Which Is Best? Colocation Or A Dedicated Server?
Oct 13, 2009Which is the best? Colocation or a dedicated server?
I am going to launch a site, expecting a huge database on it.
Which is the best? Colocation or a dedicated server?
I am going to launch a site, expecting a huge database on it.
whether colocated or dedicated is a better choice.
I'm looking for something that I can have managed - I don't want to be tied to the server 24/7, and that can grow as needed - so that if I need to get a separate DB server, or move into a load-balanced cluster, I can take that step relatively easily.
We are looking for an affordable yet reliable colocation in northern Europe. We only need 1 or 2 U at this point and would be willing to lease the servers if the price was right.
We are not dumb and are willing to spend money on reliable service but we do not need a full rack or anything like that as our European business is small (only 2 servers right now with the need for a 3rd) and we do not have any aggressive strategy to grow this.
We would be interested in any deals in terms of providing space or routing services in the US in exchange for some in Europe as we are looking to form a strong partnership with a host on the grow.
A dedicated server comes around 200 USD [ good specs with softwares ].
What about colocating our own server?. How much would it charge and what are the necessary things to look on before going towards it.
I was a webhost from a while ago leasing dedicated servers and eventually went to work for the datacenter where I had my colo. For a while now I've working with a neat group of 5-6 other folks programming a new uptime monitor/geo-dispersed server load testing system/software. We were looking for possible partners to keep hosting costs down during the alpha stage of the project but while we were drawing up the papers, we saw just too much opportunity for a conflict of interest to arise and realized we couldn't realistically associate ourselves with any single company to that degree. So after a little work and fundraising, we're finally in a position to either lease some servers or colo.
Since I've been out of the loop for a while, I just want to know who the major/reliable players are when it comes to leasing or colo machines in multiple areas (ideally East, Middle, West, Canada and Europe/Asia? We would prefer to be with one company for ease of billing and have our network of monitoring stations spread out geographically. But we don't want all of our eggs in one basket so if a provider goes belly-up or decides to hike our rates 30-40% with little notice, we won't have too much to worry about.
We're watching what we spend during the alpha stage very closely, but I've been insisting we can strike the right balance between cost and reliability (connectivity).
I've had a look at the different types of hosting, and had a guess at the description,
Shared
A machine with many, many domains on each for individual customer.
E-Commerce
Same as above with SSL?
Dedicated
One machine to yourself, one domain?
Managed
?
VPS
You have a dedicated potion of a machine to use as many domains on as you want?
Colocation
You own the server, someone else looks after it.
Reseller
Hard Disk space and Bandwidth to be apportioned to each domain as you see fit, cpanel with each domain so that you can 'resell'
So what type of hosting would I want to host 5 to 10 of my own websites that use around 100GB a month bandwidth?
I am planning to make my hands dirty by buying couple of server which can host one server with hits upto 10000 hits per day and another one to host to have shared hosting.
Could you please give some guidance about the type of server that I need to buy and I also need a good colocation service in london area which can offer 100 MBPS with unlimited bandwidth. (May be I am stupid here in asking about the bandwidth).
I've been shopping for colocation (1U) in South Florida and the prices I've been getting were much higher then if I would just lease a server at a datacenter. I thought you could save alot of money since you are only leasing space and bandwith.
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View 7 Replies View RelatedI have a few questions I hope some of the more experienced server admins can answer with regards to setting up a new colo box.
A quick background, we started our site out on a shared server and moved to semi-dedicated when we launched our sister site earlier this year. It's met our needs up to this point.
Our application architecture is currently based on a custom PHP built content management system. We're migrating this platform to a Java (JSP) based architecture using Struts 2 and Hibernate, scheduled to go live later this year. We've got quite a few reasons for this, familiarity with the language for our team, ease of maintenence (the system has grown very large in terms of code), and a few other key features that are much easier to do in a Java/JSP environment over PHP (multi-threading, parallel socket communication, etc).
We've decided we're going to co-locate a server, we're looking at purchasing a 1U rackmount system. We're on a very tight budget, and would like to pick up a second-hand server. We'll be running Windows Server 2003 as the OS, as nobody on our side has the knowledge to manage a Linux Web Server, and we're all developers familiar with the Windows platform. We also already have a Windows 2003 Standard license from an old internal test server that would work perfectly.
The server will be running the following:
-Windows Server 2003
-Jetty Servlet Container
-Hosting two Struts 2 Based Web Applications (one per domain)
-IMAP (Mercury32) - 10 users, minimal e-mail traffic
-SMTP (TBD)
-MySQL Server
-FTP (FileZilla Server) - No public access
My question is, based on your experience, what would you recommend as the minimum hardware we should be using for such a setup? Assume the webapps receive medium traffic (50K pageviews/day each), and are well-designed and fairly lightweight.
We're currently looking at an older system with the following specs.
HP DL360 G3 1U Server
Dual Xeon 3.06Ghz (w/512K Cache)
2GB RAM
Redundant Power
2x 36GB SCSI U320
Do you think this system would meet our requirements? Given the age of the Xeon processors and the vast range of models, I'm having a really hard time figuring our how this would compare to a more modern system. I'm assuming, based on the reviews, the G3 series was released in 2002 or 2003?
Does anybody know of a datacenter somewhere in Massachusetts that would allow me to colo a tower server along with a sonicwall SSLVPN and firewall? I need maybe 1,000 - 2,000GB/month transfer on a 10mbit port. Ideally under $100/month.
View 6 Replies View RelatedI live in Philadelphia, and I'm looking to find a good colocation nearby. I just have one 2U server right now that doesn't use too much bandwidth (webserver with one site), but my needs will increase over time.
401 Broad St. has the main colocation companies for the city, but most only deal in full cabinets. quonix.net and dca.net are a couple places I've found that would take just one server and charge accordingly.
I have a website and I need to run a colocation server but coudnt find anywebsite to buy servers. Do anyone know anygood website where I can buy powerfull servers with resonable price?
View 14 Replies View RelatedIn me effort to go colo I have been studying as best I can different server builds. Here is some information you may want to know or be able to help me and others with.
Quest: Build a server designed for serving html and other uses as a webserver (mail, database, etc). Limux operating System
Chipset- Although I found a lot of good and bad motherboards, I could find no information regarding chipsets and Linux. maybe it does not matter, who knows? Also..upgrading motherboard and chipset AFTER server is up and running seems like a challenge.
Harddrives- It would seem best to get a harddrive made for a 24/7 uptime. Not ALL drives are like this. Seemingly, unconfirmed, SCSI drives are for this pupose. However, Western Digital has made some 'RE' drives that are to be up 24/7 with no issues.
Note: 7200+ rpm drives appear to fail more often and some suggest a more stable 5400rpm.
Built in NIC vs Adding one- Very little could be found on this, but would assume a much better one should be bought and not use an onboard one. Some onboards can have probelm with some linux distros too. I would buy one and add it...a good one.
CPU- very little talk was available on linux's use of multiple CPUs. Very little talk was available on speed and use of multiple versus single cpu units. Example- how would a single cpu of 3ghz do against 2 CPUs of 1.8ghz.
Having two CPUs does allow for a server to utilize different CPUs for different processes, so if one is busy, the other can be used.
No information was really available on the difference..or what you should buy for the actual CPUs.
RAM- Buttloads of ram out there. No info on what works best with linux, which works best for a server, or what kind would work best for a server.
Motherboard- many are available and many suggest different kinds, but no definitive reasons have been given. No idea which would be best for a linux web server.
Control panel versus no control panel - after a little learning curve it would appear a non control panel is easy to use for a single user server. Control panels are buggy, have many issues, but do allow multi user systems and shared servers to be easily used. Some seem very limited in the updated versions of software. I will be going with fedora, but no control panel. The overhead is not something I want to deal with..or the bugs, or the old software, of the issues of upgrading. Ensim and cpanel seem most used and professionally serviced.
Raid- Just working on this one. No real info as to the best type of raid card for a linux webserver. Raid 1 is a mirror system i believe that allows you to have two drives where one is a ghost of another (sort of)? Do not know how much this slows the system or the drives down, but a mirror would be best in the case of a failure.
Do not know what happens when there is a failure (will system freeze, ignore it, hang?)
Partition of drives: It would seem that putting the linux system on one aprtition, the /home directory on another, and perhaps the mail directory on another is a way to make it easier to deal with certain issues. If you need to compile, reinstall, or whatever with linux and all your data is not on the partition, it becomes easier. If a partition gets screwed, the data is spread out, so much can not be destroyed. The actual amounts for the partitions are not evident in my research.
ANyway, that is a synopsis of info I have been perusing these last few days. Usually you can only find someone talking about something they use and like, but no real details to balance out why something else will not be as good.
One other note: Distros of llinux are all over the place. But for a webserver I do not think any distro is really needed. Perhaps just building your own kernel would be good (and a great learning experience)...but that remains to be seen.
I will be posting a web page in the coming weeks with a detail of how I built, where i bought, and how I installed, my new server here.
i would like to know if you can suggest me a good datacenter to buy and colocate servers.
I need EU bandwidth, possibly Germany or Notherlands.
Do you have any suggestions?
I could only find 1 "big" provider on the offers section.
What is the difference between Dedicated Virtual vs Regular Dedicated Server?
Also what are the pros and cons of going with Virtual?
I'm colo'ing my first server, and I'm a little nervous about sending my server to the mainland (I'm in Hawaii) for colo. I was looking at Pacific Rack, and also at iWeb. Can anybody comment on these or recommend anybody else? I just need very basic 1U colo.
Dependability and low ping times from Hawaii are my main priorities. Preferably something that Time Warner is tied into since most Hawaii residents use Road Runner cable modems.
I'm going to be running a dedicated zimbra server.
We based in Canada. Do we have to pay taxes duties when sending a server out to US for colocation?
Is there a good dedicated server company that has fast guaranteed turn ups, allows colocation, a private network, and is outside the midwest?
I want to colo my database server(s), firewalls, and switches but then use dedicated servers as web servers. Hopefully allowing me to add web servers very quickly as needed (someone getting /.'d). I would want the webservers on a private network only.
Does anyone offer any type of service like this?
to move from shared windows hosting to Dedicated windows hosting. This will be our first dedicated server and experience with dealing it too.
Someone suggested me Rackspace. But they were charging premium rates 440 USD for entry level windows server.
I am currently using a shared hosting but due to increasing traffic and server load my existing host is not able to provide reliable services and I am planning to upgrade my hosting service.
While I was searching for Dedicated Servers, I learnt about Virtual Dedicated Servers but I am not very sure about their reliability? Are Virtual Dedicated Servers useful? My website current serves over 2500-3000 visitors a day resulting in 30,000 pageviews and I am expecting the traffic to grow by atleast 2 folds in the next few months as I start some PPC campaigns and Email Marketing for my website. Can a Virtual Dedicated Server cater such needs assuming my website to be more of less dynamic website written in php?
I have Plesk 11.5 (service provider mode) on a Windows 2008 server IIS7.Most of my sites are developed in .asp and therefore i use a custom 500-100.asp error page that check s the IP of the visitor then displays either a friendly error, or if its my IP a full error of what has happened (it also emails me the error). This allows me to debug pages easily whilst developing and to keep an eye on anyone trying SQL Injection hacks on my sites (as the error and email also have session variables and IP address).I dont have root access to the server as it is a Webfusion dedicated server.I have following the Plesk documentation -
1) Switch on custom errors for the subscription
2) Look in virtual directories and navigate to error documents
3) Find the error in question (500:100) and change it to point at either a file or URL
FILE - I had the data centre add in the 500-100.asp error page in to the virtual template so that my page is available in the list of virtual files - this didn't work but that maybe because its not a static page??
URL - when i add the path it says its incorrect, if i add a fully qualified address, it accepts it but it doesn't work.give me a specific example of the URL that can be entered relative to the root as the format in the documentation isn't accepted. The last step is to restart IIS which is also an issue as i cant seem to do this from the Plesk panel..It is as if it isn't catching the 500:100 error, and only catching the general 500 error??
What is the difference between a virtual private server and a dedicated server?
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My streamers will be using my server aswell, On weekends we will be running 3-4 streams at a time, weekdays 1-2 at a time.
Spreading all the streams out, at anyone time we will have 300 viewers.
I need to know your advice on this before i go spending money.
How do i convert my dedi into a flash media server, i need red5 or something, thats all i know so far. My streamers wil be streaming to server with FME, And i also want it coded so that my streams can only be embedded on my site.
Basically i dont have a clue where to start, how long would it take me to set up etc....
In addition, what kind of server do i need, windows / linux / traffic / burstable / standard etc..
I'm expected to have around 1000-1500 users at a time after my ad compaign for my site.
currently, my setup is as follows:
VPS in UK
guaranteed memory: 256 burstable : 512
disk: 20GB
traffic: 200GB per month
price : 15 dollars a month
I would like to upgrade to :
guaranteed memory: 1GB
which is better ? to go with VPS ? or dedicated server ? which provider do u recommend ? how much am I expected to pay for my required setup ? what about CPU ?
Is it possible to upgrade a kernel on a dedicated server? I have a dedicated at Server.lu.
I opened a ticket with them, it was open for about a month with no reply.
How can I tell if GRUB or LILO is on the server somewhere?
I'd like to know, how do you backup a cPanel dedicated server to a remote FTP server? WHM's backup only allows you to backup the client's accounts, but not the cPanel settings, or the stuff in /etc?
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It's already up and running with static IP address, however hosting offers a "Static IP Address", which doesn't really make sense, cause I already have one?
Other thing is domain name. Current domain name is registered with a different company and we don't really want to transfer it from that company. Can I get away with importing a domain name and changing MX records in the domain control panel?
Last thing is an email server. What do I need to set up an Email Server? I have a domain name with few POP3 email addresses. I thought about using hMail server for windows. What else do I need to do, pay for?
i want to know what is the difference between dedicated server and shared server. I was relaly confused in these services. Couls any one please let me know in detail about these servers?. I will be choosing one of these service.
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