Litespeed Enterprise Review
Mar 3, 2008
15 days review .. litespeed enterprise web server
We have installed litespeed on our 4 servers ...
2 are cpanel
1 is Direct admin
1 is Plesk ..
All have websites running shopping carts, joomla cms, drupal cms, os commerce, etc....
None of our customers had any problem ... and all of them reported super fast loading ..
static websites load in a zoom ...
also cpanel loads 'like a bullet' with litespeed .. compared to apache on same server .. cpanel loads 2x times fast ...
we had problem of ddos on one of the servers .. now with litespeed its all history ..
also it seems now we can host double websites on same server with litespeed .. it reduces hardware costs ..no wonder wordpress.com uses litespeed ..
we have also tried lighthttpd .. but its too complicated ... litespeed is like plug and play usb ...
also there support is fast and have active forums ...
and they regularly come out with updates and its easy to upgrade ...and instructions in there wiki is simple and clear ..
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Jun 28, 2007
SO the last few months I been trying like crazy to tweak Apache or find a better http setup such as running lighttpd with Apache, etc. I have been frustrated by the way Apache easily fork bombs under any decent load or dos attack. You get about 100 bots all making 30+ connections a piece on Apache and it kills it.
Bot kids have adapted to ddos protection and connection flooding banning by sending low bandwidth attacks that do not make enough connections to get banned if you do have protection, its real low bandwidth incoming but is like a massive vampire attack outgoing. And it destroys Apache no matter what you do, what modules you have, etc. You basically have to go in and manually ban or set your connection tracking limit down to where it starts banning regular users too.
So I seen on here somewhere someone recommending litespeed to someone so I went and checked it out and was amazed by the performance. I installed the trial enterprise in a p4 server I been having problems out of lately crashing all because a busy site and I installed it in my main server.
The only thing I needed to do was compile my own php5 for it, which is real easy via their wiki instruction. After a few snags here in there I finally got it working tip top on both servers, both of which are cpanel.
So with the p4 that was always crashing and keeping hi load, We would end up having to remote reboot that box almost once a week not due to any misconfiguration or wrong setup, just couldnt take all that Apache usage and would die. We instantly noticed a difference with litespeed. The average load used to be about 1-2 always, with litespeed the average stayed about ..2 even under heavy traffic. So this was a big improvement and we have not had to reboot that box since.
My main server which I take my high risk clients on, core2duo 2.4. I thought there for a Lil bit the sites were starting to outgrow the server as its average load always was around 1 which was fairly acceptable seeing the traffic it gets so normal for Apache.
During the low bandwidth ddos attacks I would have to go in and manually ban as well as setting connection limit way down just to keep it from lagging, most of the time it still did. So I was really wanting to do something for this server to optimize http without upgrading, because it seems most of your hardware upgrades are to suit Apache anyway.
So I installed litespeed on my main server, ran into a few snags here and there but eventually got it under control. Just the last few days I got to see it put to the test.
I took on a client who was being extorted by a ddoser who recently got him kicked off his previous host. SO as soon as dns resolves here comes the crapstorm. A low bandwidth http attack, a lot got by ddos firewall on the network level which these are hard to stop because they are so similar to a legit user.
So I started getting hundreds of csf connection tracking blocked emails, was checking the site periodically and it loaded fine. So I logged in the box, looked at the load.
Was at .24. When I done netstat command there was hundreds of syns coming in and about 250 ips all connected about 50 times, this would normally kill Apache no matter what CPU/ram and all that you have. So I set connection tracking down to a reasonable level, 60 connections and I figured I would just let them get themselves banned. Looking in the live stats in the litespeed admin panel which is real cool BTW. I was seeing about 400 requests a second. This was eating a Lil bandwidth, all outgoing as that is how the attack works like a massive vamp attack. So about 2000 connection tracking emails later finally gets em all banned. The entire time the load on that box never even got to 1!
So im pretty much amazed how fast and light this http server is. And especially how well it handles dos. I about know for a fact even if you was on a non protected network it could handle as much http as your pipe will give it, and do all this at a low resource load.
This will end up saving me money on hardware upgrades in the future as well. Long review, long story, but I been so amazed by this http server I had to make a review on it. Im sure some geniouses will try to say "If you do this and that with apache you can make it just as good" But check it out for yourselves and see.
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Aug 14, 2007
(This is the first review I've ever written for practically anything so please bear with me. I feel the need to share my experience to try to help others after all the great advice and info I've received around here.)
If you've done everything you think you can do to improve the responsiveness of your websites like add a mysql cache, PHP opcode cache and various other tweaks, I discovered there is still one more easy thing you can do for a big improvement: replace Apache with LiteSpeed. It's way too easy not to try it and you can leave Apache completely intact to go back to at a moment's notice if you so desire.
I call LiteSpeed a "drop-in" replacement because it uses all my httpd.conf and .htaccess settings without modification. This was critical for me as my sites have some very complex rewrite rules. Other solutions like LightHttpd require extensive work to make changes if you use fancy mod-rewrite rules. LiteSpeed does not need any fiddling. LiteSpeed just adds it's own clean little web interface so you can tweak if you want to, but I didn't really have to change anything. Last but not least, LiteSpeed gets along with Cpanel and DirectAdmin without any conflicts. LiteSpeed's so compatible I can literally do this on my server and the visitors don't even notice the difference (except speed of course!)
service httpd stop
service lsws start
(and visa versa)
I discovered LiteSpeed after reading that the main WordPress.com site had switched to it and had great success (they have a quarter million registered bloggers and of course many millions more daily readers).
The main reason I tried LiteSpeed is because it's roughly twice as efficient in memory use and performance than Apache 1.3 & 2. It runs PHP up to 50% faster than Apache and static files get served several times faster (faster than thttpd & lighthttpd). So this means you can either double the number of active connections you currently max out at now, or make a regular website respond nearly twice as fast, or under heavy loads still respond within a reasonable amount of time when Apache would be completely unresponsive.
The last situation was exactly what I was hoping for and LiteSpeed helped me keep my sanity on a bad VPS node.
Basically a couple months into owning my first VPS (after many years of shared-hosting experience) I started to realise many of the industry promises about VPS are an outright lie. You are far from isolated from your neighbours. Any disk load created by bad neighbours, mysql abuse or otherwise, will directly affect you and you are powerless to stop it. It's the most poorly regulated resource on any VPS node and it can be made worse by slack, ignorant or inexperienced hosts who do things like move accounts during busy periods onto and off a node at the root level which ties up the entire node for an hour or more. Under Apache, I was getting timeouts during peak visitor times and that was very upsetting.
On top of my VPS neighbour troubles, no matter how I fiddled with Apache's settings (with all the helpful guides around here) I could not make it comfortably fit within the guaranteed memory limit of my VPS with Cpanel, which I really wanted to keep as it's much easier for my end-users. Switching to LiteSpeed caused a radical drop in memory use. I've seen nearly 1000 people online within a one minute period on one of my sites and it still fit comfortably within my memory limits and stayed extremely responsive.
I've discovered another plus to LiteSpeed along the way that no-one else seems to mention. It's the only server software that "out of the box" seems to serve web compressed (gzipped) pages properly as chunked output. This means a visitor will start to see the page immediately as soon as the first part is sent vs. on Apache, mod_gzip actually de-chunks all the output, waits for it to finish, then compresses, then sends.
Mod_deflate on Apache 2.0 was supposed to fix this but it usually doesn't work properly and I've never gotten 2.0 to do compressed+chunked output on my sites without alot of fiddling and help from PHP. It also doesn't seem as smooth as LiteSpeed's output which gives you that "silky" watch-the-webpage render effect that's mentally rewarding to visitors.
On the downside, there is one reason you wouldn't use LiteSpeed - if you use highly customised Apache mods. LiteSpeed cannot support custom mod's and their directives. It does have a lot built in however that Apache does not, so you may way to examine if you can accomplish what you are trying to do another way.
I started with LiteSpeed 3.1 and when I found an incompatibility with an obscure Apache feature (ie. ErrorDocument's as plain text output: ErrorDocument 404 "Not Found" was not supported) they fixed it for me in a day or so after I reported it on their forum. The same for PHP support of "Apache_Response_Headers". Note I am not even a commercial customer! They are now up to 3.2 which has a few other fixes.
The free version of LiteSpeed has a limit of 150 simultaneous connections (plus the linux stack of 200 more which will backlog). I've never seen that limit hit. It's so intelligent about closing connections as needed that it's not an issue for me. Perhaps on a dedicated server with many virtual hosts this will be a problem. Up to version 3.1.1 that was the only limitation, however unfortunately in 3.2 they have decided to also limit virtual hosts to "5", so that's something else you'll have to consider if you want the free version, otherwise the commercial version has a free trial and money back guarantee.
Some people were upset with me that I wouldn't name my VPS host when I was constantly complaining of troubles but that's just my style when I have nothing nice to say still have to do business with them, so don't name names. But when I have something nice to say about a company, I like to speak up. So I heartily recommend LiteSpeed and hope other people give it a try - especially if you are on my VPS node ;-)
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experienced people in Windows 2003 Server edition then me.
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Anyways, using all of the tips on the internet to disable or deactivate windows worked well but when using the Activation Wizard and entering the new product key, it just comes back to the product key area again. So I've called Microsoft and the guy on the phone wasnt able to help me nor activate the windows.
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Does anyone here have experience with Windows 2003 Server and would know why this is happening or know a fix?
Do I have to reinstall the OS?
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Feb 14, 2007
I'm also curious as to some suggestions on forums really geared towards server hardware discussion. if you know any good ones, please let me know
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I currently lease my servers. I'm planning on switching to colocation. three primary functions need to be met:
1) web server
2) mysql server
3) mass storage
I'm contemplating the best way to do this. price is a concern but I'm willing to pay more if it's warranted.
would it be a bad idea to have the mass storage and the webserver on the same machine? ie, take the web server box and just throw in a SAS/SATA RAID card and put in the extra disks. it'd obviously save in overhead costs.
if I do put them on one box, should the OS be booting from seperate physical disks from the rest of the storage?
if I don't put them on one box, ie, the web server and the storage server are seperated, what would be the ideal way to connect them? just ethernet/LAN, through a fibre connection, etc?
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Jun 15, 2007
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Jun 3, 2007
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I'm thinking about selling it, because I'd prefer a smaller, more compact server.
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bash: apt-get: command not found
apt-get install php4-gd
bash: apt-get: command not found
# up2date -i php-gd
Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: rhel-i386-es-4...
Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: rhel-i386-es-4-extras...
Fetching rpm headers...
Name Version Rel
----------------------------------------------------------
The following Packages were marked to be skipped by your configuration:
Name Version Rel Reason
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kernel 2.6.9 55.0.2.ELPkg name/pattern
kernel-devel 2.6.9 55.0.2.ELPkg name/pattern
kernel-hugemem-devel 2.6.9 55.0.2.ELPkg name/pattern
kernel-smp 2.6.9 55.0.2.ELPkg name/pattern
kernel-smp-devel 2.6.9 55.0.2.ELPkg name/pattern
php-gd 4.3.9 3.22.5Pkg name/pattern
The following packages you requested were marked to be skipped by your configuration:
php-gd
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Aug 1, 2007
1. Transferring the sites to JaguarPC
- Moving the sites to them was kinda rough, but with Veena's help
everything was fixed in the end.
I wouldn't say their tech support was not helpful, it's quite the
opposite, but sometimes though not too often, I've got the impression
I was communicating with some kind of auto reply machine.
2. Uptime
- I've had 100% uptime (measured by the third party service) for the last four-five months. It was 99.2-99.5% some months last year, including scheduled maintenance downtime, server move, etc.
3. Transfer speed, site speed
There had been problems in the past year with site speed and extremely low transfer rates in/out, but it was fixed. I can see all of my sites up and loading pretty quickly.
4. Server load
When I had a big vbulletin board and gallery hosted on my VPS, I should admit I was experiencing server load problems now and then especially when 100+ people tried to use Flash Chat.
I don't have this board anymore, and therefore no server load problems.
5. Tech Support
- In general quite solid and reliable, but a bit uneven.
While some of their tech staff is brilliant and replies within 30 min,
and makes sure the problem is fixed, there were a few that probably
didn't read the tickets properly and didn't understand the nature of the
problem right away.
But then again, their tech support managed to assist me every time I needed them last year.
Don't know much about current situation now, I haven't tried to contact JaguarPC Tech Support for quite a while, which actually is a very good sign, right?
6. Price
- Very reasonable, among the lowest in the market as far as I could see. And they also have Cpanel included in the price, lots of features, traffic, and pretty good storage space.
7. Conclusion
- So far I see no reason at all to change my hosting provider. I think I will continue a bit longer, a year (or two?).
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Mar 31, 2009
In a 2 X Quad Xeon server with 16GB RAM and 2 X 500GB on DirectAdmin.
IOwait is less than 10% most of the times.
So litespeed told me to go with a 2 CPU core license.
1. So since i going with 2 CPU core license. It will only make 2 cores user litespeed for PHP out of 8 cores? what other cores gonna do? only static content? Or other cores gonna use Apache for php? can you plz explain.
2. Do we have to configure cache like mod_cache, mod_disk_cache, and mod_mem_cache etc with litespeed too? Or it has its own methods of caching?
3. Should use their PHP LiteSpeed SAPI over normal PHP?
Is there any compatibility problems with scripts like Vbulletin, jamroom?
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Is anyone using the latest Virtual Iron or Xen Enterprise in a high end environment?
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My litespeed is not using httpd.conf
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I have a site hosted at steadfast.net - I like it very much especially the speed is Great and the prices are Good. However i am having a lot of connection errors and MySQL Problems.
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