Pro's And Con's For Web And Database Hosting Options
Mar 26, 2008
I'm currently working for a company who are looking to migrate there current business system and also create an e-commerce website.
The company (Company A) who were doing the migration were also going to originally take care of the e-commerce side of things aswell, but after looking at the website solution they have now decided to give it to another company (Company B) to deal with. But seem to be sticking with the original company to do the business system migration.
Now this has created a bit of a problem with regards to the hosting side of things (amongst other things ).
Originally this was all going to be hosted by Company A. This would keep it all nicely integrated.
But now Company B are doing the e-commerce side of things it needs to somehow integrate with the business database.
And now for the question (about time i hear you ask ).
Can you give me the pros and cons of the following scenarios:
Scenario A:
We host both business system (database) and webservers onsite.
Scenario B:
Company A hosts business (database) solution. We host webserver.
Scenario C:
Company A hosts business (database) system. Company B hosts webserver.
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Mar 18, 2009
A client of mine insists that his friend is doing great with Netfirms, however I hear a lot of conflicting opinions.
Please, give me the good, the bad and the ugly so I can give some more rounded advice to my client.
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May 10, 2009
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Apr 9, 2009
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Mar 23, 2009
I'm trying to understand more the Pro's and Con's for having an Addon Domain vs Separate domain.
Here's my use for it. Site1.com holds all the files, Site2.com holds all the video and images. When it comes time to add a second server (end of this year) I could move Site2.com to a second server and nfs mount it. Thats of the site is separate. PROBLEM: separate site means permission problems, when write code ie.php you can unlink / move files without permission which means setting up special groups.
Addon domain doesn't have the permission problem from what I can see, since the domain gets the group access of the Mainsite. so no extra configuration required. now the problem would be how do I get that addon domain to a second server to offload some of the resources.
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Aug 15, 2007
I work for a design/ad/development firm that started offering shared hosting several years ago. We purchased some rackspace and started co-locating servers in a big data-center.
As we're growing, we're beginning to out-strip our capacity to manage all these FreeBSD boxes.
How do the pros do it?
- What sort of hardware do they buy? Big beefy machines or banks of disposable 1Us with ghosted OS images, and just swap out ones that break? Are blade servers a good idea here?
- How do they manage redundancy? At the bargain prices most hosts charge, I don't see how they can keep redundant machines
- Does anybody know of a good firewall that can keep up with traffic? We tried deploying a NexCom box with pfSense, and while the management interface is great, it can't keep up with what we need it to do.
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Sep 30, 2008
Just curious if any of you know of good ways to handle the bandwidth costs associated with hosting high traffic video sites.
For a future project I plan a dedicated server, but was hoping there might be a cheap way to avoid bandwidth costs - such as Amazon S3 (however from my calculations this is an expensive option).
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Jun 26, 2007
I've got a dedicated with Centos 4.x, WHM / Cpanel. I have problem when create new account, this is error:
Setting up Mail & Local Domains...localdomains...valiases ...vdomainaliases...vfilters......Done
Configuring DNS...Bind reconfiguring on server using rndc
Error reconfiguring bind on server: rndc: error: /etc/rndc.key:7: 'options' redefined near 'options'
rndc: could not load rndc configuration
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Jul 12, 2008
So far I really haven't found any free hosting options that I would personally use for any of my websites. Are there any "full-featured" free hosting options that a lot of people don't know about?
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Mar 6, 2007
I represent a small software development company out of Bellevue, WA. For the longest time we had our server (3U rack) based in Sunny Southern California. We were paying $150/m for 3mbit connection with six IPs. We use the server for work as well as hosting a gaming community. We'd host half-life 2 servers for friends and family for the longest time.
We began to go over our monthly bandwidth allocation limits late last year and had to shell out for the overage charges. Not a big deal. However, a good friend of one of my associates said he could get us free hosting up here in Seattle if we moved our machine.
I was skeptical, but he said he knew someone who was an employee at one of the major datacenters here in Seattle and that she could get us in as long as we hosted her website. We moved our box in November of 2006. It is now March 6, 2007, and we just received word that we've been had. I guess the employee at said datacenter broke some rules and as a result lost privilages to host her own private machine.
So, while she was busy leading us along, we were basically frozen as a small start-up company as our servers were offline and our ability to function without this machine online was greatly hindered.
So, today I was turned onto this website as a place to find answers to questions about hosting. Well, here's my question.
Does anyone know of anywhere in the Pacific Northwest and/or Northern California that provides affordable hosting and quality service? We're looking for rack space for our 3U server and a 3mbit connection. Ideally we'd like more bandwidth than this as 3mbit wasn't enough at our old location... however, considering the amount of loss we've taken during this disaster, we'll settle for anything. We also only need 1 IP, but more wouldn't be a bad thing.
The key word here is affordable. We are starving college kids and hosting is expensive.
We're quite desperate, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Again, we're looking for cheap/affordable hosting sollutions in the Pacific Northwest that meets the above requirements.
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Oct 30, 2007
have a number of vps servers with USA based VPS hosts, very happy with these companies but as they are USA based load time could be improved with AU based server. Also search engine considerations as well fictate we need to offer AU based hsoting. So now looking to setup future accounts a little closer to home with australian based vps hosting
Does anyone know of a really good, fast, reliable affordable vps host offering cpanel/whm vps hosting in a top notch australian data centre.
hoping to pay arounf $100 per month, with room to grow when we have more clients on the server...
This is the average package we are on with us based hosts so looking for something as close as possible to this...
$89 Monthly
$0 Setup
2 GB Burst RAM
512 MB Guaranteed RAM
20 GB Storage
500 GB Monthly Transfer
4 IP Addresses
Unlimited Domains
Unlimited User Accounts
Cpanel/WHM
Minimum Server Specs
Dual Xeon 3 GHz or Better
8 GB Registered ECC RAM
U320 SCSI HD in Hardware RAID 10
Zero Downtime During Drive Failure
Hot-Swap Drives and Fans
Replaceable on the Fly
Dual Gigabit Network Interfaces
If anyone can point me in the direction of some reputable companies id be very happy!
Yes i have searched the forum but cant really find mention of good australian based vps hosts.
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Oct 4, 2008
I've got a dedicated server through Liquid Web. I can't say enough about how great the reliability and service has been since I switched over to them a number of months ago.
Nevertheless, with the advent of cloud hosting, I'm intrigued by the idea of paying for what I actually use on a server rather than having way more capacity than I need 90% of the day.
I've looked around here and there's a bit of talk about it but it doesn't seem like folks are scrambling into it and it also appears that the offereings are still relatively immature.
I really don't have the time to devote to tweaking, etc or figuring out something really complicated.
I'll stick to my dedicated server if it means tons of extra work or potential downtime or massive frustration but I wanted to get some feedback from the community about whether or not there are some stable cloud hosting options that are emerging that might be worth considering.
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May 2, 2007
I am currently wanting to add a cache engine that eases the apache server for my php scripts. I just wanted to make sure there weren't cons; bugs with certain pages that need to be reloaded very quickly? Has any of you already experienced such bugs with these progs? Which cache-accelerator would you suggest for php-mysql apache?
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Aug 9, 2008
I have a friend who has a dedicated server right now that uses a good 4GB for all his website content. (not streaming media but just a whole bunch of scripts and etc. well thats what he tells me). And so anyways, his SQL database is about 1-2GB. And he is not too sure about his monthly traffic but its a social networking site with a good amount of users (so its actively used by many users). Would it be necessary for him to have a dedicated server or do you think he could cut costs with a shared hosting account at like host gator or some other shared hosting service like that? I guess my biggest concern is his current database. A lot of shared hosting companies (from what i saw) offer unlimited Mysql Tables do they have size limits? And does a bigger sql database drastically effect the performance of the overall server?
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Oct 4, 2009
We were on shared hosting until we were asked to move off due to our database using a lot of the CPU - how much, we dont know.
Anyway, moved to a 1GB Hyper-V VPS, seems like we have one core of an E5420 but presume the server is shared between 12 people.
When our ASP application runs, the MSSQL server reaches 100% CPU and the website performs slower than the shared server we were on.
Where can we go from here? Seems like going from shared to a Dual/Quad Core Dedicated Server is a large jump and a massive jump in price.
What about a host with a high performance dedicated server for MSSQL shared between customers.
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Mar 5, 2008
I am developer and I ahve done web-site development and database development but it was for other companies where everything was already available.
I was not sure if this was the right place for the post, but I thought I would atleast start here, if I should post this in some other category please let me know.
I am satrting work on a Database driven web-site. I say database driven, becuase the web-site copares prices for multiple products. By some worst case scenarios(explained later) I need a database to easily acoomadate more than 1000 GB of data. I can definitely try cutting this down, but my question is what type of hosting should I choose and how when the web-site is completely relying on data that is updated on a weekly basis.
The reason to keep old data is to use that to show a Price history and forecasting on future Prices. The thought of storing this data locally and just creating a summary has crossed my mind.
The Data Scenario:
Price of Products per store: 50,000
Approximate size for the table per store: 3 MB
Number of stores: 500
Avg Size: 1500 MB
This is the bare minimum 1500 MB + other tables + overhead
Other tables: Forum data, Reviewes, User Favorite Products, etc.
Number of weeks: 52
Avg Size: 78 GB
Howevere the table with the most data and the table that would be changing the most is the Price table. So I am approximating the minimum requirement for the Databse to be atleast 2GB.
My question now is:
To be cost effective I can store the history on my personal desktop. But I still need something that allows me to have 2 GB of Database space. What is my best solution?
I have no strict rules about platform or langauge, to get started I am just trying to be cheap but still find a decent web-hosting solution so that by getting started small I have hopes of going big.
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Apr 11, 2008
if there are any recommendations on managed database hosting services. This will be used for a fairly large project running on Mysql DB. Due to the size and complexity of the database a lot of resources are being used, so I prefer to find a company which specializes in dB hosting.
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May 7, 2008
Any windows hosting provider with MSSQL database?
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Sep 28, 2007
I have a website that runs off a mysql database.
The first month it hit in excess of 400 threads.
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Jan 8, 2007
I'm wondering if someone can recommend a host to me. I know that researching a host before I go with it is important, this is part of my research.
I would like to make a site with ASP.NET 2.0 and a database (MS SQL preferred).
I'm just starting, so I don't have any traffic, but I don't want to rule out the possibility in the future.
I'd like a host that has no lock-in (Does not own my domain name, lets me backup and download my own database files) to a host that scales (allows me to upgrade plans easily, or purchase add-on space and bandwidth), although both are useful, I really don't want to be locked-in.
The site is not for profit (personal) and budget is a concern.
Right now Lunarpages Windows plan is looking good, it does give me a ‘free domain’, but specifies that they do not own it. Does anyone know how easy it is to transfer a free domain from lunarpages to godaddy or another registry? Has anyone had experience with this host for asp.net?
I'm also interested in finding a unbiased, legitimate host searching site that allows me to search hosts by features, with no affiliate links to the hosts reviewed, that do not sell hosting, etc.
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Aug 17, 2008
I created a database for my site and then a subdomain.
The subdomain is already working but the database still shows pending setup. Normally, the database setup is much faster than the subdomain setup.
I'm not sure what's going on. Their email support sucks. They don't even reply on time. I can't call them because I'm overseas. It would be a very expensive phone call.
This is my first week with them. Do you guys experience this with Godaddy?
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Nov 14, 2007
I created a SQL Server database that need sto be setup for the customer on their hosting account. The hosting company wanted the sql statemens, ok so I gave it to them to setup my tables and stored procedures. I also mentioned that if they gave me a username and password with database location and catalog name for the connection string and as long as I had create rights for that database I could run my own sql statements via SQL Server Enterprise Manager to set it up. They sent an excuse about how insecure that wasy and that they couldn't send any usernames or passwords for the database to me t set this up.
They also said it's becomming more common for Hosting Companies to not allow access to the databases for thatpurpose. Ok... uh how in the world do they expect to have a programmer create and run their data driven website without that information? I'm confused on what these guys are doing.
So.. is this true? Are more hosting companies hording their database infromation and customer usernames and passwords from the developers?
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Jul 1, 2008
recommend me about a good hosting provider for those requirements: Windows IIS hosting, support for .NET 2.0, MS SQL 2005 Database & ISAPI_Rewrite?
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Jan 13, 2009
This is more aimed at providers but do you allow partial upgrades on RAM/Disk/Bandwidth?
I'm asking as we have one brand which is fully automated which I refuse to do partial upgrades on as its done as a budget and if a user needs more they need to upgrade to the next package but it is budget.
On our more expensive brands we do allow partial upgrades
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Feb 7, 2009
I have a Windows VPS hosting account. Plesk control panel. I use PHP for my website. With this setup how can I Rewrite my url's from
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to
www.domain.com/page/param1/param2
When I try to search I only find URL rewrite for Linux based vps using php or windows based vps using dotnet or php
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Jun 22, 2009
Am having a lot of this in my apache status in both, a dedicated server and a vps, i think is affecting our load,
example of just some of the ones that appear in the apache status (whm)
Code:
70-0 - 0/0/21 . 0.00 18726 0 0.0 0.00 0.17 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
71-0 - 0/0/33 . 0.00 18730 0 0.0 0.00 0.20 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
72-0 - 0/0/93 . 0.00 18731 0 0.0 0.00 0.83 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
73-0 - 0/0/17 . 0.00 18734 0 0.0 0.00 0.07 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
74-0 - 0/0/24 . 0.00 123794 0 0.0 0.00 0.13 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
75-0 - 0/0/30 . 0.08 123710 0 0.0 0.00 0.07 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
76-0 - 0/0/9 . 0.00 123783 0 0.0 0.00 0.03 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
77-0 - 0/0/10 . 0.01 123709 0 0.0 0.00 0.01 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
78-0 - 0/0/19 . 0.00 123748 232 0.0 0.00 0.17 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
79-0 - 0/0/129 . 0.00 123793 0 0.0 0.00 1.77 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
80-0 - 0/0/1 . 0.00 177694 0 0.0 0.00 0.00 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
81-0 - 0/0/1 . 0.00 177693 0 0.0 0.00 0.00 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
82-0 - 0/0/1 . 0.00 177692 0 0.0 0.00 0.00 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
83-0 - 0/0/3 . 0.07 177638 0 0.0 0.00 0.02 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
84-0 - 0/0/13 . 0.16 177609 0 0.0 0.00 0.03 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
85-0 - 0/0/1 . 0.00 177691 0 0.0 0.00 0.00 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
86-0 - 0/0/12 . 0.08 177616 0 0.0 0.00 0.01 127.0.0.1 server.domain.com OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0
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Aug 21, 2008
I backup my accounts via cpanel backup. I run incremental and mount to a NAS. I have about 2GB in database and 3GB in files (500,000+ PNGs). Backup is hard on the server and it takes 17 hours to complete according to my logs.
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Nov 1, 2008
As a web hosts backups of client data are very important for me so I want some advices on the best methods of backups.
Should I use :
1. Raid
2. 2nd HDD and use cPanel's built in backup system.
3. Separate backup's server using cPanel's built in backup system.
4. r1soft or other commercial softwares?
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Jun 2, 2008
I host several web clients that were recently impacted by the crap at ThePlanet. As I think about how to be more redundant (and repetitive) I'm not sure of my options.
What's the best practice to ensure that if you have a server at a data center that goes out, that you can (somewhat) easily switch over to a different server? I suppose one solution is to have 2 servers at 2 physical locations, and then you could just change the DNS record in the event of failure, but is there another solution I'm not aware of? Is there a good resource I can goto to read up on this info?
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