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Jul 30, 2007

I'm upgrading my server again and now that we have 8 disks we need to upgrade our power supply (I was told).

But do I really need a redundant power supply Or can I just buy ONE 650 watt to upgrade?

These are my current server specs:

Quote:

2 X AMD opteron 270 dual core
2 X 2 GB kingston PC3200 DDR ram
2 X 1 GB kingston PC3200 DDR ram
(6 GB total)
8 X seagate cheetah 15k.5 SCSI 73.4 GB, U320, SCA in raid 10
1 X LSI megaraid 320-2x raid controller, dual channel
1 X Tyan thunder 8KSE (s2892) mobo
1 X 2 * 4 port chenbro scsi backplane (8 ports total)
2 X AMD CPU cooler
2 X 40X40X10 fans
(Currently 1 X zippy P2G-6510P, 2U, single power supply, 510 Watt)
1 X Sony FDD 1.44"
1 X chenbro RM311, 3U case with 8 hot swap bays
1 X LG DVD/CD-rom burner

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