Mirror A Site Running Server 2003 Web Services

Dec 19, 2008

Mirror a site running server 2003 web services

I'm a network admin at a university and one of the departments is hosting their site on their own personal server running Server 2003 and Windows Web services. They've been asking me how would they go about mirroring their site in the event of a power loss intentional or otherwise. There are times during holiday periods where building maintenance will shut off power but they still want students to be able to get to their site. So they want to set up a mirror on another server in an office offsite.

I've done some research on the subject but I haven't been able to find anything dealing with mirroring Microsoft hosted sites.

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We tried booting it in safe mode and all the other modes etc etc.... but to no avail... we couldn't get it to work.

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We used a windows XP machine.... imported the harddrive using disk management..... we had to un mirror the drive to be able to access it.

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Please contact us as soon as possible, as (COMPANY OWNER) has no access to the system and no e-mail.
Reply from IT Rep:
5/24 IT REP worked on the phone for over 7 hours yesterday. The Microsoft Tech and IT REP agreed to continue this morning. I know as of last night the remote portion of the Companyweb and the internal site were functioning. However, they are continuing to work to retrieve the existing data.

Did you ever add the other external hard drive to your backup rotation? If so, please let IT REP know. I have meeting this morning until 11:30, if you need anything please contact IT REP.

We will discuss what caused the problem and future prevention after all is resolved.
Our response:
5/25 I am inquiring as to the progress toward restoration of the company web. As you are already aware, the data contained in the company web is crucial to the day to day operation of our business. We are not able to access any of our scheduling information for installations, production or customer service issues. While we have been able to track most of these items thus far, the amount of information available for scheduling next week is quite limited.

It would be helpful to have some indication of when we expect to be restored as well as an estimate of the percentage of data which may be lost, so that we can begin to formulate our response to the situation.

I am certain that you and IT REP understand just how serious the consequences of this situation can become, and assume that you will be capable of providing us with periodic updates as to your progress.

I would also be interested to find out if there are plans to work this out over the weekend or if it has been decided to place this on the back burner and resume restoration of our vital data on tuesday. IT Reply:
5/25 At this point, this is a Microsoft issue that they are working on to resolve Im only facilitating their ability to access the server and work. I am doubtful that they work on the weekend, but I will find out. IT REP and I have spent roughly 25 hours in the last 2.5 days working on this, myself until almost midnight last night, so he and I are putting forth every conceivable effort to resolve this. In the mean time, I have turned off the automatic updates (which are enabled by default) to prevent this type of thing from happening again. Keep in mind that if there were 2 hard drives being used in a rotation as IT REP suggested, wed have backups from before the failed patch to revert to.

As soon as I have any indication of a target time for resolution, I will not hesitate to let you know.Our next question:
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