and think that HostGator (either hatchling or baby) plans suit my needs. However I have a couple of questions:
1) As I'm based in the UK, is it going to be more expensive to pay for hosting that is based in the US? (I don't mean caused by exchange rate changes...I'm happy with their charges)
2) Is there a better way to pay i.e. monthly/annually or via debit card, credit card or paypal? (are there any conversion charges etc.)
Ideally I'd like someone who is paying for US hosting from the UK (with Hostgator if possible) to tell me how they do it and why they chose to do it that way.
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Sep 22, 2008
I ran across something the other day that made me think about things. A host is offering to give you a $3.00 credit on the next invoice if you post a review. They list the site and all, and I was wondering what you guys thought about that.
On one hand, offering a credit, taints the review, or makes it biased. On the other hand, I know how important reviews are for a host.
Personally, I think it would be ok to ask for reviews, but I don't think it's ok to offer a credit or money for it.
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Aug 8, 2007
I run a web hosting company by colocating my servers with a local data center. I think I am paying too much.
Right now I am paying $500/month per 1 mbps average transfer.
I've been shopping around and found other providers in the area that offer $1 per MB. Figuring 350 MB per month = 1 mbps sustained, that would be $350/month for the same bandwidth.
What I don't understand is how so many reputable competing web hosting providers offer hosting packages with numbers like 2000 MB/month for $399!
How can they offer accounts with this much bandwidth? I could never do this at the colo prices I'm getting.
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Jun 9, 2008
I am considering signing up for a very well-received host on this site and around the net. It is DowntownHost. They have a promotion right now where you can get 25% off for life. They have tiered plans. So you if you pay for 1, 2 or 3 years upfront, for example, you will be paying *a lot* less per month than if you paid just monthly. Add in this 25% off promotion, and you can see some big savings.
Now, for most hosts that you haven't tried, I would say no way commit your money for a year. But DowntownHost's reputation precedes them so well, this could be an exception.
Plus, they have a 90-day money back guarantee where you would get all your money back if you don't like the service.
So my thinking is that I should no whether or not I am going to stick with a host within 90 days. That is plenty of time. But, then again, your money is tied up for 1, 2 or 3 years after that 90 days, and if something goes wrong, you are up a creek without a paddle. Plus, I have heard (in general, not with DowntownHost specifically), that your support level could decrease after your trial period if you have paid for an extended plan because, well, they have your money, so what do they care.
What are people's opinion on this?
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Aug 19, 2008
I have a fully managed dedicated server on hostdime.com, currently hosting a very popular auto blog on Brazil, using Wordpress and with around 25.000 unique visitors per day.
I would like to know if the price i am paying (US$ 345.00) per month seems fair and correct.
The initial price was US$ 250.00, but i have added a second drive and 2 GB of RAM, ending up with this configuration:
Processor: 2 x Dual Intel Xeon Woodcrest 1.8GHz 4M L2 Cache
Memory: 4096 MB DDR (upgradable to 12GB)
Hard Drive 1: 250 Gigabyte SATA (7200 RPM)
Hard Drive 2: 120 Gigabyte SATA (7200 RPM)
Monthly Bandwidth: 2000 Gigabytes
IP Addresses: 4
Uplink Speed: 100 Mbit/s
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May 22, 2007
How do you deal with off-site backups on a colo machine billed at 2 Mbps 95 percentile?
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I have sign up for a dedicated server with netdepot in the beginning of the year.
After sign up i ordered an extra hard disk and a raid card.
It was not installed as i was expecting and i ordered a 3 rd hard disk.
The overall installation procedure took some days.
The nightmare is the billing.
I had used a special price with a special discount.
The first billing came without the special price.
The second billing came without the special price and without the special discount.
They forget to charge the 3rd hard disk. I had to remember them to be able to pay for it.
They have double charged the 2nd hard disk and the raid card.
They have refunded it.
2 months after the 3rd disk has been payed they are still asking for the money in spite of all the payments have been done from the same paypal account.
The first payments were not possible to be done by their billing interface which lead to a blank page.
Some of the first tickets opened came blank to me.
In some cases i had to clean the cookies to see something and in other cases that was not enough.
Beware of their billing department.
Diana in particular has asked me 3 times for the payment that was already done. The payment was done after i have remembered them that i have a 3rd hard disk and correct by email by 2 or 3 times the amount to be charged.
I pay after all is clear but 2 months later they were asking again for the same money.
I think that they donīt keep proper records of the received amounts.
They didnīt apologize for the mess.
Just one word of regard for Sailor with whom i have made the purchase agreement and that has at all the times helpfull on solving the things with his company.
The server is nice and the price was ok as well but in 4 years in hosting business i never found such a messy billing department.
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I'm really confused about burstable billing. I'm hoping you guys can help me out.
I'm currently with Softlayer and I have two dedicated servers with 2TB of bandwidth a month. So far this has been fine for me.
I'm getting ready to move to a third server and therefore I'm looking at colo space. The problem is that they all seem to charge by the Mbps instead of by the overall bandwidth you use.
The bandwidth here in Austin is expensive (About $200+ per Mbps) and I have no idea how much I'd need.
Here's a sample of the last 7 days of traffic on one of my servers
Any idea how much bandwidth I'd need? Also, are these colos just screwing with me? Should I be able to find a plan that charges me by overall bandwidth instead of using bustable billing?
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"Outstanding payment of order no. 1147502.
As of 12/6/08, we have not received payment for the amount outstanding
on your order.
In order not to burden you with further costs, we ask that you pay the
amount as soon as possible. We draw your attention to the fact that you
may incur further costs if the amount is not paid by 12/21/08.
Item description: Amount in GBP:
Balance due for order GBP 22.09
Reminder charge (invoice number 2671362) GBP 10.00
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New total balance due GBP 32.09"
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