Dummy Question: Do Dedicated Server Hosting Plans Always Allow For Unlimited Domains
Aug 24, 2008
do Dedicated Server hosting plans always allow for unlimited domains?"
It would be great if it was so, but I have NO idea if it is that way. My common sense says "of course stupid, you have the whole box for yourself", but my guts tell me I should know better before assuming it.
I registered and hosted two domains, one for my girlfriend and one for me.
I used GoDaddy, paying around $130 all together at a rate of $5 monthly.
Doing research tonight for a new domain I want to host, I come across "HostGator" which offers Unlimited Domain Hosting. (At around $7 a month)
Does this mean, if I am not mistaken, I could have payed $84 and placed my girlfriend's and my domain on the same hosting server, thus using the same bandwidth and storage space, thus saving a bit of money?
Assuming I am correct up until now, what happens if I get a hosting package that has unlimited storage space, unlimited bandwidth, and unlimited domain hosting? That means the only additional cost I'd be paying for hosting a new site would be a basic $10 per year domain registration cost?
I am quite ambitious and have plans for about 3 new domain projects, and I figured I would have to purchase a new hosting account of $60+ yearly for each one. If I could combine these into one hosting account, it would save a lot of money and grief.
I'm new to Private Virtual Server and the package offered by different company are quite confusing.
I was on RackForce and their basis VPS package dds200-L can host 100 domain names on Plesk and unlimited domain names on WHM/Cpanel.
On 1and1 it didn't say if Plesk support 100 or unlimited domain names. My question is, do we always have the liberty to host unlimited domain names on our PVS?
I have about 14 domains I'd like to host on one server. They combined use about 50gb of bandwidth, 15,000-20,000 unique visitors per month. About 3-4,000 page impressions per day.
I currently use hostmonster.com and their uptime sucks, and I keep getting suspended for using to much cpu quota.
This question gets asked a lot in our Helpdesk and I figured I would post our knowledgebase article here to help anyone else wondering the Pros and Cons of Unlimited Domain Shared Hosting vs. Reseller Hosting. If anyone has anything else to add, I appreciate any feedback on how we can improve our KB article.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Given the present state of shared hosting, many clients may ask "Why would I need a Reseller account if I can host unlimited Addon and Parked domains within a single shared hosting account?". There is certainly enough Disk Space and Bandwidth provided in many of today's hosting packages, so why bother to purchase a Reseller account?
Many don't realize the drawbacks of hosting large numbers of domains within a single hosting account until they've already packed tens of them onto a single package.
So how do you know whether a Reseller account or Shared Hosting account is right for you? The answer is in how you plan to provide access to others and how "mission-critical" the sites are. You should consider the following factors when deciding on hosting a large number of domains:
1. Who will be managing these sites?
2. How important is site security between sites?
3. Will these domains need dedicated SSLs?
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
In a nutshell, Reseller plans are for those who wish to host websites for other sub-clients and a shared hosting package is for a single individual managing multiple personal domains. We'll go over the 4 points above in greater detail.
1. Who will be managing these site?
If you personally own multiple domains and wish to host them within the same hosting space, you can easily do so with an Addon or Parked domain. An addon domain will allow you to host a new domain within a subdirectory of your hosting space. A parked domain will allow you to have multiple domain names point to the same content. Since addon domains reside within the same user space as your main domain, you can manage all of your domains with a single login. You can see the problem if you want to provide another user with access. Since all accounts are managed with a single set of login credentials, if you give another user access to their addon domain you are also giving them access to your main domain. If you have vital information stored on your main domain and you are hosting another domain as an addon domain for someone else, you cannot provide them access to their hosting without compromising the integrity of your main domain.
When hosting sites as a Reseller, your clients in turn will want access to their account and will want exclusive rights to their disk space and server resources. With a Reseller account, each sub-account you create gets its own username, password, and isolated user space on the server. Individual clients of yours have access to their user space and their user space alone. In addition to the isolation with regards to access concerns, each account also gets their own cPanel access. All of the same great features that you use to manage your sites can also be given to your clients. Next time client Y wants to add an email account, you don't have to do it for them for fear of giving them access to your cPanel, you can simply give them their login details and they can manage their own email accounts.
2. How important is site security between sites?
This is along the same lines as point 1. This is not necessarily related to who you are hosting for, but what content you are hosting. Imagine that you are a webmaster and you are hosting your own personal site-in-a-box community forums (such as PHPBB or vBulliten) on your main domain and a company website for a paying client on an addon domain. It is not uncommon for popular scripts to have security flaws in older versions. Script authors will often update security flaws in later versions of their software. For this reason, it is very important to keep scripts up to date on your site. But let's assume you forget to update your scripts for a couple of months and an unscrupulous individual takes advantage of a well known security hole. Using this exploit, they gain access to your forums and any subdirectories. Since you are hosting another domain as an addon, they now have access to this domain's content as well. A site defacement on this company's site may not bode well for you when they are considering you for web master services in the future.
If these two domains had been separate into two individual users (i.e. two subaccounts created through a Reseller), their content would've been inherently isolated server side by Linux's user management. Sure, your forums still would've been affected by the security hole, but the break-in would've been isolated to your site alone.
Going back to our example, let's say that instead of a corporate website as an addon domain you are hosting an image gallery site for all of your cats. In this case, it may not be a big deal if a compromise in your main domain spreads to your addon domain. After all, they are both owned by you and you're only losing some time and effort to restore these sites from your local backups (which I'm sure you've actively maintained ). But then again, you are losing time and time is money. If these sites had been separated into individual users, again, you'd only have to restore one site's content.
The idea here is isolation. Reseller plans provide you with the peace of mind to know that if one of your users doesn't keep up with their site's content as actively as they should, their actions won't negatively impact the content hosted on other domains. If you and those you host in your addons are diligent webmasters, maybe this point won't have much bearing on your decision. Only you can say for sure.
3. Will these domains need SSLs?
As of this writing, SSL certificates must have a dedicated IP address to be installed. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same shared hosting package, you can still install an SSL (or purchase a dedicated IP address and install one) but you are limited to exactly one SSL on your account. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same package (and consequently the same IP), you must choose which domains gets to have the dedicated SSL.
Sub accounts of Resellers can each be placed onto separate IP addresses and, as a result, can each have their own dedicated SSL installed.
Of course, both shared accounts and Resellers' sub accounts can use the server's shared SSL free of charge. However, some clients prefer to see their domain in the URL bar when they visit https.
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
We've already established that disk space and bandwidth will be no problem. But what about CPU, RAM, and MySQL resources?
It's important to be aware of the resource needs of your website. As administrators, we have to make sure all users "play nice" on the server. We can't have user X eating all of the CPU cycles computing pi to the trillionth decimal place while you are trying to serve web pages to your loyal visitors. We have to monitor the actions of all of our users and in the event someone is stepping beyond the bounds of acceptable resource consumption, we have to take action. In most cases, this entails disabling the abusive script, but in extreme cases we have to suspend the abusive user account to prevent other domains from encountering performance degradation on their sites.
If you are hosting 100 domains as addon domains, all serving nothing but static HTML pages, maybe you will stay off the radar.
But considering most sites are more complicated than static HTML, you may want to be aware of how many sites you host as addons and what content they serve. If you're hosting the latest and greatest Joomla modules, with up to date news feeds, integrated forums modules, polls, blog posts, etc your site can certainly require a degree of CPU to serve your pages. Now imagine you have 5 or 10 of these sites all hosted as addon domains. The resources these sites need to generate their content can quickly add up and before you know it you've got a friendly email from Acenet, Inc. in your inbox wondering why your user is consuming 2 of the 8 CPU cores on the server. That may be an exaggeration, but you get the idea. In the event your resource usage becomes so excessive that we have to suspend your user, now all of your sites are down instead of whichever one may be the direct cause of the spike in CPU, RAM, or MySQL consumption.
If each of these had been separate Reseller accounts, the offending account could've been suspended temporarily while we work through the cause, leaving the rest of your domains live and kicking.
The conclusion here is that you need to be aware of the needs of your sites in a general sense. Hosting unlimited domains within a shared hosting space is certainly a nice feature. For those webmasters who have multiple presences on the web, it's very convenient to be able to manage all of their personal domains from a single control panel. For those entrepreneurs who are hosting multiple domains for other individuals, the features and security associated with a Reseller plan and the inherent isolation of Linux users is a must have. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From reading a good lot of posts here, I can see that HostGator seems to be a good company and that many have a good feedback to give about it. I've also been reading that you should avoid overselling, though understand that some companies, even though they offer "Unlimited space and bandwidth", they can manage it well. I guess HostGator falls in that category too. My questions here:
1) So what are the conditions under which it is okay to go for a company that offers unlimited space and bandwidth? (Expecting answers like 'if you just have a few blogs and don't require...')
I have read (here and elsewhere) that for most people's requirements, a shared web hosting would do. However, for someone a with a little more web baggage (individuals, not businesses), it is generally advised that they look at semi-dedicated hosting plans.
2) Based on the above quoted, objectively, what are the things that you should look at (like traffic per day etc) and what should be their values (for e.g. like 15000 uniques per day etc) while considering moving from sharing to semi-dedicated plans? I think some of them are the following, can you give me approximate values for these when I should consider the move?
a) Traffic b) Number of active websites c) Sites with heavy resource usage. (Can you give me some examples of this?) d)...
My current host has gone the tubes as far as reliability so I'm looking for a new one. I need PHP/MySQL, CPanel, 1 GB of space should do for now and bandwidth will easily be met. I also want unlimited domains (add-on is fine).
which webhosts offers "real" unlimited shared or dedicated hosting? alot of companies say unlimited but in their terms it says they'll suspend your account if you exceed reasonable use and they don't tell you what this is.
Is it actually possible to find Windows dedicated server with unlimited traffic (1Gb Pipe)and reliable 24/7 technical support? Cause I have searched and found out that if the traffic is unlimited the pipe is too small, and if the pipe is big enough traffic is limited and additional one costs a fortune.
I've been seeing shared plans with like 200GB space, 1000GB+ bandwidth for like $30.
Then the same company Offers dedicated servers for like $100.
Now 200GB and 1000+gb is more than the usual dedicated. So if your the host, why would anyne buy you dedicated over your shared. Your pretty much offering a dedicated at a shared price.
I need a VPS with Litespeed, WHM/cPanel, about 2GB of space and unlimited domains. I'm looking for speed and security, not price. Eventually I'd like to upgrade to a dedicated server. Here's what I'm looking for and why:
Located near multiple major networks: Our current host has been unavailable from certain parts of the Internet. Anonymous proxy shows the site isn't dead, just not responding to my location. The response time from ippatrol.co.uk is about 1.5 seconds. That's about average, right?
Litespeed: I run WPMU (Wordpress Multi-User) with many add-on domains pointing to a single installation. Problem with WPMU is it makes extensive use of .htaccess. All user-uploaded files are actually parsed through a php script. That's why I'd prefer litespeed's .htaccess handling.
WHM/cPanel: I don't want to be stuck with a host if they suddenly stop performing. I've heard horror stories about large cPanel transfers, so I'm planning to split this into 3-5 cPanel accounts. Also I want to download my own backups, and don't want to try a 1GB backup. I'm not planning on doing reselling.
2GB of space: I've got MANY small blogs, but they're all low-traffic. The 2GB is for expansion purposes, and so I can do backups without overage. I should never hit this limit.
Unlimited addon domain. Unlimited Mysql databases. No setup fees. About 600Mb webspase About 2000-3000 trafic Cheap as posible If posible (but not necesary) multiple IP's. Payment from PayPal but if it's necesarry then it's Moneybookers ok to. Prefer monthly payments.
How do you think specialized hosting plans (specially for blog, forum, gallery, etc) with less features for newbies in comparison with those mostly offered by huge hosting companies are worth selling?
I have noticed that most "reputable" VPS providers state both guaranteed and burst amount of RAM. However there also seems like plenty that only advertise burstable (looks better in the ad, I know) no matter how closely I look over the details.
For a Virtuozzo based VPS, is the guaranteed amount of ram something that must be specified? Or can it be configured for some sort of free for all burstable only accounts?
What I am wondering is if there is any good reason why a host would NOT tell me how much guaranteed RAM I would get?
I would like to hear some opinions about shared and VPS (VDS) hosting plans. Is it the new trend to get a VPS plan? What are the criteria for opting for VPS or shared plan? I don't know how to create a survay here,
I am currently a customer with Verio but I want to switch to a server that uses solar or wind energy. I am researching different companies and found a few that I am inquiring with Aiso, Sustainable Hosting, ThinkHost, and GreenestHost. I just wanted to find out if anyone else has used any of these companies or if anyone wants recommend any other green hosting plans out there.
subdomains on my dedicated server with co.il endings (israeli) dont work though with com domains they do work i anybody has a clue for fixing this? maybe its DNS directing problems.
Google App Engine offers free quotas of 1 GB outbound traffic per day and 6.5 CPU-hours (based on a 1.2 GHz Intel x86 processor) per day.
How do those free quotas compare to web hosting plans? For example, the traffic supported by the free quotas -- is that generally higher or less than the traffic supported by a typical $5/mo shared hosting account?
Above the free quotas, Google charges $0.12 per GB outgoing traffic, $0.10 per GB incoming traffic, $0.10 per CPU-hour, $0.15 per GB storage per month.
How do those numbers translate to normal web hosting plans? For example, the traffic that can be supported by a $40/mo VPS plan and $200/mo dedicated server plan, what would they cost on Google App Engine?
I know it depends on a lot of factors, but if anyone has any ballpark estimates or experiences they're willing to share I'd really appreciate it.
I'm trying to decide between App Engine and standard web hosting for a DB-backed Python site. The site will start small, but if the traffic grows I want to see which would be a better option long term.
I am the IT Director for a Furniture Manufacturing Company. I would like to establish relationships with Web Hosting Professionals that can provide me with multiple hosting accounts. Each must be on a different subnet. They do not require dedicated IP's. These accounts will be used to back link to a master domain. I can assure you that there will be no spamming or other unscrupulous activity on these accounts. Our company has been in business since 1862. I welcome this community to give me feedback thoughts ideas etc..
I have a dedicated server with few hundred domains on it.
How can I automate to view all traffic stats for all of the domains in the server. Currently, I have to manually view the popular domains one by one to see the stats.
Ideally, I want to view daily visitors/per domain by a email report. Is this possible via backend script/cron job?
I'm trying to find a script of some kind that determines which domains (from a list on the box) no longer point to the server. I have to believe this exists somewhere, but with searching I'm coming up empty.
Plesk and cPanel are my targets. I could build it myself with some time, but honestly, I'm one of those guys that doesn't like to reinvent the wheel when it's already out there...even if as a paid script.
sitea.com was pointing to /home/me/public_html/sitea
siteb.com was pointing to /home/me/public_html/siteb
On my new server, I have root permissions and used Plesk to create two domains sitea.com and siteb.com . Now plesk asks for a user to be created for each domain, so created usera and userb for sitea and siteb respectively.
Now as root on my server I created the dir /home/me/ and untarred the whole backup from old server to new server and I have dirs :
/home/me/public_html/sitea and /home/me/public_html/siteb
In apache configuration in file: httpd.include_sitea under dir /var/www/vhosts/sitea.com/conf/httpd.include
I changed the document root to /home/me/public_html/sitea
So I thought I am all set. But it does not work. When I try sitea.com in the browser it works but for all subdirs, for eg sitea.com/images it says Access denied.
This is because the dirs I created are owned by root.
So the owner of /home/me/public_html/sitea needs to be usera for this to work ?
Again for siteb to work I need to change the owner of /home/me/public_html/siteb to userb ?
This will be painful ? At least I should be able to change the owner of /home/me/public_html/ to one owner and ensure all sites under that work fine. How do I do that ?
I think the problem is clear by now. Its that I want all my sites to work off from .../public_html/ sub dirs.
Why can't we have Unlimited data on dedicated servers? People say data costs alot of money so dedicated server providers cannot offer unlimited monthly data, but why don't hosting companies lay their own underground/underwater cables coz then they cud charge what they want? Or talk to the current cable owners and see if they can get unlimited data deals.
When u think about it, when u get satellite tv, they don't say u can only watch 100 hours of tv per month, coz u can watch as much tv as u want,yet the satellite still uses data, so y is this not the same for dedi providers?
i search for a very cheap dedicated server, with unlimited bandwith, and from 50 to 100 mbit connection.
i dont care with OS, but i love Windows, so that would be nice.
i have seen OVH.com they have nice prices, but they dont want to sell to me, becuse they only want to sell to people from, poland, U.K., germany and france.
i come from denmark, so the hosting center shell sell to denmark.