I currently have a VPS host that, for the past 45 days or so, has delivered an average of 66% uptime. The best results are 75% and the worst are 50%. I'm still waiting for an official response from the company so I'm not including any names. But I do have sites at Dreamhost and Hostgator and they're reporting 99% and 100% respectively.
Is it normal for VPS hosts to have lower uptime? Or is this just the result of a bad server or cluster?
Note: I have about 10 sites on the VPS host and all report the same results. Dreamhost has about 3 sites and Hostgator has 1.
I`ve been using virpus for 6 months and support was always terrible but uptime was good.
I`ve never been able to login to hypervm which i`ve supposed to login, when i open a ticket regarding this they always forward the ticket to so called management department which in fact do nothing at all.
If you`re looking a vps provider with no support but good uptime then choose virpus but if you`re looking for little bit support then stay away from them.
I signed up for a reselelr account and uploaded phpsysinfo to check hardware / load etc. Is it normal for a FreeBSD to be online without reboot for almost 2 years? What about security patches etc. Do you think it is secure? I know FreeBSD is the one of the most secure operating systems out there.
Windows need reboot after an update. And maybe some linux os require the same (or I am wrong, they need to be rebooted only after kernel upgrades).
On apr 10th, I ordered 1 month of 3dg's $20 vps plan..
I asked about paying through paypal, and they said that they would setup the account, and charge me 'later'
on somewhere around may 5th~7th, I turned off auto-renew through their control panel..
since then, I forgot about the vps, and went ahead with my life, etc.
but today.. I get in my email a $40 PayPal invoice, charging me for apr11~june11 ...
I turned off auto renew before may10, which was the expire date for the plan.. but it now appears it has not been canceled.
I have never used their service after may 10... and I never enabled auto renew, but set it to disabled ...
now, they are charging me $40, which is complete.. BS. they have renewed my account against my will, and they want me to pay for it.. and they are threatening me to take 'legal action'. should I decide not to pay $40...
don't trust 3dghosting.. they will renew your account w/o your consent, and charge you. if you don't give into their demands, they will contact debt collection agency, and contact credit bureaus..
don't trust 3dghosting.. they are ignorant people. I can pretty much imagine the big "WE CHARGE CUSTOMERS AT OUR WILL, AND WE MAKE THEM PAY NO MATTER WHAT" image as their background display for their computers...
Rackspace Ticket support is terrible. They have let me down three times already in 3 different separate occasions. If I had known they were this bad I would have never had signed a 24 month contract with them. If you want up time go with rackspace, if you want service...well go somewhere else.
My server has been down for over 4 hours now. They have site URL monitoring service however that doesn't do any good. All it does is inform you that your website is down...they don't actually try to fix the situation! So I sent them a ticket right away. About 3 hours later I have not gotten an update so I call them. After a couple of minutes they tell me it is a ddos attack and they can't help me. They banned a couple ip addresses if you call that help.
Now I am requesting more information from them and probably won't get a response until the morning. Total down time is 4 hours and 55 Minutes and counting...
On 2-nd of May I have ordered a server in uk2.net... I have needed a custom configuration with 4x SATA HDD RAID0, so I have ordered a following package: Bronze server 4 ports RAID 4xsata 80G RAID0 configuration no control panel 3 ip 100 Mbit restricted to 10000 GB pm
for three months for + Subtotal 728.70 + VAT 17.5% 127.52 + Total (GBP) 856.22
Not only that I had to wait for installation for 10 days. I am still ready to understand it, considering a non-standard configuration and holidays. But then more interesting things started to happen...
The server has been established with incorrect partitioning though I obviously specified desirable in correspondence with their support before the order. I had to wait again, until everything was fixed. Then the server started crashing few times a day with the message "i/o error". The reference to support did not fix a situation. They told, that it looks like a bad cable and it was replaced, but in few hours the situation has repeated... I wrote them again and ask for refund. They offer me reinstall of server on new drives and told that their billing department works Monday-Friday and they will come back to me ASAP. I didn't wish to wait for reinstall, I didn't wish to deal with this company anymore, too much problems from the beginning.
On Monday (May,19) there was no answer fom billing and I've sent ticket for a refund to them direcly. But they just ignores it. I wrote and called them multiple times on a last 10 days period! No adequate answer. On the phone they send from one to another, then tell, that 3-rd is not on a place at the moment, wait, we shall call you... I have called to them again today (4th? 5th try?), but they starts asking me again what's a problem, whether i sent ticket to support...And finally told me to call later. I've sent a mail to Ditlev aka Eming on Friday, but there were still no answer. It's closed loop...
I've lost enough time and money, and now I have good serv from another company.
I would never go to UK2.net again. I advise to all to keep from them far-far away.
Company: JustEdge.Net (Rack Vibe) Length of time with provider: 1 Month Industry: Game Server Provider
We were looking to expand to the east coast with a reliable server provider with good prices. We thought we found a home at JustEdge.Net
We requested a test ip before signing up and we pinged / trace routed to it for about 10 days. Pings were stable, low and never seen any loss. Well we decided to sign up and on the first day we noticed we were having problems already.
The network our server was connected to - the ping varied greatly. It would be 18 then jump to 200 and go back down. We were dropping packets all over the place. Well we opened a support ticket that night with trace routes and -n 100 pings to help show them the problem. It was on their network. They didnt respond after 6 hours so we called them. We were on hold for over an hour and no one ever answered. Next day came and no one replied to ticket but I noticed someone was on live chat (sales) - I decided to message them as we needed this issue resolved quickly as possible - (We already had clients setup on the first day from preorders and customers were complaining.) The person in live chat said they would contact engineering and they should be back with us shortly. Soon after we got a reply about the issue being fixed. Well it seemed to be partially fixed - No more loss but still jumpy pings.
Couple days later loss came back again - Again we put in support ticket (this time 'emergency' ticket to see if we could get a quicker response) Well we did not get a response in 12 hours. Called back (around 5:30EST) and still no one answered. We waited on hold for about 50 minutes. Live chat was not online for us to contact them so we had to continue to wait. It took 2 days for them to respond to the ticket and all the response was "are you still having an issue". Yes we are still having the issue and so is all our customers. Never got a response again We tried all all options of support from email, phone and chat and the issues never got resolved..
Over a period of a month we opened numerous tickets and never got a resolve to our issues. We asked numerous times why were we given a test ip was connected to a network far superior than the one we were put on - They never responded to this question.
---- Their website states:
Advertisement under links:
"If your server has any type of issue day or night, we fix it, no excuses"
"Our support department is opened 24/7 by ticket system or phone. We also operate online chat via AIM/ICQ/Web."
Also funny - Their site has a Live Help! button which never has anyone on it when we go to it - Always states "There are no operators available right now to take your call. Please leave a message and we will get back to you soon" ----
Interestingly enough we couldn't get support day or night? They have good prices but if you are considering them for a game or voice server in NY (east coast) then i would avoid them like the plague as the network and customer service is below average. They are a member of the BBB - We may be contacting them also.
This is just a heads up for any provider that needs a reliable connection with customer support thats there. (sorry for the long read)
Bad support, i mean TERRIBLE SUPPORT, unless you pay at least ~200$ a month for a support package.
Basically server went down yesterday, tryed to reboot the server using the APC, no go, tryed again, no go. Called customer support, had to pay 149 euros ($236) an hour to get someone on the line (it wasn't office hours). The person i had on the phone asked me to start a support ticket, no problem, support ticket started with a reply that it will take a while and that the server will be taken a look at the next morning. Big problem, losing money here, hello??, this never happened with layeredtech or theplanet, what kind of company is this? Whatever i'll wait untill next morning, next morning i call support again, they are telling me that the server is currently looked at. Awesome! Finally some action. Btw, i ordered another server a few days back and i was also promised to get it today around 3pm. It's 3pm now, no answer for the server which is down and no information about the new server i ordered. My business partner calls them again, asking what is going on, they are telling him that it takes a while to scan for files. What files? euh? I only requested for a reboot and asked them whats going on? running a fsck for 6 hours straight? It's 9PM now and i am still waiting for the server to get backup or at least get some feedback, .. but nothing from Leaseweb, only promises that they are looking at it since 9am this morning. The new server i ordered has still not arrived either.
I'm Dutch myself, i have 3 servers at ThePlanet since 2002 or something and a few at Layeredtech.com recently and i really love their service, as i started a new project for the Dutch market i decided to try Leaseweb out as they are located a few KMs from me, but i am getting some major second thoughts now. If the server will not be online tomorrow AND if i dont get my new server information before tomorrow 5PM i will be forced to unbind our old and new contract (Dutch law) and never recommend you to anyone.
Ticket #369756 and #370074 in case a Leaseweb staff is reading this.
Has anyone else experienced a similiar issue before?
So I usually have my main server and a couple of test VPS servers. About a month ago I saw that Amerihosting was running a special on their VPS servers running on pure Internap in Atlanta. I couldn't find anything bad about them so I signed up.
My sign up process went pretty smooth although it took them a while to get the DirectAdmin license. The server was setup on pure Internap and the speeds were decent.
A few days after my order the first downtime happened which left my service down for about an hour. When I opened tickets I pretty much got one line responses and it felt really unprofessional. The techs blamed it on a error with r1soft. Anyway I shrugged it off but I kept noticing small downtimes or losses of connectivity.
Come back to today and my VPS goes down. I check my node and it appears to be dead as well. I try to login to the hypervm but it gives me the error that it can't contact that node. I submit a ticket and after a while I get a response that they have dispatched a tech to look into it. A little while later they say it is back up.
At this point I find that the service is pretty much unstable and can't be trusted so I ask to cancel my account. At this point I get a response that they have cancelled my service but the reason my down time today happened is because of non payment (an outright lie). First of all I haven't gotten my billing notice or statement, I always pay my bills on time for hosting. Second of all the entire node was down. Anyway i find a company shows its true colors during times like this and I believe this just shows that Amerihosting can not be trusted.
I monitoring my stuff from three different services:
Jul 17, 2007 9:21:12 AM 1 Hrs 21 Mins Jul 15, 2007 10:41:31 PM 3 Mins 28 Secs Jul 5, 2007 10:29:52 AM 3 Mins 30 Secs Jun 22, 2007 3:42:25 PM 35 Mins 21 Secs Jun 22, 2007 2:19:43 PM 25 Mins 3 Secs
I dont want this to happen to anyone and thats why posting this here, plus I need some suggestions for a good dedicated hoster...
I been with theplanet.com for over a year and now on these days i got the WORST service ever..... I am paying $500 month and transfering new servers to planet from my other dedicated hosters....
Here is the story.. My billing period is 10/16.. I advise planet team to cancel one of my server on 10/12. While I was travelling, following day 10/13, I acreated an offical ticket to cancel the server..... Planet team edited my ticket and asked me 'do you really want to cancel or so"... Since on the flight, i didnot got a chance to see it.. 10/15, i logged in and they send me a message, you will be billed for next month since you failed to confirm....
ridiculus..?? They want me to pay one extra month for a non use server... Do they think i am getting free money..?
I contacted the billing rep, instead of supporting, they are just washing off there hand like 'sorry its ur problem, you do what ever you want, we dont care attitude'... I still have $500 monthly server with them and they fighting for $165.. Planet sales people spend too much time with me to get my business, however there billing team is just kicking me....
I created 2 tickets and told them 4 times to cancel, however they still have questions whether i really wanted to cancel..Here is the timing of ticket creation..
I have few servers with Liquidweb.... I am planning to switch my planet servers to some other hosters... I fould iweb.com... Is there any horror stories just like this..?? or is there any good dedicated hosters who provide support instead of stealing money...??
I am planning to file this is BBB and inform my creditcard company.. Any other recomendations to get my money back...?? Please help kind people.. I am really frustruated.. I dont mind to gave money to charity, however these kind of rip off cannot be tolerated...
This is message I send to them after several conversations.. they dont care...leave if you want....
Vicky,
You are forcing me to cancel all my servers from theplanet.com and switch to iweb or liquidweb. I am paying upto $500 per month for my servers.. and you are fighting with me for $165 for a cancelled server..??
Check the date, I created the regular cancellation ticket on 10/12 and official ticket of 10/13... You guys edited it and holded it and made a statement that we are waiting for final confirmation..? I still not got an answer for my concern. When I send official cancellation, why I need to reconfirm..?? On my first ticket I send you the fuull details.. Note that billing date is 10/16.. Let me know if you need a copy of the credit card transaction...
If this wont get resolved, I wont be a customer for planet starting next month...
My VPS has been down since 6:00 PM yesterday. My "high priority" open ticket(opened yesterday at 6:00) has been completely ignored- there have been no responses. When I call support, the tech there says that there is nothing he can do except open a ticket.
I say I already have an open ticket, which is useless because nobody is responding to it.
I've been a Zone.net customer for over a year, and this is the first time I have experienced such atrocious support.
I bought a shell from them but they are also a VPS company so I figured I would warn everyone about them...
I put in a cancel request a few days ago, I just asked to cancel. I didn't specify to cancel immediately or at the end of my month.
I assumed they would leave my service running for the time I paid for, reguardless of my cancel request (like a good natured business would do)
I sure was wrong.
My service was shutoff immediately, and my account for billing/support was closed so I couldn't login to update my support ticket.
When I joined their IRC channel and asked about it, I was laughed at by the ops and staff of sh3lls because I was upset they shutoff my account early.
They said it was cancelled because I opened a ticket asking for it to be cancelled. Which is true, as I have already said, however I did not ask for it to be cancelled immediately. Sh3lls should have either asked me if I want the account cancelled immediately, or just left it running for the remaining time I paid for.
I also cancelled 2 other services with different companies this week, one a VPS company, and one a Web Hosting company, both automatically left my service running until the end of the month - they didn't even try to shut off my services early.
That's what a honest, ethical company would do. They wouldn't automatically shut your service down early, so they can make a few extra dollars off you!
Beware of sh3lls, not only will they shut off your service early, but their admins/staff will laugh at you when you ask for help!
I signed up for a VPS Land server over a week ago, and everything worked great for the first week. I then began having issues where the server would crash and I would then be stuck at this error:
"System could not log you on. Make sure your User name and domain are correct, then type your password again. Letters in passwords must be typed using the correct case."
Over the last 4 days or so this error has continued to plague me, and after multiple support tickets their only solution was to "Buy more RDP connections" as I was using 2, one for myself, one for my employee to use. I bought 2 more connections for $5 as they recommended and it did NOT fix the problem. In fact, since about Wednesday I've been completely locked out of the server and my support tickets have basically been replied to with:
"We can logon to your box no problem, please email us back if you continue to have issues."
Well, of course, since I'm locked out of the box, I emailed back asking if there is ANYTHING I could do to get it working, as I am losing $200/day in employee fees while he cannot work.
My replies go unheard, and I continue until late Friday night to be completely locked out of the server and my support tickets go unanswered.
I realize that I'm only paying for a cheap $30 a month VPS, but I need this to be reliable. I'm being treated as if I'm completely unimportant and now and I have lost several day's work and employee fees because of this. I even asked if I could pay more to get better service and my emails go unanswered.
I NEED a reliable VPS and cost at this point is no object. With the money I have lost while using VPS Land's HORRIBLE unreliable service I could have had a dedicated box from a real host that actually cares about whether or not it's customers are getting screwed.
I can't logon to the box and they act as though I'm lying.
I configured DirectAdmin and uploaded my scripts like flv players, some php test scripts and the only output I got was php errors and non working FLVs (The browser ask me to download the flvs, instead of playing in jw media player).
Thats, because no modules and extensions were installed, which I asked in my pre-sales question email, befor buying the vps.
I asked for a cancellation of the account a few minutes later I had no access anymore to the IPs, DirectAdmin, Hypervm or any FTP Accounts.
I have paid $24.99 (With promocode NEW50) and got only 2 days access to the vps! Kody R. from Thenynoc.com told me, That a refund is not possible (because of their ToS).
Usually, I won't start a thread. But this time, I think I will share my 1-year experience, so people will know how Singtel EXPAN (HK) network/abuse department works.
Firstly, their network is extremely good most of the time. I only made a few complaints about network (3-4 minor problems... except the one caused by the earthquake)
So, I am a happy customer for first 10 months. However, my nightmare starts 2 months ago:
1. Early Feb, the abuse/network team received a phising scam (AOL) complaints against a site on a dedicated server customer (which sold hosting as a part time job). So, a technican has forward us the email and then phoned me about that. I immediately forwarded it to my customer.... After 30 minutes, the technican phoned me again and told me that they had blocked the IP since I didn't fix it. Finally, this customer cancelled next month. [EWM ticket #3143589]
2. After 10-20 days, we got a new customer that want to send mailing list. I said as long as you responded to all complaints and the rate isn't high, you can use the server for mailing list. Within 20 days, we got few complaints via email (in standard template) ... so I forward them to my customers and they removed them promptly. Then, one day, a technician phoned me and told me they will block the IP at 5:00pm... but they phoned me at 2:00pm... So, I begged them to extend the deadline to 24-48 hours because the customer come from US... After a day, another spam complaint (from this customer's previous HK provider )... so, I turned off the switch port of his server immediately.
This time, I really appreciate the extended deadline. However, after this incident, their patient were all gone.
3. Last week, Microsoft privacy team reported that one of the site is linking to privated copy of Windows Vista (which is hosted in Radidshare.de) and providing license key/ key generator.
So, the technician phoned me and give me 30 minutes. I said the site is a popular forum with 130K+ members and 10K+ members online... sometimes, somethings may be overlooked. This time, no extended time.... Luckily, the forum owner is online in MSN. So, he deleted the thread immediately and I reported it to Microsoft and Singtel. Microsoft Anti-privacy team did reply and thank us while Singtel kept silent. [MS Ref. 878XX]
4. 2 days ago, someone "complained" about "Spam Activities" on 1 server. The complains are about 2 URLs in a server were redirecting to a sites that was infected by virus/ was hosting virus. Again they phoned me and told me to fix within 30 minutes or they suspend my network.... This time, I can't contact the owner and we don't have access to the server... so I suspended this server. [??No email ticket reference??]
5. Yesterday, a technician phoned me again and told me to fix a spam complaint within 30 minutes. But, this time, the complain is so short that I can paste it here: -------------------------------------------- Subject: UNDER ASSAULT BY SPAM!
XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX has been assaulting my formmail script for
days. Please make it stop! --------------------------------------------
Since my skill level is too low, I can only think of 1 solution..... [EWM ticket # 3188660]
---- personal opinion ----- Singtel EXPAN DC (Shatin) has a good infra-structure and helpful onsite technicians. But, their abuse/ network department is a joke. (Just like an over-budget police department in SimCity. ) That make, their colocation is not suitable for any hostings/ dedicated server providers. It is not recommended to anyone that doesn't sit next to the phone 24 hours a day.
I have been a customer with www.DMEHosting.com for over two months now. They were an ok server provider/host at first but I am now forced to leave.
The server setup is advertised as under 72 hours. My first server took just a few hours under that and my second one actually took longer. I also heard a report that a rapid deploy server (they say 1 hour or less) took over 24 hours to set up.
I have had a bit of downtime, and support is slow since the host is run by one person (David). This means that emails can take 24 hours to get a reply, live chat is only available for a few hours a day and there is no phone support which is a big minus for me in terms of hosting.
I purchase a server for my client who uses it to host proxies. Several times I have gotten reports of malware/spam/some other type of abuse. Each time this happens they send absolutely no details (except server name) and when I ask for more I get no reply and no help in sorting out the possible security problems.
The incredibly horrible bit started around the 7th of September. My main server was down and I had no details or anything from DMEhosting. I sent an email to their support team and a long 3 hours later I got an email back saying I was suspended for non-payment. I found this strange because I had received no emails, notices or invoices that month for the server. They claim to have tried to contact me, but I see no efforts at all.
So they eventually unsuspended my server and then I got an invoice overdue notice (even though I never got any "invoice due" notices. I then tried to pay the invoice, but their paypal system either half the time gives me an error that I need to add a credit card (I have one in my paypal already) or just doesn't let me pay.
I tried explaining their payment problems to them in live chat but they say since no one else is having problems they won't do anything (either they assume I am a complete idiot or I am making it up). This is disgraceful, if I contact a host saying that I can't pay because something is wrong with their system then they should at least take a look. They then terminated the live chat right in the middle of us talking (yes, they/David (one man show) are very rude).
Then, to my horror I got an email saying that no payment had been received and my server was suspended. Even though I told them several times by email and chat that their payment system doesn't work.
They then claim that I am being "very rude and and inconsiderate" and that essentially it is all my fault. They say my invoice is overdue and I still won't (I will, but I can't and they won't listen) pay so they are going to keep my server down.
Essentially the owner of this terrible host, David (he is also the support, billing, everything) is an incredibly rude person and he has no respect or desire to help his clients. I have faced serious amounts of downtime, slow support and now rude, horrible and downright stupid responses from support.
I advise you to steer well clear of this terrible host, they may be cheap but you are just asking for trouble.
I had a client ask me earlier if there was any downsides to having his main site be SSL only ,not his billing his actual site.
For exmaple it would be https://www.yoursite.com rather than the normal http and having that redirect to the https.
Obviously he would need all his images being linked to https in order for it to be secure but apart from that, I couldn't think of any of the top of my head, I was wondering what you guys all thought.
I just uploaded a wordpress site and it already used up 300mb ram. The site receives very little traffic so I doubt the traffic is the cause of the ram usage. Is this normal? my control panel is webmin
Does that look normal to you? Because I read somewhere that you should allow no more then 30 connections per IP. But most are taking much more then that.
We've just started to use a VPS, and so far no problems I've been looking at the resources and they seem a little high considering it's pretty much out of the box, and I've only setup 4 sites which aren't even public yet. The only thing I've changed is the php.ini to increase the memory limit to 32mb. My main concern is that these sites don't suffer when they go live.
In the Plesk control panel the memory says: 3.8 GB of 3.8 GB used; 47.1 MB available The 47.1mb is pretty much average, although I've seen it go as low as 115mb.
In Virtuozzo the system usage (resource: capacity) is usually around 60-75%
Both of these seem a little high, but I'm not sure if these readings are for the whole physical server, or just my portion of it.
Also in the (Virtuozzo) QoS alerts I've had quite a few Yellow zone, black zone and one red zone reports, at around 5am - quite possibly the quietest time on a server which isn't hosting any live sites yet. These have both been on the numproc and the privvmpages services (the red zone was one the privvmpages). Is there anything I should be looking at or is this fairly normal operation for a VPS? I have nightly backups scheduled for around 1am. These were originally set for 4am, but reports were showing that they were running out of memory, so I’ve now staggered the times of these to see if that helps. I've haven't changed anything resource-wise other than the php, so I thought it would be good to go from the start, but maybe it needs some fine tuning.
I am running asp.net on my 1and1 "shared" hosting account. I just was told I could not add a simple .mp3 player control because it requires "higher" security. I only have "medium" security. They could only suggest a dedicated server.
Is this going to be normal amongst all asp.net hosting companies? Are most asp controls at the higher security level?
Is there a hosting company that gives this to you as a shared customer?
I recently got a VPS from VPSLand before reading all the negative reviews... Everything seems to work fine EXCEPT disk operations. Sometimes it seems writing big files to disk, or moving/copying files around on the server will completely lock it up.
I opened up PerfMon and with my IIS/mySQL services stopped (which means my system is running absolutely nothing), the disk queue and disk % values are ridiculous. See:
www|europeinruins|com/temp/disk-noiis-nomysql.JPG (can't post URL's so switch the | with .
I'm not sure if the trafic showed by munin graphics is normal or not because it seems it jumps to 2mbps in the morning and after few hours drops down to .5mbps
I don't host any storage websites, which should have lots of uploads, just normal websites, maybe a total of 10000 unique visitors/day on all accounts (I estimate this as I don't know how to find out exactly the number of visitors on all websites hosted on this server - 182 accounts)
My question is how can I see what exactly is making that trafic, maybe using a netstat command to see what processes are using the bandwidth.
My server is running slow, and some process are using high % of CUP.
Please take a look at the screenshot, and also tell me if it's normal to have : /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL running as nobody and root, and what is this command ?
I have a server with Core2Duo E6600 CPU, 4 gigs of RAM and 2x250 GB HDD's. What is the "normal" load average I can expect having ~50 websites running on it with medium visits. My current load averages (and most of the time ones) are: load average: 0.24, 0.13, 0.16
I have an dedicated server 2 x Xeon CPU 3.20GHz (2GB RAM), now 30 minutes ago my admin tryed to make a benchmark test on it and after a period the server was not responding ( SSH or http.. ftp ) we asked DN to reboot the server. After the reboot in Service Status page (WHM) there ware many services down and the load was ~ 45.00 (4 cpus) .. after aprox. 5 - 10 minutes the load has droped:
Server Load 2.61 (4 cpus)
is it normal to have such a higher load 45.00 (4 cpus) after an reboot ? The memory used was 32%.