Does LimeStoneNetworks.com Sell UNLIMITED SPACE For Reseller

Nov 10, 2008

I traced this sites:

Tracing route to vertualhost.com [69.162.111.77]

over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1161 ms 797 ms 839 ms <hidden>
2 673 ms 876 ms 821 ms <hidden>
3 574 ms 839 ms 881 ms 10.137.4.81
4 743 ms 863 ms 857 ms 10.137.4.42
5 661 ms 899 ms 779 ms <hidden>
6 570 ms 875 ms 840 ms <hidden>
7 774 ms 462 ms 784 ms <hidden>
8 544 ms 401 ms 359 ms <hidden>
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 831 ms 562 ms 539 ms so-3-1.hsa1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.78.205.157
]
11 578 ms 557 ms 562 ms vlan52.csw2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.102.62]
12 469 ms 460 ms 457 ms ae-72-72.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.2
1]
13 683 ms 682 ms 576 ms ae-3.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.78]
14 609 ms 581 ms 580 ms ae-63-63.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.154]
15 567 ms 599 ms 557 ms ae-13-69.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.5]
16 592 ms 599 ms 618 ms LIMESTONE-N.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.71.120.66
]
17 573 ms 558 ms 580 ms 1-203-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.203.1]
18 676 ms 581 ms 580 ms 6-203-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.203.6]
19 510 ms 577 ms 580 ms 74-201-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.201.74]
20 663 ms 580 ms 581 ms vertualhost.com [69.162.111.77]
Trace complete.
AND:
Tracing route to yourservers.info [69.162.111.66]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1414 ms 761 ms 664 ms <hidden>
2 1038 ms 1036 ms 680 ms 10.19.18.233
3 374 ms 1421 ms 376 ms 10.137.4.81
4 437 ms 1278 ms 1019 ms 10.137.4.42
5 1162 ms 783 ms 797 ms 10.145.176.130
6 525 ms 359 ms 377 ms 10.145.176.133
7 371 ms 378 ms 378 ms <hidden>
8 646 ms 420 ms 359 ms <hidden>
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * 4187 ms so-3-1.hsa1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [
]
11 1618 ms 1499 ms 2183 ms vlan51.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [
12 658 ms 1522 ms 996 ms ae-62-62.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net
7]
13 2261 ms 1458 ms 3320 ms ae-3.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.1
14 1655 ms 2463 ms 1435 ms ae-63-63.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.
15 1762 ms 1817 ms 2062 ms ae-13-69.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.
16 1718 ms 1340 ms 2638 ms LIMESTONE-N.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net
]
17 2300 ms 455 ms 1739 ms 1-203-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.
18 1421 ms 420 ms 1978 ms 6-203-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63.
19 461 ms 437 ms 599 ms 74-201-63-74.reverse.lstn.net [74.63
20 541 ms 576 ms 581 ms hostingwitch.com [69.162.111.66]

how can they sell UNLIMITED ALPHA MASTER RESELLER to others?

Is that true that they are your customer?

All I know is, You do not sell unlimited space at limestonenetworks.com.

Are those sites cheaters or are the illegal? I did not find a specific or complete postal address or person name on those sites.

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