Unlimited Web Hosting, What's Next
Oct 31, 2008
the industry is back to where it was about 8 years ago, when only a few companies offering unlimited were labeled as "scam". Now 8 years down the road, most of the large companies offering unlimited everything, but everyone is ok with it.
What is next? How will the competition go on?
Examples:
Unlimited + Free 2nd Unlimited account.
Unlimited + Unlimited = Unlimited!!
Unlimited + FREE CASH!
How low can these companies go? How will they keep up the competition since there is no more disk space or bandwidth left to compete on. Maybe start free hosting? Start giving out cash to sign up?
If you look at one of those Top 10 hosting web sites, you will see all the companies listed now offer unlimited everything, just different pricing structure. Since they all offer the same thing, wouldn't the person looking just click on the lowest price? Since most people aren't aware of overselling or the unlimited truth, they see it as something that they will never run out of. Average consumer is not aware of these marketing gimmicks.
Honestly if my cell phone provider was offering unlimited minutes for $45 per month, and another one was offering $100 for 1000 minutes my choice would be unlimited. I would even put up with a little bit of crap from the support for $45 unlimited talk time, and a few service outages.
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May 13, 2008
i want to start an adult site, can someone please recommend me a good host?
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Apr 2, 2009
This question gets asked a lot in our Helpdesk and I figured I would post our knowledgebase article here to help anyone else wondering the Pros and Cons of Unlimited Domain Shared Hosting vs. Reseller Hosting. If anyone has anything else to add, I appreciate any feedback on how we can improve our KB article.
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Given the present state of shared hosting, many clients may ask "Why would I need a Reseller account if I can host unlimited Addon and Parked domains within a single shared hosting account?". There is certainly enough Disk Space and Bandwidth provided in many of today's hosting packages, so why bother to purchase a Reseller account?
Many don't realize the drawbacks of hosting large numbers of domains within a single hosting account until they've already packed tens of them onto a single package.
So how do you know whether a Reseller account or Shared Hosting account is right for you? The answer is in how you plan to provide access to others and how "mission-critical" the sites are. You should consider the following factors when deciding on hosting a large number of domains:
1. Who will be managing these sites?
2. How important is site security between sites?
3. Will these domains need dedicated SSLs?
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
In a nutshell, Reseller plans are for those who wish to host websites for other sub-clients and a shared hosting package is for a single individual managing multiple personal domains. We'll go over the 4 points above in greater detail.
1. Who will be managing these site?
If you personally own multiple domains and wish to host them within the same hosting space, you can easily do so with an Addon or Parked domain. An addon domain will allow you to host a new domain within a subdirectory of your hosting space. A parked domain will allow you to have multiple domain names point to the same content. Since addon domains reside within the same user space as your main domain, you can manage all of your domains with a single login. You can see the problem if you want to provide another user with access. Since all accounts are managed with a single set of login credentials, if you give another user access to their addon domain you are also giving them access to your main domain. If you have vital information stored on your main domain and you are hosting another domain as an addon domain for someone else, you cannot provide them access to their hosting without compromising the integrity of your main domain.
When hosting sites as a Reseller, your clients in turn will want access to their account and will want exclusive rights to their disk space and server resources. With a Reseller account, each sub-account you create gets its own username, password, and isolated user space on the server. Individual clients of yours have access to their user space and their user space alone. In addition to the isolation with regards to access concerns, each account also gets their own cPanel access. All of the same great features that you use to manage your sites can also be given to your clients. Next time client Y wants to add an email account, you don't have to do it for them for fear of giving them access to your cPanel, you can simply give them their login details and they can manage their own email accounts.
2. How important is site security between sites?
This is along the same lines as point 1. This is not necessarily related to who you are hosting for, but what content you are hosting. Imagine that you are a webmaster and you are hosting your own personal site-in-a-box community forums (such as PHPBB or vBulliten) on your main domain and a company website for a paying client on an addon domain. It is not uncommon for popular scripts to have security flaws in older versions. Script authors will often update security flaws in later versions of their software. For this reason, it is very important to keep scripts up to date on your site. But let's assume you forget to update your scripts for a couple of months and an unscrupulous individual takes advantage of a well known security hole. Using this exploit, they gain access to your forums and any subdirectories. Since you are hosting another domain as an addon, they now have access to this domain's content as well. A site defacement on this company's site may not bode well for you when they are considering you for web master services in the future.
If these two domains had been separate into two individual users (i.e. two subaccounts created through a Reseller), their content would've been inherently isolated server side by Linux's user management. Sure, your forums still would've been affected by the security hole, but the break-in would've been isolated to your site alone.
Going back to our example, let's say that instead of a corporate website as an addon domain you are hosting an image gallery site for all of your cats. In this case, it may not be a big deal if a compromise in your main domain spreads to your addon domain. After all, they are both owned by you and you're only losing some time and effort to restore these sites from your local backups (which I'm sure you've actively maintained ). But then again, you are losing time and time is money. If these sites had been separated into individual users, again, you'd only have to restore one site's content.
The idea here is isolation. Reseller plans provide you with the peace of mind to know that if one of your users doesn't keep up with their site's content as actively as they should, their actions won't negatively impact the content hosted on other domains. If you and those you host in your addons are diligent webmasters, maybe this point won't have much bearing on your decision. Only you can say for sure.
3. Will these domains need SSLs?
As of this writing, SSL certificates must have a dedicated IP address to be installed. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same shared hosting package, you can still install an SSL (or purchase a dedicated IP address and install one) but you are limited to exactly one SSL on your account. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same package (and consequently the same IP), you must choose which domains gets to have the dedicated SSL.
Sub accounts of Resellers can each be placed onto separate IP addresses and, as a result, can each have their own dedicated SSL installed.
Of course, both shared accounts and Resellers' sub accounts can use the server's shared SSL free of charge. However, some clients prefer to see their domain in the URL bar when they visit https.
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
We've already established that disk space and bandwidth will be no problem. But what about CPU, RAM, and MySQL resources?
It's important to be aware of the resource needs of your website. As administrators, we have to make sure all users "play nice" on the server. We can't have user X eating all of the CPU cycles computing pi to the trillionth decimal place while you are trying to serve web pages to your loyal visitors. We have to monitor the actions of all of our users and in the event someone is stepping beyond the bounds of acceptable resource consumption, we have to take action. In most cases, this entails disabling the abusive script, but in extreme cases we have to suspend the abusive user account to prevent other domains from encountering performance degradation on their sites.
If you are hosting 100 domains as addon domains, all serving nothing but static HTML pages, maybe you will stay off the radar.
But considering most sites are more complicated than static HTML, you may want to be aware of how many sites you host as addons and what content they serve. If you're hosting the latest and greatest Joomla modules, with up to date news feeds, integrated forums modules, polls, blog posts, etc your site can certainly require a degree of CPU to serve your pages. Now imagine you have 5 or 10 of these sites all hosted as addon domains. The resources these sites need to generate their content can quickly add up and before you know it you've got a friendly email from Acenet, Inc. in your inbox wondering why your user is consuming 2 of the 8 CPU cores on the server. That may be an exaggeration, but you get the idea. In the event your resource usage becomes so excessive that we have to suspend your user, now all of your sites are down instead of whichever one may be the direct cause of the spike in CPU, RAM, or MySQL consumption.
If each of these had been separate Reseller accounts, the offending account could've been suspended temporarily while we work through the cause, leaving the rest of your domains live and kicking.
The conclusion here is that you need to be aware of the needs of your sites in a general sense. Hosting unlimited domains within a shared hosting space is certainly a nice feature. For those webmasters who have multiple presences on the web, it's very convenient to be able to manage all of their personal domains from a single control panel. For those entrepreneurs who are hosting multiple domains for other individuals, the features and security associated with a Reseller plan and the inherent isolation of Linux users is a must have.
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Jan 31, 2009
I still doubt if they are really give their clients with unlimited disk space, unlimited data transfers and others something unlimited their offers. Please guys help me. Make a screen shoot from your cPanel if you have web hosting account from web host providers that offers unlimited services (hostmonster,hostgator,webhostingpad,lunarpages,bluehost, ect)
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May 20, 2009
With everyone doing unlimited hosting (except us probably). Would anyone be interested in Unlimited˛ hosting? Unlimited space to the ˛ power?
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Jun 7, 2008
Been reading in and comparing alot of different hosting companies during the last couple of days. One company has now got my attentioned a little more compared to many others and that is MM Hosting.
Been googeling and searching around alot to get some existing custommer feedback. Whats interessting is that I can't find much about it, nor bad, nor good. I found mostly adds etc and various "review sites".
So I hope to find some active custommers in here.
can you give me some feedback please? In this thread or please PM me.
I am located in europe myself so I am cusrious about speedrates etc.
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Mar 14, 2009
is UNLIMITED hosting reality?
for sure no, but how much is the limit?
till when they allow you to host your website?
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Aug 17, 2009
I registered and hosted two domains, one for my girlfriend and one for me.
I used GoDaddy, paying around $130 all together at a rate of $5 monthly.
Doing research tonight for a new domain I want to host, I come across "HostGator" which offers Unlimited Domain Hosting. (At around $7 a month)
Does this mean, if I am not mistaken, I could have payed $84 and placed my girlfriend's and my domain on the same hosting server, thus using the same bandwidth and storage space, thus saving a bit of money?
Assuming I am correct up until now, what happens if I get a hosting package that has unlimited storage space, unlimited bandwidth, and unlimited domain hosting? That means the only additional cost I'd be paying for hosting a new site would be a basic $10 per year domain registration cost?
I am quite ambitious and have plans for about 3 new domain projects, and I figured I would have to purchase a new hosting account of $60+ yearly for each one. If I could combine these into one hosting account, it would save a lot of money and grief.
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Feb 27, 2009
A while back I had a hosting service prepaid for 2 years...awful.
They say I can have unlimited domain hosting. But it turned out I can have subdomains that's what they meant. I think its false advertising.
Right now I have a cheap host for $1/month reseller, promise of unlimited domains/bandwidth etc.,
How is it possible to host unlimited domains? Or is this a concept used by everyone to mean unlimited "subdomains"?
how this work? Because I am trying to save cost on hosting and have a reliable service provider. Is it possible in CPanel?
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I have about 14 domains I'd like to host on one server. They combined use about 50gb of bandwidth, 15,000-20,000 unique visitors per month. About 3-4,000 page impressions per day.
I currently use hostmonster.com and their uptime sucks, and I keep getting suspended for using to much cpu quota.
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Oct 18, 2008
Does anyone know of a webhost that will allow proxy hosting and supports unlimited domains?
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Mar 16, 2009
HostGator is offering unlimited disk space, bandwidth and domains in shared hosting BABY Package.
Does it mean i can host 10 domains in baby plan and each site is eating + 200gb per month.
Does 10 Domains hosting in this account mean that they will host using addon technology?
What role dedicate IP will play for my websites?
If my domain registrar is different but my host is hostgator then will this plan will work for me or do i need to transfer all the 10 domains to hostgator?
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i have a server for hosting wibsites, with 1000 mbp connection speed, but with 2000 gb limited bandwidth.
i need more bandwidth , so i have 2 options: 1000 gb cost 100$
or unlimited bandwidth with 10mbp connection speed.
is 10mbp enough for this server ( it contains about 200 website )?
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an recommendation on a shared hosting reseller with unlimited bandwidth(or atleast about 1500gb) and about 60-70gb harddrive? And preferably have servers in the US and europe, so i can pick one in usa and 1 in europe.
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which webhosts offers "real" unlimited shared or dedicated hosting? alot of companies say unlimited but in their terms it says they'll suspend your account if you exceed reasonable use and they don't tell you what this is.
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Aug 24, 2008
do Dedicated Server hosting plans always allow for unlimited domains?"
It would be great if it was so, but I have NO idea if it is that way. My common sense says "of course stupid, you have the whole box for yourself", but my guts tell me I should know better before assuming it.
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I was on RackForce and their basis VPS package dds200-L can host 100 domain names on Plesk and unlimited domain names on WHM/Cpanel.
On 1and1 it didn't say if Plesk support 100 or unlimited domain names. My question is, do we always have the liberty to host unlimited domain names on our PVS?
Can anyone recommend a good VPS hosting company?
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Jun 29, 2008
my website hosted at reliablesite.net is down!
and I can't access [url]
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Dec 1, 2007
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futurehosting.biz really appealed to me but I was wondering if there was anything better, in terms of storage, bandwidth and RAM (also CPU, i dont know how much futurehosting give).
I would prefer if they had some kind of 24/7 live chat.
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willing to find a cheap vps hosting provider and when l check some of the threats here , l m meeting new terms.
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I have been with Blue Virtual (bluevirtual.com) for many years, since the Communitech days. However, the service these past few weeks has gone downhill big time.
The BV forums are dead, the webhosting is up and down like a yoyo, mail is intermittent.
Not just me but fellow users are experiencing the same.
Support tickets are going unanswered (accounts & tech. support).
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All my sites are down raised tickets for the last 2 days still no answers
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what people think about jaguarpc I haven't been there too long yet I find the servers some what slow... or I should say VPS's there customer service is good yet I found knownhost to be better performance wise.. I just want to know what others think
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1)When your looking for a colocation facility what things are most important to you?
2)Have you ever wished that datacenters offered something outside the normal things that most providers do.
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i don't get why people can have more than one static ip...wouldn't you only need one?
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I have never understand this? Honestly, what is the point if they all point to one web server? I mean if the web server fails it doesnt do any good if you have 10 DNS servers. The only time it makes sense to me to run multiple DNS servers is if your DNS server is a piece of junk, and always goes down, which honestly doesnt happen that much.
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