I'm in the final stages of bidding on a 10-rack cage, it's come between Internap and Switch & Data.
I know the good about hosting with both of them. Who can tell me the bad?
Please, don't email me telling me about your datacenter, because I'm not looking at any other providers this late in the game.
Switch And Data, a provider of network neutral data centers and colocation services, just had an IPO yesterday. They filed to sell about 1/3 of their shares priced at the high end ($17). I was wondering if anyone here had personal experience with the company, and could offer some insight on how they stack up versus Equinix and other competitors.
Switch And Data trading symbol: SDXC
Equinix trading symbol: EQIX
Equinix has been up a lot this year and has a huge market cap of 2.3Bil ($80/share), with revenues of 269Mil, gross profit 63.7Mil, net income -49Mil.
I calculated Switch And Data has around 35.9 million total shares, which puts its current market cap at around 720Mil ($20/share). I couldn't find any 2006 numbers, but in 2005 they had 105Mil revenues and -11.3Mil net income.
How comparable are these two companies? Does SDXC deserve to trade at a comparable level to EQIX? What do the experts at WHT think?
Recently, we expanded our space with Switch and Data. They didn't have any cabinets physically next to our current ones, so they offered us cross-connects with an NRC only (no MRC) between our own existing space and the new. (Of course I didn't get this on the same 1-year contract as everything else.) After a few months, I noticed they've been billing us for them, so I contact our rep. Apparently she "wasn't authorized" to do that, so after some heated emails they're removing the charges to date and charging us the MRCs moving forward. It's over $7K a year for the two.
They also upped their minimum labor charge, so it now cost $175 to have them sign for a FedEx or have any other minimal amount of work done. We have an on-site employee who manages our equipment, but obviously he won't sit there waiting for UPS/FedEx a few times a month. Two instances last month there were employees on site and it cost an hour of labor for them to physically walk two packages onto the data center floor from the front office.
While installing another cross-connect recently, they knocked our patch panel just enough to disconnect a fiber. They charged us for the two hours it took to debug and rectify the issue. The on-site techs assertion was that it must have been "loose" to begin with - of course it worked fine for 6 months prior. You would think a sales person would side with you in a case like this, but they wouldn't budge.
They must be really keen on driving away customers. What really sucks is the connectivity available at their facilities is so amazing. I would brush it off as the cost of doing business if they were up front on all these things, but they aren't.
Let's open those floodgates of opinion!
View 14 Replies View RelatedWould a consumer Gigabit switch work in the DC for sharing a connection with like 2-3 servers?
Obviously, I am not looking for features like bandwidth control and other pluses from enterprise switches....
looking for resellers at switch and data in miami. need a half rack and bandwidth from cogent and xo for 90 days starting march 1st.
View 2 Replies View RelatedWe are in need of some space in the Switch and Data facility located at 60 Hudson, NYC. This is not negotiable, it absolutely has to be at 60 Hudson in Switch and Data.
We don't need a full cabinet, a 1/4 cab would suffice (or even really 2U - 4U).
Can anyone recommend a company that has space in that facility that is willing to sell this small of an amount?
Here's my plan: colo servers for VoIP in either Switch and Data NYC or Telehouse NYC (or possibly Equinix Newark NJ). Purchase bandwidth from InvisibleHand.net, who can give me a direct connection of IP bandwidth from DTAG DeutscheTelecom
People say DTAG has awesome bandwidth, and I know I can get it pretty cheap from InvisibleHand.
Any comments on this plan? Which of the 3 locations is best for the price? I don't want to buy from a reseller (since they may go under). I want my colo direct from whoever owns it like Switch and Data.
We currently have a OK solution to monitor and graph our client bandwidth at the switch port. It's a great product, but we have been expanding quickly and we are looking for a solution that is a bit more scalable and user friendly. Any recommendations?
Basically we want software to do the following:Monitor/log bandwidth in/out
Graph data in some way shape or form
Provide a web interface for users to login and view bandwidth usage
Scalable and cost effective
Easy to use
Windows or Linux
If you don't feel comfortable divulging what you use, just PM me. Also, we are already aware of MRTG.
I am paying $50.00 for my vps account. Here are the details of my account.
20 Gigabytes Storage
200 GB's Transfer
384MB RAM Guaranteed
2 IP Addresses
Cpanel/WHM/Fantastico/XController
Fully Managed Support
What deals and services are out there. I am looking at spending a little less as I only
need 5gig of space and half the transfer.
Server specs are available directly via pm.
It's my first post, but I thought it would be useful to create a list with links to public statistics of uptime of VPS's of different hosting.
Hyper-v windows 2003 vps at webspacedepot.com
serviceuptime.com/users/uptimemonitoring.php?S=8621c2c30f85e3fadc3d6f056170db65&Id=14678
(I don't have 5 post yet so I can't link it)
I am trying to make a decision on switching from my current VPS hosting to a dedicated solution. If I rent the server in the next 24 hours from Theplanet, I can get a Celeron 2.0+ with 1GB of ram and an 80GB hd for $74/month (plus $25 setup). $15/month of that is for doubling the ram to 512MB, so I could get the same without that for $59/month.
Comparisons:
VPS: 2 1.6Mhz Dual-Core AMD Opteron Processor 2210 HE's, I don't know how many people share that
Dedi: Celeron 2.0, all mine. (and yes, I know that is potentially a bit of a downgrade)
VPS: 512MB ram and 1024MB swap
Dedi: 1024MB ram (guessing I set my own swap size?)
VPS: 25GB allocated space
Dedi: 80GB hd
VPS: 1.5Mbps connection
Dedi: 10Mbps connection
VPS: CP+ control panel
Dedi: None included (could install Webmin myself, which is free, never used it before though)
VPS: Their DNS servers
Dedi: Need to use my own
So basically the parts I don't know the difference between would be the processor, the control panel, and what the performance impact on running primary and secondary DNS servers on the same box as the webserver. Anyone have any feedback on those points?
Separate question... assuming I go for it, what would be the deciding factors on OS, if the choices were CentOS 4.x, CentOS 5.x, FreeBSD 6.3, or FreeBSD 7.0?
What's a reliable method of comparing the network speed between two providers? They often put up a 50MB or 100MB file to download, but I'm not certain how to go about testing their bandwidth.
I can't just download the file from my home connection -- my link is probably capped at 10 Mbps. Is there an external service that I can use?
As a non-tech but looong term sufferer in the Hosting biz both as a consumer and VERY briefly a supplier ( strictly for masochists IMHO ), over the years I found it was only specific individuals - not the Hosting Company that was the key point.
Good support people are really needed more today than ever before. It is sooo complex - as follows:
We are looking at leaving our unsupported VERY small Dedicated Server after two years of frustration trying to get a secure, reliable system going without success. A mixed bag of problems: Us being non-geeks, OS problems, Server problems.
We are looking at going back to a VPS in the light of amazing claims being made for them today.
A fraction of the cost of Dedicated and yet *claims* of astounding capability. CLAIMS...
That's why I'm here today with you. I need help sorting the facts out. Can a VPS that : is "burstable" for RAM and with amazing pipe access and volume allowance and the new concept of "sorta like load balancing" sharing workload over possibly hundreds of Servers in a giant cluster" actually be real?
If this is true it would be Server heaven for me as the Provider has to do all the Geek-stuff!
I already have a web account with a shared web host. My site is growing. I want to buy a new account with a different web host but I'm afraid that the servers will be slower (the specs are better, but maybe it has more sites hosted on it or they are dishonest etc.?).
So, when I buy the new hosting account, can I simply copy and paste my site over and see which server serves the page faster? Then I should be able to decide which server to associate the domain name with...
a sales told me i can buy two switch and do series connection,
then if one fail,another will continue to work,
it will take high HA,
but i still can not understand how to do it and work,
could you know what it is?
I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question or not .. but, i am going to try.
I would like to get more informations about nLayer.
Is it good internet provider? Can they be compared with Internap for example? ( if it can be asked that way .. )
I need more info regarding stability, connections with Europe from USACDN etc.
I see that FDC is offering $12 per Mbit/sec for InterNAP bandwidth. I'm really interest on this offer. Are there anyone colocating severs at FDC and using their InterNAP bandwidth? if so, could you please give me some reviews and your experience?
How is their support and InterNAP bandwidth?
who would you pick? Timewarner or Internap?
View 14 Replies View RelatedMy colo is charging about $80/Mbit, they use InterNAP. Is that reasonable? This is in west coast/california.
That brings me to my other question, how do you know whats a good network? How is hurricane electric compared to InterNAP?
fixedorbit.com shows HE on the top 10 list and shows a lot of peering. I don't see InterNAP on that list at all! Does that mean thats it not as good?
The more peering, the better? (I guess we assume that the network provider isn't over selling and isn't cramming a lot of customers into a single port etc...)
I'm looking at bringing Internap bandwidth into my new cage at the AtlantaNAP to cross connect with a cabinet at 250 Williams.
View 3 Replies View RelatedI am looking for info on Aveas in Seattle. They seem to have gone out of business (domain expired) and hence I also can't send emails to them.
Does anybody have info what happened, where they have gone, and if somebody is still around somewhere? I am looking for Kelly Kline.
I am trying to find out if one of our old company servers is still with them (was in their cabinet), and if a backup could be retrieved for a fee.
I am trying to find dedicated/managed hosts that colo with internap. So far found Softlayer.
View 10 Replies View RelatedI am getting my quote back Tuesday but need a little bargaining power with these guys...
Oakland, Ca datacenter
40mbps, 20A, 42U rack.
What should I be looking at price range here, how much per mbps?
Only info I've seen is from 2003 where people were saying $200/mbps. Obviously prices have come WAY down. I've seen people on here reselling internap bandwidth for $12/mbps, but they might have bought a huge commit.
Does anyone have any ballpark figures on how much InterNAP charges per-mbit on a 200Mbit commit over gig-e?
View 14 Replies View RelatedWe are in the process of starting a new project for a client and we are trying to decide which network to place it on.
We have a choice of a Level3/Time Warner mix or pure Internap. Obviously the Internap bandwidth is a bit more expensive, but since this customers website serves an international community we are thinking that Internap bandwidth would be well worth the cost.
What are the advantages of using Internap? How is the network performance? We've setup a machine on the Internap network and have begun running tests, but I would like to hear from people who have direct experience with Internap bandwidth.
After running 6 or so dedicated servers purchased thru several different resellers, my company decided to get a rack at the Chicago InterNap DC.
The quote we got was $3,400 per month inclusive of cabinet, Usage based 10/100, and Cross connects.
Have a couple questions.
A) Is that price in the ballpark of where it should be?
and
B) Our quote states Usage based 100mb Ethernet (10MBps Min). Tier2 at $150 month and $1,400 for the 10.00 Mbps Base. Being new to this, I have no idea exactly how much bandwidth we can use before the "usage" fees kick in.
How does this work?
As we are finishing our migration plans to Cisco OER. I would like to get everyone's thoughts on the low latency "brand name" internap bandwidth.
Do you think that the high priced brandname is going to continue with Cisco finally releasing OER to what a large number of datacenters use as their primary core switch? In my eyes the FCP and the Avaya/RouteScience platform just lost a lot of value. The OER product looks very complete and in testing works excellent, the final verdict will be in what the platform actually does.
If you are wondering Cisco OER information can be found here [url]
Which one has the best routes to Asia, especially South East Asia?
View 14 Replies View RelatedWho are the people/companies with a good reputation with the WHT community who provide Internap or Peer1 colo? And it seems it's mostly in LA or NY, I know both Peer1 and Internap have a presence in other places, is there anyone reselling out of anywhere else?
Pure Internap or Pure Peer1 hosts only please. The only one I know of right now is H4Y.us
I have been reading quite a bit lately about the Internap FCP. I am wondering how much it actually improves network performance and how it compares to BGP4. We currently use BGP4, but are considering using a data center with the Internap FCP for a project for a client.
I am looking for reviews from others who have experience with the Internap FCP and it's performance. How does it compare to a network using BGP4? I know that FCP uses more intelligent routing than BGP, but how big of an improvement does it make?