VPS Providers: How Many Clients Do You Get Per Month
Aug 21, 2008
I was just wondering how fast does it take for a VPS business to reach a certain number of clients.
I'm sure there are lots of variables, like how long the company is in business, what sort of product the company is providing, the market it is targeting, and more, but just elaborate as much as you want, or just ball park it.
For my application I needed a few low end VPS in mulitply locations. The requirements are quite simple: Linux, 128Mb RAM or more, low cost, various locations, no need for control panels just ssh will do.
During this week I've ordered nearly 20 VPS from a bunch of providers. For benefit of WHT public here is a short information on my experience with these providers so far.
1. thenynoc
ordered 2 VPS, one in NY one in LA, set up is not instant, but reasonably quick. I am not happy with the network in both locations, high packet loss for some operations. I guess this is due to some wierd VPS settings/limitations they use. I have not contacted them about it yet. So far, no other issues. Good price.
2. mosso (Rackable)
Nice low cost VPS in the cloud setting. Location not specified, but looks like Dalls, TX. Instant setup, everything works, great network, hourly billing. IMO in 3 years VPS hosting as we know it now will be forgotten and everyhing will be done 'one the cloud'.
3. euvps
ordered 1 VPS, location Germany. Not instant but reasonably quick setup. Time on the system is almost 5 minutes off. Having correct time on the system is important for my application. I am talking about time not timezone. It is usually impossible to change time from within VPS and it is therefore responsibility of the VPS provider to run properly configured ntpd on the host. I've sent a support request asking to fix the time, no response yet, but less than an hour passed so far, I'll wait.
3. rapidswitch
Ordered 1 VPS, location London, UK. Great experience so far, simple to use website not a cookie cutter WHMC , everything just works, instant setup, good network. I used 1£/month promotion, the price reverts to 7.5£ per month in June which seems a bit pricey.
4. vpsville got a 64MB VPS from them, location Toronto, CA. Wow, turned out my application works 64MB. Quick setup, no issues. So far, so good.
5. slicebox
VPS location - Chicago. Quick setup. no issues. So far so good.
6. xeneurope
got a VPS in Amsterdam. It took about 8 hours to get VPS activated. The system subjectively feels very slow or maybe it is just XEN so bad for low memory VPS. With 128 MB specs, something takes all the memory and it is not my applications or daemons I can control. I had lots of trouble simply installing cpan modules on this system which was failing all the time due to lack memory/swap. However, I managed to install my stuff and how things work. Other XEN machines I had with 128 MB allocation usually give me at least 100 meg for my stuff. It is worse here. I am looking for another VPS provider in Amsterdam.
7. 1gb.ru VPS location, Moscow, Russia. This is the only VPS provider I could find in Russia with resonable prices and accepting normal credit cards as payment method. They do only Ubuntu, so I had to use it, not my usual CentOS. They have some wierd self coded control panel, the setup is a bit wierd. For example, to get access to VPS I had to first ssh into their gateway system, which dropped me into my vps shell as root. Than I had to install sshd and set things up so that I can access my VPS using ssh in a normal way. Come on... this is more complicated that it needs to be. But, well, in the end of the day I have a VPS and it working. No issues and I am happy so far. One observation, as far as Linux VPS hosting is concerned Russians are still living in the stone age. FreeBSD based VDS thingy from ispserver is very popular there, though, maybe that's why.
8. gplhost
Aparently it is run by the people developing an open source control panel for XEN. Big plus for them is their geographical diversity, I've ordered VPS located in Kuala-Lumpur, Sydney, Singapore, Barcelona, Haifa.
The price I paid is at least double of what I'd like to pay plus rip off Paypal fees on top of advertised rate. Hey VPS providers, take a hint! Is it that difficult to rent a decent dedicated/colocated server somewhere except a dozen DC in US and sell VPS for a premium? A market niche is here!
Back to gplhost.com. Again, a bit wierd and quirky setup, but does the job done. VPS are activated instantly. Things just work. In the end of the day I am happy (but counting pennies).
9. vixile ordered VPS located in Tampa, FL. Nice quick setup no problems whatsoever. Good price. Good job. I am happy.
10. zanyhost AKA wickedvps
Ordered a VPS located in Atlanta, not instant but reasonably quick VPS setup. However, somehow after I ordered from nanihost the VPS turned up from wickedvps.com . Come on.. get a name and stick to it, stop confusing me :-)
Time on their system was off by about 90 seconds. Created a ticket asking to fix it. 7 Hours later got a response saying that time on their servers is correct and that they use some specific timezone. It is implying that I was was wrong and they time on their system was indeed correct at the time and I just mixed up timezones. I've checked and indeed the time is correct now, hopefully they not just set up correct time but installed ntpd to keep it correct. Well.. I can live with that. However, it all appears to be a bit childish and amateurish. RTFM on ntpd before you start selling VPS to people not after! Please do not get offended, get things sorted and move on, or you customers will.
11. myprohost
got VPS in Denver. Nice and easy no problem so far.
9. Bad apples:
quillhost - order placed and paid for more than 36 hours ago nanihost - order placed and paid for more than 36 hours ago hitme.net.pl - order placed and paid for more than 36 hours ago
I have not heard from them yet. Is it take money and run or are they just that slow? I do not know yet. Hello! Anyone there! If it takes you that long to set up a VPS, the tasks others can do in seconds, how long it will take you to give a less trivial support if required? Work with me people!
This is it, hope it will help someone and wont get anyone infuriated. Obviously this review is quite limited in scope due to short timewrame and simple requirements I had.
I am using these VPS, as a distributed DNS network. Netwisp's and Myraid Networks vps are also used to filter exim dictionary attacks off server.
1.) Myraid Network - 10/10 Myraid network is an awesome company to deal with. The vps was setup extremely fast and, I had no issues from the get go. To this date, I have not received any downtime. The staff is very friendly and willing to help with any issue. I just wish I had an issue to send to them Everything has been flawless. This is a virtuozzo VPS. I fully recommend this host.
2.) Netwisp - 10/10 This is another great host. Hal definately knows what hes doing with virtuozzo, everything has been running flawless. I have received no downtime, other then a scheduled maintenance that I was fully notified about in advance. This is the second time having a vps with this company, and I am glad to say both times have been excellent. I fully recommend this host.
3.) ProVPS - 10/10 This is a xen host this time. Very well ran company. They have their own XEN panel that is absolutely the best one on the market. You definately get more control over your vps specifics then other hosts in my opinion... Did I mention to you... its flawless? No downtime here either. The vps is also very speedy considering its their cheap plan. I fully recommend this host.
There you have it folks... Take it from a seasoned hosting veteran...Stop dealing with poorly ran companies, choose one of these to be your next host. Your headaches will go away.
My website suspended by a hosting service provider they told me that I try to send some spamming emails, the details about my website it's very small with 282 users (before suspended) I used phpBB version 2 and send news to users with phpBB send mail function. Frequency of sending is not more than 2 times a month and not every month.
I've already contacted the hosting provider they didn't help anything just say "Hold on" for 1 day a ago.
I've signed up with Wiredtree for a Managed VPS 12 days ago.
I know it's not enough time to write a review. But I decided to write my first impression then keep you updated by writing a new review at the end of each month, so expect one at 12 February.
For now, these guys are simply the best I've tried.
They reply you in 15 minutes or less and if it took them more, 20 minutes or something, then be sure that they're investigating your problem. If you can't wait for 15 minutes, then go ahead and give them a call on their toll-free number and they'll be with you second by second. Their support wont just solve your problem, but they'll educate you telling you what caused the problem and how did they fix it.
I'm solicitous about security. But with these guys, I finally sleep peacefully knowing that my VPS is well secured.
I will soon be meeting a few people who plan on selling their clients to me that are currently hosting with them.
I have never bought/sold clients before and would like some guidance from the community here on WHT.
Correct me if im wrong.
I should consider purchasing those clients who's contracts are going to expire soon, preferably within the next 6 months atleast?
Should i or should i not purchase clients who they have recently taken a renewal fee from that will last for atleast another 6 months?
How will calculate on what prices they should be selling their clients to me for? Are they going to add up a years worth of hosting before they set a final sale price? At the end of the day i dont want to take on clients who have already paid for their hosting and wont be expiring anytime soon. I think, if i take them on board now they will be using up my hosting resources at my expense which i will have to wait until their next renewal is due.
The guys i will be buying the clients from have their current hosting plans as follows:
Monthly prices range from £1.90 £5.00 £9.50 £15.50,
Yearly prices range from £19.00 £50.00 £95.00 £155.00
Depending on what packages their clients are on now, how much do you think on average 5 clients would be worth roughly?
Before i purchase what else do i need to look into?
What other questions do i need to ask other than the likelihood of how long they expect their clients to stay with them/(me).
I did an FTP of a high res photo to a client. They got it fine.
Today I tried to FTP several of my various files to another client. However, it would not go through. Both times I uploaded them to my web hosting service. But when I tried to send several files at one time it did not work. I even tried zipping them.
is there any other good ftp clients beside lftp and ncftp to transfer a whole directory for CentOS4?
I can't get lftp passive mode behind firewall working, it's stuck at [Making data connection...] and there is some problems with ncftp as well, and centos4 is no longer supported too..
How do you deal with your clients in reguards to hosting. Its just I have a couple of jobs coming up. Do you host them yourself or just point them into the right direction of a good host and use them?
Just stopped at the site of photonvps.com and got to know the company offers attractive VPS being narrowly specialized.
Nut really this is the very first time I hear of the host, and I need to know If anybody has experience or knows someting if this provider, to help me making a decision.
I would like to know about cirtexhosting company from its clients. I found this company attarctive by the offered deals, and currently I am looking for somebody to tell me if this company is really worth of getting an account from. I mean how's their shared hosting quality? The pre sales support looks to be fast and informative, but how about customer support?
I've been developing websites for clients on and off for about 5 years. I've recently gotten more serious about developing as my client base is growing. So, as I get more clients I develop sites for I need to figure out where to host the sites.
So, the question is VPS, Dedicated, or Shared. How do I compete with companies that charge $6.99 for so much data transfer and storage?
Are you also getting a complete lack of service and customer support?
I have not heard a darn thing from them since they got hacked and now I have only about 25% uptime! But yet, I am still paying for the 99% uptime they promise!
We're having a small problem with one of our Ventrilo boxes (Linux) that seems to be blocking users from connecting. The DC (The Planet) is reporting that the issue is likely with the user and my tech is also saying the same thing. I have reason to believe they're both wrong but wanted to see if anyone had any ideas.
Here are 3 tracert's that show normal activity until the user reaches the DC network and then they can't reach our server.
All 3 of these are from different users experiencing the exact same problem.
Tracing route to ca.13.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.19.202] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 2 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 70 ms 72 ms 24 ms 68.86.105.193 4 127 ms * 13 ms 10g-9-3-ur02.longmont.co.denver.comcast.net [68. 86.103.157] 5 103 ms 87 ms 66 ms 10g-9-1-ur01.longmont.co.denver.comcast.net [68. 86.103.161] 6 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms 10g-3-1-ar01.denver.co.denver.comcast.net [68.86 .103.154] 7 9 ms 9 ms 23 ms 68.86.103.150 8 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 12.125.159.89 9 45 ms 42 ms 33 ms tbr2-p013702.dvmco.ip.att.net [12.123.207.150] 10 31 ms 34 ms 126 ms tbr2-cl33.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.125] 11 145 ms 32 ms 31 ms gar1-p3100.dlrtx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.165] 12 38 ms 32 ms 31 ms 12.119.136.14 13 30 ms 34 ms 32 ms te7-1.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.18] 14 34 ms 32 ms 30 ms vl41.dsr01.dllstx4.theplanet.com [70.85.127.83] 15 59 ms 142 ms 48 ms gi1-0-2.car02.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.19.255.1 34] 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out.
Tracing route to ca.13.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.19.202] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 8 ms 7 ms 10 ms 73.96.20.1 3 9 ms * 7 ms GE-2-37-ur01.aberdeen.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68 .86.98.9] 4 9 ms 13 ms * te-5-2-ur01.olympia.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.8 6.96.6] 5 11 ms * 12 ms te-8-4-ar01.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86 .96.10] 6 14 ms 19 ms 14 ms 12.116.25.13 7 69 ms 69 ms 70 ms tbr1011401.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.111.6] 8 72 ms 76 ms 74 ms tbr2-cl10.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.12.113] 9 73 ms 66 ms 67 ms tbr1-cl30.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.9.137] 10 67 ms 68 ms 69 ms tbr1-cl3.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.26] 11 70 ms 67 ms 67 ms tbr1-cl20.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.10.49] 12 67 ms 68 ms 67 ms gar1-p340.dlrtx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.161] 13 65 ms 66 ms 65 ms 12.119.136.14 14 66 ms 66 ms 65 ms te9-1.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.22] 15 68 ms 67 ms 68 ms vl42.dsr02.dllstx4.theplanet.com [70.85.127.91] 16 67 ms 66 ms 66 ms gi1-0-1.car02.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.19.255.6 ] 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out.
1 9 ms 5 ms 7 ms 73.101.80.1 2 7 ms 7 ms * GE-2-37-ur01.gigharbor.wa.seattle.comcast.net [6 86.99.9] 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 13 ms 9 ms 11 ms 12.117.243.13 5 64 ms 66 ms 64 ms 12.127.6.50 6 67 ms 67 ms 273 ms tbr2-cl10.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.12.113] 7 67 ms 73 ms 69 ms tbr1-cl30.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.9.137] 8 66 ms 66 ms 65 ms tbr1-cl3.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.26] 9 68 ms 64 ms 63 ms tbr1-cl20.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.10.49] 0 67 ms 70 ms 66 ms gar1-p340.dlrtx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.161] 1 70 ms 68 ms 67 ms 12.119.136.14 2 72 ms 69 ms 66 ms te9-1.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.22] 3 63 ms 65 ms 65 ms vl42.dsr02.dllstx4.theplanet.com [70.85.127.91] 4 69 ms 75 ms 69 ms gi1-0-1.car02.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.19.255.6 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * * Request timed out. 0 * * * Request timed out.
I am trying to find a good solution for email. I use a Linux based server running CestOS, WHM and cpanel. I absolutely hate the webmail clients that come with cpanel (horde, squirrel mail, neomail) so I use outlook instead. Problem is, I use the same email between different computers and end up getting the same messages twice. This does not seem to matter if I use pop3 or IMAP; I still get the same emails in both places.
What I would like to see is a possibility of a mail client that is either web based, or something I can add to my server that allows me to take advantage on IMAP - and have it work like it is supposed to. I like the functionality of pop3 in outlook because it allows you to easily delete and maintain a clean inbox.
I have a client who had me redesign his bands website which is currently hosted at 1and1.com. I've never dealt with them before, so I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are on them. So far the technical support has been giving us a hard time retrieving the cpanel password which is different from the ftp. Other then that, is this a reliable host for a band selling there music, or would I be better off switching to another host such as jaguarpc.com?
I have 20 clients who are on different networks and countries but all of the sudden their IP's are keep getting black list in spamhause, CBL, dsbl etc and they can not send email i am so very tired of this,
I have been researching i3d.net as a dedicated provider.
I have searched the archives and in order to take a final decision I would like to kindly ask some current clients and even past clients of i3d.net to share some insight on the quality of this provider and it's network.
I have been using Vista 32-bit with FileZilla for 2-years on this computer. I haven't made any recent changes to my system, but suddently NO FTP clients work.
I tried FileZilla and FireFTP (firefox extension). Neither can connect. FileZilla just gives a timeout error. FireFTP has been "connecting" for 5-minutes. No success.
I tried to bypass my Linksys router and go directly through my cable model. They still do not work.
I *CAN* connect to an FTP site using telnet command.
One of my clients is under a bandwidth attack in the past few days. He went from 6000 "hits" (file requests, not users) on his site Monday to over 11,400,000 for the day yesterday (Friday). Today's just further escalation.
His site usually does about 2-6 GB traffic a month, and he's now over 450 GB for the month of December as of earlier today (being Dec 6th - 6 days into the month). The traffic is from (or if using proxies, appears to be from) multiple residential IPs - with over 90 simultaneous users on the site at any given time.
First they were hitting a particular image, and when access to that image was removed, they've just been hitting the home page since.
Besides taking his site offline, any thoughts here on how to keep him online? I discussed with him moving to his own dedicated 10mbps/unmetered system - but with the escalation here, I'd imagine they'd use up all that bandwidth in short order as well.
Any experience on how long these attacks generally continue? All I can think is that he's hurting a competitor who is now using this as a tactic to cripple the online business/success/etc. This business (for the types of products they sell) for the most part is pretty small though, and I can't imagine one of the competitors really has the knowledge on how to do this themselves - or even coordinate it themselves (or they'd be in another business making more $$$). If they're not coordinating it themselves, any idea on how much it might be costing the competitor to have someone else coordinate such an attack?
I'm going to be hosting my clients websites and I was wondering how to calculate how much bandwidth / space I should make available to clients and also how much to charge for hosting / maintenance.
I am a host reseller and the parent company is upgrading their servers to PHP5. This may break some of my clients' sites (OSCommerce, Zen). Should we fix those sites for free or should my clients pay for the upgrade?
Im currently running cent0S 5. I recently just installed Squid Version 2.6.STABLE6 for a client to enable him to use as proxy. However it seems that sites like whatismyip.com and ipchicken.com are resolving back to my clients IP address and not the servers.
There is only one IP on my server and I think the problem may deal with X-Headers? (correct me if I am wrong)
Is there any way to use the server IP address for when my customer is using the proxy server.
My squid.conf looks like the following: Code: Code: http_port 8080 forwarded_for off icp_port 0 cache_mem 64 MB cache_dir ufs /var/spool/squid 100 16 128 maximum_object_size 4096 KB cache_store_log none cache_access_log /var/log/squid/access.log hierarchy_stoplist cgi-bin ? acl QUERY urlpath_regex cgi-bin ? no_cache deny QUERY visible_hostname proxyserver acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 acl manager proto cache_object acl localhost src xxx.xx.xxx.xxx acl SSL_ports port 443 563 10000 acl Safe_ports port 80 acl Safe_ports port 21 acl Safe_ports port 443 563 acl Safe_ports port 70 acl Safe_ports port 210 acl Safe_ports port 1025-65535 acl Safe_ports port 280 acl Safe_ports port 488 acl Safe_ports port 591 acl Safe_ports port 777 acl Safe_ports port 901 acl purge method PURGE acl CONNECT method CONNECT acl LocalNet src xxx.xx.xxx.xx http_access allow manager localhost http_access deny manager http_access allow purge localhost http_access deny purge http_access deny !Safe_ports http_access deny CONNECT !SSL_ports http_access allow localhost http_access allow LocalNet http_access deny all icp_access allow all log_fqdn on ##### This side is to make the proxy tranparency #httpd_accel_with_proxy on #httpd_accel_uses_host_header on #httpd_accel_host virtual #httpd_accel_port 80 ######------------------------------ error_directory /usr/share/squid/errors/English #httpd_accel_uses_host_header off #anonymize_headers deny From Referer Server forwarded_for on http_port ServerIP:8080 transparent
# no forwarded quite useless for an anonymizer forwarded_for off # no client stat client_db off
# Paranoid anonymize header_access Allow allow all header_access Authorization allow all header_access Cache-Control allow all header_access Content-Encoding allow all header_access Content-Length allow all header_access Content-Type allow all header_access Date allow all header_access Expires allow all header_access Host allow all header_access If-Modified-Since allow all header_access Last-Modified allow all header_access Location allow all header_access Pragma allow all header_access Accept allow all header_access Charset allow all header_access Accept-Encoding allow all header_access Accept-Language allow all header_access Content-Language allow all header_access Mime-Version allow all header_access Retry-After allow all header_access Title allow all header_access Connection allow all header_access Proxy-Connection allow all header_access All deny all header_access Cookie allow all header_access Set-Cookie allow all header_replace User-Agent Anonymous Proxy at example.com