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I have a dedicated server using one of my domain as the nameserver; basically ns1.mydomains.com / ns2.mydomains.com

Lately my sites are getting hacked and want to use DNS nameserver provided by the registrar, eNom to hide my domains. For example, if I use dns1.name-services.com/dns2.name-services.com or ns1.domaincontrol.com (GoDaddy), it will be harder for people to track of what domains I own, etc.

Once I change the nameservers to dns1.name-services.com, what do I need to do on the dedicated server/WHM side? A records, CNAME, MX records?

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[root@lax1 ~]# dig +trace www.host.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.3rc2 <<>> +trace www.host.com
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. 220048 IN NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
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. 220048 IN NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
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net. 172800 IN NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.net.
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net. 172800 IN NS G.GTLD-SERVERS.net.
;; Received 497 bytes from 128.8.10.90#53(D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 74 ms

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host.com. 172800 IN NS nsdme2.host.com.
host.com. 172800 IN NS nsdme3.host.com.
host.com. 172800 IN NS nsdme4.host.com.
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host.com. 86400 IN NS nsdme2.host.com.
host.com. 86400 IN NS nsdme1.host.com.
host.com. 86400 IN NS nsdme5.host.com.
host.com. 86400 IN NS nsdme0.host.com.
host.com. 86400 IN NS nsdme4.host.com.
host.com. 86400 IN NS nsdme3.host.com.
;; Received 276 bytes from 123.123.123.123#53(nsdme0.host.com) in 68 ms
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Code:
[root@lax1 ~]# dig +trace ns1.host.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.3rc2 <<>> +trace ns1.host.com
;; global options: printcmd
. 218964 IN NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
...........................................
. 218964 IN NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
;; Received 228 bytes from 66.63.160.2#53(66.63.160.2) in 1 ms

net. 172800 IN NS H.GTLD-SERVERS.net.
...........................................
net. 172800 IN NS G.GTLD-SERVERS.net.
;; Received 497 bytes from 202.12.27.33#53(M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 115 ms

ns1.host.com. 172800 IN A 60.55.55.55
host.com. 172800 IN NS nsdme0.host.com.
host.com. 172800 IN NS nsdme1.host.com.
host.com. 172800 IN NS nsdme2.host.com.
host.com. 172800 IN NS nsdme3.host.com.
host.com. 172800 IN NS nsdme4.host.com.
;; Received 241 bytes from 192.54.112.30#53(H.GTLD-SERVERS.net) in 151 ms

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2) Add entries in my DNSMadeEasy records to specify the location of ns1.host.com and ns2.host.com.

3) Use the failover provided by DNSMadeEasy to also fail-over my DNS entries for my nameservers?

I know this would require one more hop if it works but it would allow me to provide failover ability to fifty domains without having to purchase the extra domains at DNSMadeEasy.

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