High Storage Hosting - 20 X 20 TB
Sep 24, 2009
I need to put a proposal for a client who has 20 TB data storage (files/images).
Will propose PHP/mysql - mysql for meta data of files and other authentication etc. Application/mysql could just be ~10 MB.
The storage would increase (incrementally) ~ 1 TB per year.
And data needs stored at a different place for Disaster Recovery point of view.
Need to figure storage costing.
Please give me some pointers:
a) How to find high storage hosting provider?
b) Has any one experimented with Cloud Computing, and if so any ball park potential costing? I attempt S3 and could not figure costing.
c) or any other suggestion.
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Jul 22, 2008
What are you guys using for cheap storage for backups? Tape won't work for me because I have a lot of data to be incremented every night and it all needs to be accessible 24x7 without my intervention. From what I understand about tapes (never used them) they aren't the best for getting what you need quickly.
Right now I am able to get cost per gigabyte down to 47 cents per useable gigabyte (factoring in two drives lost to a raid 6 and 90% format overhead), or about 37 cents per gigabyte for total capacity. I can achieve this by throwing a nice quad core xeon and like 4gb of memory and a nice 3ware card into a 24 drive bay supermicro system, and have the os run on a separate raid 1 on a separate card. It would be a pretty nice setup.
On the other hand, I looked at dell's powervault or whatever the storage devices are, the MD series, and things worked out to be 50.3 cents per useable gigabyte, or 42.3 cents per gigabyte for total capacity. And thats headless -- not including the actual server to interface with the 30 disk array. So that makes no sense financially, AND thats assuming that I am able to order it blank with no drives and buy my own drives, avoiding dells ridiculous 650-700$ pricing for terabyte drives.
Is there a better way to achieve low cost storage, that doesn't exactly have to be lightning fast? I only need to run rsyncs to it. I can't imagine that building a server with the array inside of it is cheaper than buying a stand alone enclosure or system for storage...not even iscsi or anything, just eSATA or something.
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Jan 20, 2009
I need a hosting with 5-10 GB Hard-drive Space and about 500 GB of bandwidth (maybe a bit less). Without any features (apache, php, etc). I need only Ftp to upload and share video files.But not very expensive, not more than $10-$20.
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Feb 2, 2009
how come the difference between shared and resellers storage is so different? If you buy shared, you can get stupid amounts of storage like 250 gigs or even unlimited for $5 a month. Yet the same company sells a reseller account for $30 and you only get 20 gigs.
Assuming you are going to split that up and sell that 20 gigs in 1 gig blocks to try and make money, why wouldn't your potential customer buy the shared account instead, and get way more space? It seems backwards to me. Shared $5 should be 20 gigs, and resellers $30 should be 250 gigs. I'm talking about big name trusted sites, not fly-by-nights who have unlimited everything.
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Dec 17, 2008
I've gone Geek! I just switched to GeekStorage hosting a little less than a month ago, because my previous host was just ridiculous. I won't get into it because I could go on for days about my old host, it was just plain horrible. I'm not really one to mudsling or drag people's livelihoods down, so I'll just let them remain anonymous. Alot of the problems probably weren't in their control but they were numerous. That's enough of that though, because I've packed my bags for greener pastures and don't even want to look back.
Anyways, so I've been at Geek Storage for about a month now, on a shared hosting plan.
In this time I must say that I have been quite impressed with them. I've been through a number of hosts throughout the years, and have been studying the hosting game for years now. So since I know what to look for, I shopped around here at WHT for a couple of months and was drawn to Geekstorage. It was not an easy decision to make, finding a host, I'm very very picky.
First of all, I've fallen in love with the Litespeed http server. I still have all the benefits of apache, such as mod_rewrite, and any other apache modules. With Litespeed, PHP code executes blazingly fast. When I first benchmarked a Zend framework bootstrap on the servers, I fell in love. And once it was cached in memory... well let's just say it was like the time when Bruce Willis was dead at the end of the Sixth Sense. This is coming from a HUGE performance stickler... I am rarely impressed by these kinds of things. Some bigger MySQL queries that took ~0.148s to execute on my old host don't even have a benchmark reading on these servers (they round off to 0.00001s). I don't know why there was such a remarkable difference, perhaps just more memory available on the server compared to my last host.
The servers have Ruby/RoR installed, as well as Python. I am a really big fan of Python, in fact I believe it will take over the scripting world in the coming years, becoming more popular than PHP and Perl. So this was a selling point to me, since I want to get into Django development more.
Another selling point to me was PostgreSQL databases. Though I am using MySQL for all my current projects, the scope of some bigger projects I am looking into getting off the ground in the future (when I can only find the time...), require a more robust database system. What's funny is when I first signed up for GeekStorage the PostgreSQL database connection settings weren't working correctly, and PhpPgAdmin (the postgreSQL phpmyadmin equivalent) was not working. I sent in a support ticket and the problem was solved almost immediately. I think I may be the first client to use the pgsql databases!
I guess I should probably put a link to one of my sites here. This one's kinda greyhat, in fact I wouldn't even reccomend going to it because I've shoved an barrage of ads onto the page. The myspace crowd seems to love them. Here's the URL anyways:
[url]. Coming soon: Popups and peel away ads,
I haven't experienced any downtime, any slow page loads, or any other problems of that nature. I hope it continues to be that way, and as for now I am very happy with my decision. The best part to me, is it seems I have found people just as geeky about technology as me. Everything is the current version, Ruby, pgsql, mysql, PHP, etc. All up to date and ready to go. I love staying current on technology, and the Geeks really seem to know their stuff.
And before you ask I'll be sure to give the 3-month, 6-month, and 1-year reviews in due time Geek Storage Web Hosting
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Sep 26, 2008
Which companies besides for Dreamhost allow the storage of backup files on their shared hosting accounts?
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Sep 20, 2007
I'm completely torn on going the absolute budget route vs spending more for something that'll allow easy upgradeability in the future. I basically need lots of space but file sending-- media like mp3s, video, etc.
it'll be raid 5 and I'll need at least 2-3TB initially but the ability to expand would be nice.
option 1:
nice chassis with plenty of hotswap bays with sas expanders
expensive sas raid card
option 2:
cheap chassis to serve "immediate" needs and go with more later.
not sure what I'd use as a card? maybe even onboard?
regarding reliability: I once saw a database of failure rates of different models. raptor was the most reliable of the "desktop" drives. anyone have the link? I'm wondering of the seagate ES drives are worth the extra money vs the non-ES drives. they're supposedely more reliable and the "server versions" of sata drives.
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Mar 27, 2009
My earlier one month review of Geek Storage got deleted with the whole WHT-take over thing, and I figured it was about time to write a new review anyways.
GeekStorage has been a dream host for me. I have a developer package with them. I recently upgraded my account to unlimited domains, because I am slowly migrating all my domains and sites over to them.
I am paying ~$7 a month for a ton of features. I could actually get it cheaper, if I paid more in advance. Right now I'm paying quarterly, but after this next session I will most likely switch to yearly and get an even better rate. I'm getting 10GB storage, 250GB bandwith (the next upgrade would be $8/month for 25GB/500GB). I get unlimited domains, MySQL, PostGreSQL, blah blah blah. So it's feature rich, very affordable, and it's not overselling.
The features outweigh anything I've seen. The setup for PHP performance sticklers like me is incredible. The Litespeed web server is the way to go in my opinion. It has the ability to use apache modules, so that is great for easily modifying rewrite rules and whatnot with an .htaccess. Litespeed is so incredibly fast, I'll never settle for less again. Hopefully, as long as GeekStorage keeps up it's act I won't have to!
If you ever want an Apache or CGI module or anything of that nature, all you have to do is submit a ticket and they'll install it! I've never seen such a personal host where you can make requests like that.
GeekStorage also has PostgreSQL, a major selling point for me. However, nobody else on the server uses it. I say this because my only ticket so far was when I first joined GeekStorage and PhpPgAdmin (postgresql phpmyadmin equivalent) did not connect correctly. I put in a ticket and they fixed it right away.
Downtime? I haven't had any. I'm not sure how to track that, but I have some moderate volume niche sites that are constantly getting organic traffic. I have consistently made sales through these sites and have not noticed any drop-off. Everytime I go any of my sites hosted at GeekStorage, they load up quickly. I'm at ease of not having to worry about my sites going down.
Most of my sites are kinda greyhat, so I don't like to post them. So here's one you can use to confirm I have hosting with GeekStorage: [url]
So their website is: GeekStorage.com. If you want fast shared hosting, tons of features, lots of space and bandwith without overselling, and people who know what the *@)# they're doing, and all at an awesome price-- then I can recommend GeekStorage. They've been a class act so far
If you have any questions or something I didn't get to I'll try to keep an eye on this thread, otherwise you can PM me.
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Jul 18, 2008
Just got a letter from InMotion. They don't like I uploaded my backup files to them, which makes their hosting benefits totally pointless to me and I will be moving to some other cheaper hosting since I basically only use email.
So I need some place to store my backups... I need only about 5 Gb, and I don't care about bandwidth, as I don't plan to download them unless all my HDDs will burn or get stolen or something so I don't need bandwidth. And it should be no more than few bucks/mo.
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Oct 26, 2008
For those host which are not overselling, they have obviously the space for file storage. But should they allow file storage on their shared hosting account, if they aren't overselling, and the files are legal?
Well, this can also be counted as a survey I need
It would be best if you provide a reason if your vote is no.
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on good hosting setups for getting large amounts of disk space.
I would like to be able to offer up to 2Gb storage space for 100s, maybe up to a few 1000 users - any solution should scale well. The files would be static files that might be up to 400Mb in size.
It would be nice to be able to give users FTP access to their disk space, although it's not a core requirement.
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company that can offer me super fast php hosting. It will be large loads with upto 20 php requests a second, the load is so much that i am currently running mysql on a dedicated mysql server.
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Other than Rackspace, can the good folks here recommend some data-centers that have experience in handling the following solutions:
SAN (F/C, 10Gbps), 9TB usable capacity, complete redundancy, and real-time mirroring to an additional SAN in a separate geographic location.
redundant Brocade SAN switches
Servers: Quad processors, quad core, 48GB RAM, 8x146GB SAS Drives, multiple 1Gbps NICs
VMWare installations and handling.
Load balancers (preferably Brocade)
Dedicated L3 switches
I'm not just looking at providing this, but someone who can truly manage it 24/7 - management from VMWare and SAN perspective.
I saw some niche datacenters, but ran into the following problems:
(a) singular location.
(b) support for VMWare and SAN provided during business hours only
(c) no prior experience in real-time SAN replication / VMWare, Oracle/MS-SQL Replication.
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Right now, however, I want a quality US-based hosting company that has good connection to EU, with fast support and basic features: PHP5, MySQL5, shell access, ~10GB HD space and ~50-100GB traffic.
First and foremost I am looking for quality and am prepared to pay as much as $25-30 per month.
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I am looking to go to another hosting company that is just as good as Aplus.NET, if not better... with a better traffic rate. A friend told me about Choopa.com and I wanted to know how good of a company they were. What are some other top reliable hosting companies with premium servers and that specialize in unmetered bandwidth?
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The site was overloading a shared server, and we've moved it to one of our VPS boxes - it's the only VPS on the system at the moment. The box is a Quad Xeon 5410 with 4GB RAM with a 4 10K RPM drives in a RAID5 setup.
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I'd like to get your recommendations on how I should approach this problem. I posted this in another part of the forum, but I feel that this is a more appropriate place for it.
Problem:
How to handle large amounts of traffic with for a social network website? If a user uploads a photo or video, how does it become accessible on all of the server? If traffic is expected to be about 500,000 visitors a day, how many machines do you think I should use?
Possible Solution:
I've come up with the following possible infrastructure.
One load balancer. The load balancer has 3 PHP/Apache servers behind it. Behind each of the PHP/Apache servers is a (slave) MySQL server, from which data is read. Behind the slave MySQL servers, there is 1 master MySQL server, which handles all of the database writes. The master MySQL and slave MySQL servers are synced up, so data is up to date.
The actual photo and video files are not stored in the database, only the links to them is stored in the database (to keep the database small). The photo and video reside in a central location (like a SAN or NAS), which is accessible by all of the 3 PHP/Apache webservers.
Questions:
1. How many machines do you think will be able to handle photo and video uploads for 500,000 visitors a day?
2. Is having a SAN with Terabytes of RAIDED disk space an available option?
3. If a SAN or NAS is not an option, does anyone have any ideas on how to make sure all of the web servers have access to the same photos and videos? Is rsync a viable solution?
4. Which hosting provider do you think I should go with?
5. Is clustering what I need? What is clustering and how will it address my concerns?
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Jun 14, 2008
I'd like to get your recommendations on how I should approach this problem.
Problem:
How to handle large amounts of traffic with for a social network website? If a user uploads a photo or video, how does it become accessible on all of the server? If traffic is expected to be about 500,000 visitors a day, how many machines do you think I should use?
Possible Solution:
I've come up with the following possible infrastructure.
One load balancer. The load balancer has 3 PHP/Apache servers behind it. Behind each of the PHP/Apache servers is a (slave) MySQL server, from which data is read. Behind the slave MySQL servers, there is 1 master MySQL server, which handles all of the database writes. The master MySQL and slave MySQL servers are synced up, so data is up to date.
The actual photo and video files are not stored in the database, only the links to them is stored in the database (to keep the database small). The photo and video reside in a central location (like a SAN or NAS), which is accessible by all of the 3 PHP/Apache webservers.
Questions:
1. How many machines do you think will be able to handle photo and video uploads for 500,000 visitors a day?
2. Is having a SAN with Terabytes of RAIDED disk space an available option?
3. If a SAN or NAS is not an option, does anyone have any ideas on how to make sure all of the web servers have access to the same photos and videos? Is rsync a viable solution?
4. Which hosting provider do you think I should go with?
5. Is clustering what I need? What is clustering and how will it address my concerns?
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Here is what I have thought of until now.
Site's sales page (which also happens to be the first page that visitors hit) hosted with Amazon S3 service. All public media files are off loaded to amazon S3 service to keep the number of requests on the hosted setup to minimum.
At the front we can have a high performance firewall like Cisco ASA 5520 followed by two dedicated load balancers in Active/Active state.
Behind the load balancers we have 3 front end servers acting as web-servers. These have SAS disks, 4GB RAM, RAID 1 setup, Dual Xeon Quad core processors each.
Behind the front end servers - we have a dedicated load balancer for the database cluster.
The database cluster consists of 3 Storage/API nodes and one of the front end servers acts as the management node. Each storage node has 8GB RAM, Dual Xeon Quad core processors, 4x RAID 10, SAS setup.
The private network is on a GigaLan.
Do you see any possible/obvious flaw in this design or anything that should be added/subtracted from the setup?
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Until now i have looked at:
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(as @mail, exelent support but slow in Europe)
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(is always good to be powered by rackspace but i think that the cloud hosting concept is still unsstable. Any experience?
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An in Europe, any company similar to mediatemple or simplehelix?
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So, we need a really robust hosting, to work with PHP5 and MYSQL.
My previous go-to hosting provider was Lunarpages, but their customer service has gone down the crapper, and I've just about had it with them. My main questions are:
Should I be looking into getting a dedicated server, or are there hosting companies that can handle this kind of traffic on a shared server? I don't have experience administrating a server, so if we got a dedicated one we would have to pay the host to do at least some of the setup/administration, I would assume?
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When I was still inside SSH when it happens, the processes I can see inside "top" are a lot of httpd processes.
So I "killall -9 httpd", I had to do it 30~40 times
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#killall -9 httpd
#killall -9 httpd
x 30~40 times until no pid process found & the server load is back to normal.
Before that, I check httpd fullstatus, they look very normal, same goes to what I see inside WHM Apache status & cpu usage status.
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